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Posted: 12/3/2013 8:56:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AB5996]
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Yes I did. I zero at 100yds so, anything inside that I hold dead on. Impact was exactly where the dot was.
ETA: Didn't know I started a new page. 
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Posted: 12/3/2013 9:00:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AB5996]
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Doubletap.
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Posted: 12/5/2013 11:36:29 AM EDT
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After 7 deer the last two years we finally found a bullet inside a deer shot this past Sunday. I've posted before but using Privi 75 gr Match ammo. Shot two deer within 5 minutes of each other.
The first was a button buck(yeah I know lol) Shot at approx 80 yards. Hit on the left shoulder. He stumbled badly so a finishing neck shot was taken. The bullet appeared to be a complete pass through...that is until we began cleaning it. We found the bullet embedded in the opposite shoulder even though there was a huge exit wound. 
Here is what we found remaining of the bullet: 
Looks like much of the copper jacket remained however all the lead core was gone. I suspect it was most of the lead core that blasted it's way out of the opposite shoulder. The 2nd kill was a large Doe at approx 100 yards. The first shot was a clean miss. Stupid Doe just stood there. Blam! 2nd shot was a lower neck shot. She tumbled over a small ridge. When we got to her this is how she was laying: 
When you find them laying like this you know it was a DRT kill. Shots taken with 16 inch 1:7 twist AR using an Aimpoint CompM4 w/2 MOA dot. And again 75 gr Privi Match which are OTM bullets. Cleaning deer now and preparing for winter storm approaching. Ugh!! |
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Posted: 12/6/2013 11:11:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AB5996:
I came here to post about my experience with the Winchester 64 gr. PP today. I used a 14.5 " upper with an Aimpoint 4 MOA Micro. Heavy bodied 8 pt buck, full penetration found under the skin on the opposite side. I shot it from about 70 yds. He ran about 20 yds and fell dead. Both lungs and heart, placement is key. http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee203/ab5996/Arfcom/0FA776B5-3D70-4F15-897D-556725960F35.jpg http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee203/ab5996/Arfcom/89717D33-5D5D-4AC3-9BDC-A111631D650E_2.jpg http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee203/ab5996/Arfcom/AB7A5BC7-875D-4702-AD59-60C5CD385228.jpg This is exactly what I wanted to see. I will be using Winchester 64gr. PP this weekend as well. Looks like it did the job quite well on your deer! |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 12:05:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Winchester 64gr Power Points did the trick for me this weekend.
Deer number 1 dropped where she stood and deer number 2 only took about 2 steps before she hit the dirt as well. Definitely made me a believer this weekend about using a .223 for deer hunting. Removed all doubt for sure. Proper shot placement is still key! 
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USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 4:03:00 PM EDT
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Nice kills, and nice looking stick mcbob, what's up with the first deers rump?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 5:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot556:
Nice kills, and nice looking stick mcbob, what's up with the first deers rump? If you're talking about the bloody area, that would be the exit wound. The deer was quartering towards me and that was where the bullet exited. On the second deer, it was a perfect double lung and heart shot, but no exit would. Had it not been snowing and me freezing my ass off, I would have slowed down some when field dressing the deer, but I wanted to get done quickly and thus, no retrieved bullet. Thanks for the compliment on the rifle. This was the first one that I've built and I wanted to get it sighted in and make it prove itself with iron sights before I put a scope on it. Hopefully that will be the big addition for next year's deer season. |
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Posted: 12/28/2013 8:17:24 PM EDT
[#8]
I took my first-with-an-AR deer this week, a doe. 30 yards out and about 20 feet below. Quartering away, neck-shot 2 inches above the body, she fell right there and barely twitched. Bullet went through the spine and exited.     Next day from prior pics, she was by herself. (Passed on the larger ones above the day before, waiting for a possible buck.)  |
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Posted: 12/29/2013 9:35:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dirtymoe21]
[#9]
Got this Doe this morning, the shot was about 100 yards and ran 30 yards after she was hit. Ammo was handloaded 64 gr Gold Dot pulls, bullet took out both lungs and passed thru. This is the first Deer that I've taken with an AR and I'm thinking the old .270 will be collecting dust for now.
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USA
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Posted: 1/8/2014 12:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dirtymoe21:
Got this Doe this morning, the shot was about 100 yards and ran 30 yards after she was hit. Ammo was handloaded 64 gr Gold Dot pulls, bullet took out both lungs and passed thru. This is the first Deer that I've taken with an AR and I'm thinking the old .270 will be collecting dust for now.
<a href="http://s826.photobucket.com/user/DirtyMoe21/media/20131229_074430_zps3451989f.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz182/DirtyMoe21/20131229_074430_zps3451989f.jpg</a> I don't see an entry or exit wound. Am I missing somthing? How was the blood trail? |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 8:52:01 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot556:
I don't see an entry or exit wound. Am I missing somthing? How was the blood trail? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot556:
Originally Posted By Dirtymoe21:
Got this Doe this morning, the shot was about 100 yards and ran 30 yards after she was hit. Ammo was handloaded 64 gr Gold Dot pulls, bullet took out both lungs and passed thru. This is the first Deer that I've taken with an AR and I'm thinking the old .270 will be collecting dust for now.
<a href="http://s826.photobucket.com/user/DirtyMoe21/media/20131229_074430_zps3451989f.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz182/DirtyMoe21/20131229_074430_zps3451989f.jpg</a> I don't see an entry or exit wound. Am I missing somthing? How was the blood trail? Entry was hard to see, found it when we gutted her. Exit was about nickel sized, no blood trail. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2014 7:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By parshooter:
I took my first-with-an-AR deer this week, a doe. 30 yards out and about 20 feet below. Quartering away, neck-shot 2 inches above the body, she fell right there and barely twitched. Bullet went through the spine and exited. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/parshooter/fedepicf223f21_zps3ef34506.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/parshooter/IMG_2391_zpsa7c18656.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/parshooter/IMG_2385_zps7389eab2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/parshooter/IMG_2412_zps8939c69c.jpg Next day from prior pics, she was by herself. (Passed on the larger ones above the day before, waiting for a possible buck.) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v503/parshooter/IMG_2442_zps115c0bfa.jpg Good shooting. Is that the only deer you've shot with the Fusion's? If not how was the performance on the other ones? How's the accuracy with them? I'm using SSA 110 gr Pro Hunter's now and was thinking of trying them, as it seems SSA isn't producing them anymore. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/11/2014 7:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktex: Good shooting. Is that the only deer you've shot with the Fusion's? If not how was the performance on the other ones? How's the accuracy with them? I'm using SSA 110 gr Pro Hunter's now and was thinking of trying them, as it seems SSA isn't producing them anymore. Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glocktex: Originally Posted By parshooter: I took my first-with-an-AR deer this week, a doe. 30 yards out and about 20 feet below. Quartering away, neck-shot 2 inches above the body, she fell right there and barely twitched. Bullet went through the spine and exited. ... How's the accuracy with them? I'm using SSA 110 gr Pro Hunter's now and was thinking of trying them, as it seems SSA isn't producing them anymore. Thanks! Yea, this was the first I'd shot with the Fusions (first deer in many, many years actually). IIRC, others in this thread have used them with good results. You might want to scan back through it. Sorry, but hard to speak to their accuracy either, considering the range involved here. Prior to the hunt I was only able to fire a few rounds to check zero, at 100 yards. Those few rounds were grouped pretty well right at/in a 1" target square but conditions were poor for doing any serious testing. I don't know what size the group I shot actually measured. Figured if I could get within 2" of aiming point at 100 it would be OK and called it good at that point. |
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Posted: 1/12/2014 9:13:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Shot a large doe with Remington Hog Hammer 62 Grain (Barnes tax bullet).
Went through the deer so didn't see the bullet. Seemed to be a lot of damage to the opposite side shoulder. She fell instantly when shot but stumbled up and on for maybe 20 yards. I didn't wait to go recover her and she was dead when I found her in a couple of minutes. Was my first with an AR-15. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/17/2014 8:11:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Awesome kills.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2014 10:46:41 PM EDT
[#16]
We've been hunting with AR's for a while now. My son took his deer a few years ago with his 16" carbine. At the time I was loading Winchester Power Points. They performed well but accuracy was less than desirable, 2-3 MOA.
I then changed to 65 grain SGK with a healthy charge of VV N133. Accuracy went to .75" at 100 yards. But I didn't know how it would perform. Here's my son's deer. 30 yards, high double lung. Dropped in it's tracks. Winchester Power Point 
Here's on I took with his rifle. 65 Grain SGK. Superb performance. 100+ yards, quartering shot from the rear to the front. 
Here's the exit wound. 
The round traveled the entire cross section of the body, a good 14". He went about 20 yards. Entry wound is where the stain is at 10 o'clock and the exit wound at 4. The bruising looks to me like the round transmitted a great deal of energy. 
Personally, I think the .223 is a fine close range round for deer, maybe out to 150 yards. Very easy to load for, great bullet selection. But if I needed to stretch it out a bit, I would probably move the the 6.5 Grendel in this platform. Paul |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2014 11:44:48 AM EDT
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I was able to take 2 deer last season both over about 100 to 110 pounds with the Winchester 64 gr Power points. Dropped the first one faster than my brother-in-laws 30-06 and the second ran about 20 yds before he went belly up all our shots are within 100 yards.
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Posted: 5/6/2014 9:34:09 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mcbobs: Winchester 64gr Power Points did the trick for me this weekend. Deer number 1 dropped where she stood and deer number 2 only took about 2 steps before she hit the dirt as well. Definitely made me a believer this weekend about using a .223 for deer hunting. Removed all doubt for sure. Proper shot placement is still key! http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/Mcbobs/photo2-1.jpg http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/Mcbobs/photo1.jpg http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/Mcbobs/photo3.jpg |
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Posted: 5/6/2014 1:47:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: nf9648]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WVUARHunter:
I was able to take 2 deer last season both over about 100 to 110 pounds with the Winchester 64 gr Power points. Dropped the first one faster than my brother-in-laws 30-06 and the second ran about 20 yds before he went belly up all our shots are within 100 yards. The 64gr PP was my go to bullet for the longest, but because I shoot coyotes all year I switched to the 60gr ballistic tip from nosler to minimize the exit and save the pelts in the winter. This last year got me two deer, one accidentally with the 60gr nosler (thought i had a mag of PPs, didn't realize I had the noslers in until I cleared the gun) which ended up being a DRT from about 70 yards. |
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Posted: 5/29/2014 2:52:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Silver state armory GTG?
I read somewhere that these are a good performing round for white tail. Anyone have any experience with them? Decent price as well. |
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Posted: 6/16/2014 11:47:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m411b30]
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Wanted to share my deer load. I've used the Sierra 65gn SP for several years now with great success. I've only had a few that didn't pass completely through the deer, and don't have any of those that were recovered to show off.
Entry is normally caliber sized to nearly 3/8", and exit is normally golf ball or maybe a little bigger. I've shot thru, and thru both shoulders with this bullet. The first deer I ever shot with this load was 15yds. from my tree so I had a pretty good angle to deal with. But the bullet went in right below the neck, and exploded the chest cavity before exiting. The heart was in three separate sections, and both lungs were mush. I've killed 150lb. deer out to 180yds. with this load. My load data: 65gn Sierra SP GameKing 25.5gn AR-Comp BR4 primer Match prepped LC brass .003" taper crimp Average velocity from a 16" Wylde chamber is 3050fps., and the load holds 3/4" groups at 100yds.. I've also shot deer with 75gn Hornady match, 53gn V-max reloads(3500fps.), and 55gn Hornady SP(close range). All work real well for deer. Other than that, sorry to dredge up an old thread.. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2014 7:07:06 PM EDT
[#23]
Great info
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MI, USA
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Posted: 8/9/2014 3:40:52 PM EDT
[#24]
More Cow a Bell!
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LA, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2014 5:15:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Tried to search but couldn't find an answer, excuse me if this is the wrong place.
I want to get an ar15 to hunt hogs and deer , so I found several 20" complete uppers at PSA. But which is better to use with 62-70gr bullets ? 1:7 or 1:8 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa/5-56-nato-223/20/psa-rifle-length-ss15g2-premium-20-stripped-railed-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa/5-56-nato-223/20/psa-20-chf-cl-5-56-1-7-ssk-15-upper-without-bcg-or-ch.html read this thread and think I'd use winchester 64gr power point , rem hog hammer 62gr tsx , SSA 70g tsz and Sierra GameKing 65gr,, which ever I can find. All my hunting will be < 200yds. Thanks for the advice. Jose |
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Posted: 9/4/2014 9:05:58 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jose_L:
Tried to search but couldn't find an answer, excuse me if this is the wrong place. I want to get an ar15 to hunt hogs and deer , so I found several 20" complete uppers at PSA. But which is better to use with 62-70gr bullets ? 1:7 or 1:8 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa/5-56-nato-223/20/psa-rifle-length-ss15g2-premium-20-stripped-railed-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/barreled-upper-assemblies/psa/5-56-nato-223/20/psa-20-chf-cl-5-56-1-7-ssk-15-upper-without-bcg-or-ch.html read this thread and think I'd use winchester 64gr power point , rem hog hammer 62gr tsx , SSA 70g tsz and Sierra GameKing 65gr,, which ever I can find. All my hunting will be < 200yds. Thanks for the advice. Jose The 70gr Barnes TSX will require a 1:7 to stabilize simply because it is so long (about as long as an 80gr lead core bullet). Both of my 1:9 barrels will stabilize 69gr lead core bullets as well as 62gr Barnes TSX which are about the same length, so a 1:8 would be just fine unless you are dead set on using the 70gr TSX. Personally, I would go with 1:7... |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2014 5:41:14 PM EDT
[#27]
1:8 will stabilize the 70 grain TSX. 1:9 will stabilize my favorite, the 62 grain TSX, which has a bit better velocity, shooting a little flatter and opening a bit better, for me.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2014 2:22:04 AM EDT
[#28]
After deciding I would use my AR for deer season this year I read 10 pages of this thread and some others on other forums. I decided on the Barnes TSX, and found a KILLER deal on Barnes VOR-TX 55gr TSX loaded ammunition. Ended up paying $.66/rnd once all was said and done. Here's my first deer taken with an AR/TSX... and possibly the first thing killed with an Aimpoint T-2?
Fired from ~125 yards, quartering toward me a little more than I realized. Entered behind shoulder a little higher than I meant and missed the heart, took out both lungs, exited farther down the rib cage on the far side. She jumped straight up in the air, took off like a bolt of lightning, disappeared into the woods, collapsed, and died in a pool of blood. No blood trail due to height of wound, but the blood started pouring once she went down. Total distance traveled after hit was around 150 yards, total time to expire was less than ten minutes (took ten minutes from time of shot to find her, probably died sooner). No damage or blood below the diaphragm. TSX recovered from water, NOT recovered from deer. 
Bullet exited this side, right above the diaphragm. No blood/damage below diaphragm. 
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Posted: 11/14/2014 3:01:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Shooter62]
[#29]
nice. I'm hoping I get to see what my 70 grain TSX loads will do this year.
I loaded them 3 years ago.  As a hunter.....I suck
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WI, USA
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Posted: 11/18/2014 1:35:23 AM EDT
[#30]
has anyone used the Winchester PDX1 223 round for deer? I have some of the 77gr rounds and am wondering if these will be ok?
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Posted: 11/18/2014 11:15:11 AM EDT
[#31]
Winchester 64gr power point.
60-70 yards broadside behind shoulder with complete pass through. Ran about 40 yds and piled up. BCM 11.5" SBR and Huntertown Arms Kestrel 556 
Entrance wound 
Exit wound 
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Posted: 11/18/2014 5:22:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutRN:
Winchester 64gr power point. 60-70 yards broadside behind shoulder with complete pass through. Ran about 40 yds and piled up. BCM 11.5" SBR and Huntertown Arms Kestrel 556 http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l316/glock_556/0db7bb1ec7e08b6c48c2206b0f977b04_zps516d0023.jpg Entrance wound http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l316/glock_556/d0c0cb4e1759bd97d7a93d6ea6e73d96_zps9b87f8ae.jpg Exit wound http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l316/glock_556/823b4ff03a35e73ff149fbabd29beba9_zpsb7e3b7ef.jpg This is what I like to see! I will be hunting with my 11.5 this weekend |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2014 1:34:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Went to local Dunhams to pick up some Federal Fushion 62 grain ammo that was in stock last week.All sold out.They had boxes of Remington Hog Hammer 223 in stock for $31.99 so I picked up a box to use for deer hunting,62 grain Barnes Triple Shock bullet.
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Posted: 11/25/2014 8:51:02 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whootsinator: After deciding I would use my AR for deer season this year I read 10 pages of this thread and some others on other forums. I decided on the Barnes TSX, and found a KILLER deal on Barnes VOR-TX 55gr TSX loaded ammunition. Ended up paying $.66/rnd once all was said and done. Here's my first deer taken with an AR/TSX... and possibly the first thing killed with an Aimpoint T-2? Fired from ~125 yards, quartering toward me a little more than I realized. Entered behind shoulder a little higher than I meant and missed the heart, took out both lungs, exited farther down the rib cage on the far side. She jumped straight up in the air, took off like a bolt of lightning, disappeared into the woods, collapsed, and died in a pool of blood. No blood trail due to height of wound, but the blood started pouring once she went down. Total distance traveled after hit was around 150 yards, total time to expire was less than ten minutes (took ten minutes from time of shot to find her, probably died sooner). No damage or blood below the diaphragm. TSX recovered from water, NOT recovered from deer. http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k343/Whootsinator/BarnesVOR-TX55grTSX2.jpg Bullet exited this side, right above the diaphragm. No blood/damage below diaphragm. http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k343/Whootsinator/Deer155grTSX.jpg |
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Posted: 11/26/2014 10:34:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stantonizm]
[#35]
I killed a deer yesterday with handloaded Federal Fusion based off what I've read in this thread. The pulled bullets are actually really cheap and the ones I got don't have any marks.
Load: Federal Fusion 62 gr/ LC brass/ 25.2 gr H4895 The shot was about ~100 yards away, downhill. He was facing downhill away from me, slightly quartered. The bullet went in behind his right-side rib cage, through the liver, and completely through the right lung longitudinally. I didn't see an exit wound, so I assume the bullet lodged somewhere in the shoulder/brisket/neck area. I was pretty impressed with the penetration and damage on a big deer at that distance. He made it 40 yards or so downhill and died. 
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Posted: 11/26/2014 12:56:20 PM EDT
[#36]
My boy shot this buck in NE MO. 65gr Gameking over 25.4gr TAC, LC brass and Remington 7 1/2 primers from a 20" RRA Predator Pursuit rifle. 75 yards. One shot-DRT. It did clip the spine on the way through so most any bullet would have worked in this case. I've killed my last 4 deer with that load. 3 of the 4 piled up within 10 yards. The 4th was just bad execution of a difficult shot on my part.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2014 2:01:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phantom8747:
Went to local Dunhams to pick up some Federal Fushion 62 grain ammo that was in stock last week.All sold out.They had boxes of Remington Hog Hammer 223 in stock for $31.99 so I picked up a box to use for deer hunting,62 grain Barnes Triple Shock bullet. Shot a spike yesterday at ~100 yards with the Fusion MSR .223. Clean pass through and took some lung with it through the exit wound. Deer didn't take a step and was DRT. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/28/2014 11:25:19 AM EDT
[#38]
Saw a doe, but i had to let it walk due to not being able to get a clean shot.
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Posted: 2/16/2015 1:03:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jukeboxx13]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whootsinator: After deciding I would use my AR for deer season this year I read 10 pages of this thread and some others on other forums. I decided on the Barnes TSX, and found a KILLER deal on Barnes VOR-TX 55gr TSX loaded ammunition. Ended up paying $.66/rnd once all was said and done. Here's my first deer taken with an AR/TSX... and possibly the first thing killed with an Aimpoint T-2? Fired from ~125 yards, quartering toward me a little more than I realized. Entered behind shoulder a little higher than I meant and missed the heart, took out both lungs, exited farther down the rib cage on the far side. She jumped straight up in the air, took off like a bolt of lightning, disappeared into the woods, collapsed, and died in a pool of blood. No blood trail due to height of wound, but the blood started pouring once she went down. Total distance traveled after hit was around 150 yards, total time to expire was less than ten minutes (took ten minutes from time of shot to find her, probably died sooner). No damage or blood below the diaphragm. TSX recovered from water, NOT recovered from deer. http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k343/Whootsinator/BarnesVOR-TX55grTSX2.jpg Bullet exited this side, right above the diaphragm. No blood/damage below diaphragm. http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k343/Whootsinator/Deer155grTSX.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 3/2/2015 3:38:39 AM EDT
[#40]
Sounds great, I want to use my AR when I am walking, and my Rem 700 VTR .308 on stand.
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USA
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Posted: 3/12/2015 3:11:55 AM EDT
[#41]
I am going to try and find some Winchester 64grn powerpoint.
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USA
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Posted: 4/15/2015 7:53:10 AM EDT
[#42]
I've never seen the 64gr power points. For some reason I only get mediocre groups from the federal fusion 62gr in my 20" ar I've relegated to deer hunting.
My groups are about 2 moa with the stuff. My favorite hunting ammo for my other calibers is federal blue box soft points. I don't think they have a .223 offering though. The blue box is what I had found as the most consistent cheap hunting ammo IMO |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2015 12:19:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buckshot556:
I've never seen the 64gr power points. For some reason I only get mediocre groups from the federal fusion 62gr in my 20" ar I've relegated to deer hunting. My groups are about 2 moa with the stuff. My favorite hunting ammo for my other calibers is federal blue box soft points. I don't think they have a .223 offering though. The blue box is what I had found as the most consistent cheap hunting ammo IMO PowerPoint .223: 
I prefer the PowerPointPlus line, but they were discontinued a few years ago. 
It was a 64-grain moly-coated cannellured softpoint, and with its heavy crimp & moly coating, its velocity runs right near what most 55-grainers do from my gun. I stocked up when I learned it was being discontinued, and now use it solely for deer hunting (& defensive) purposes. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2015 10:10:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eat_Beef]
[#44]
I'm late to the thread, I just waded through all 20 pages, and I can't believe no one has mentioned the 64 grain Speer Gold Dot. My son has taken 8 whitetail with it, along with a pile of hogs. It has never failed to exit, including 23+" through a boar at 150 yards. EVERYTHING has been DRT, and most have been behind the shoulder shots, although a couple were neck shots.
The GD gives tiny entrance and exit wounds, but massive trauma in the chest cavity. As best as I can tell, it acts like a partition; the front half expands rapidly/frags, and the rear portion continues in a straight line. And for the guy who was worried about punching through a deer shoulder, we've punched multiple hog shoulders with it. I've tried a pile of different pills, including 45, 55, and 62gr TSX, Core Lokt Ultra Bonded, most of the old school cup/core bullets, most of the OTMs and FMJs, and Fusions, and nothing has performed as well and as reliably as the GDSP. I am fully confident in it out to 250-300 yards on whitetail. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 11:41:08 PM EDT
[#45]
3 deer all dropped with federal fusion MSR 62gr out of 16" BBL. 2750avg FPS 5 feet from the BBL.
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Posted: 5/31/2015 6:58:11 AM EDT
[#46]
My go-to home defense rifle ammo is 50gr TSX out of my 12.5" SBR. Looks like I'll have to find some 62gr stuff for my 1/9 16" barrel. I'd love to be able to take a deer with my suppressed AR.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2015 12:35:53 AM EDT
[#47]
64g fusion or power point are both GTG Dead right there!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By quake:
PowerPoint .223: http://assets.academy.com/mgen/08/10274808.jpg?is=500,500 I prefer the PowerPointPlus line, but they were discontinued a few years ago. <a href="http://s51.photobucket.com/user/quake316/media/PPPlus.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/quake316/PPPlus.jpg</a> It was a 64-grain moly-coated cannellured softpoint, and with its heavy crimp & moly coating, its velocity runs right near what most 55-grainers do from my gun. I stocked up when I learned it was being discontinued, and now use it solely for deer hunting (& defensive) purposes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By quake:
Originally Posted By Buckshot556:
I've never seen the 64gr power points. For some reason I only get mediocre groups from the federal fusion 62gr in my 20" ar I've relegated to deer hunting. My groups are about 2 moa with the stuff. My favorite hunting ammo for my other calibers is federal blue box soft points. I don't think they have a .223 offering though. The blue box is what I had found as the most consistent cheap hunting ammo IMO PowerPoint .223: http://assets.academy.com/mgen/08/10274808.jpg?is=500,500 I prefer the PowerPointPlus line, but they were discontinued a few years ago. <a href="http://s51.photobucket.com/user/quake316/media/PPPlus.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/quake316/PPPlus.jpg</a> It was a 64-grain moly-coated cannellured softpoint, and with its heavy crimp & moly coating, its velocity runs right near what most 55-grainers do from my gun. I stocked up when I learned it was being discontinued, and now use it solely for deer hunting (& defensive) purposes. |
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Posted: 7/24/2015 8:01:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zoomer302:
Very well written. Articulate, and to the point. I dont think I was being indignant though.... Like I said YOU want to hunt deer with a 22 go ahead. It's illegal where I'm from - in ALL its varieties. Look, I realize that this is ARFCOM and we all love our AR's but I believe that a .308 150 - 168 grain ballistic tip is a far better choice for delivering terminal performance to a whitetails boiler room than a 5.56 NATO or 223 Rem is - regardless of bullet type construction. You dont. I really dont give a shit what you use - that's why it's your choice, but it's not for me. Me, I'll take a .308 diameter bullet thank you. You are indeed correct in that I have no knowledge about the current state of 223 hunting rounds, nor do I care to find out, but dont assume that I dont know the difference between a 22-250 and a 22 short. I've been reloading for everything I shoot for over 20 years and am more than a little obsessed with accuracy http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/Zoomer302/IMG_1584.jpg Thought you might like this one too (both with a 308 too!!) http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/Zoomer302/Hunting2008012.jpg Cant we just argue over how much better a 45 acp is over a 9mm? Or how much better the Giants are over the Cowboys? Holy crap those are some tiny deer. I live in an area of Michigan that get big, corn fed deer. 10pt, 180lb deer are just "average" size here. Those 2 in your car aren't much biger than dogs. I've put many deer down using 55gr fmj, but I prefer 55gr sp. |
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Posted: 8/15/2015 11:49:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556:
64g fusion or power point are both GTG Dead right there! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DOG556:
64g fusion or power point are both GTG Dead right there! Originally Posted By quake:
Originally Posted By Buckshot556:
I've never seen the 64gr power points. For some reason I only get mediocre groups from the federal fusion 62gr in my 20" ar I've relegated to deer hunting. My groups are about 2 moa with the stuff. My favorite hunting ammo for my other calibers is federal blue box soft points. I don't think they have a .223 offering though. The blue box is what I had found as the most consistent cheap hunting ammo IMO PowerPoint .223: http://assets.academy.com/mgen/08/10274808.jpg?is=500,500 I prefer the PowerPointPlus line, but they were discontinued a few years ago. <a href="http://s51.photobucket.com/user/quake316/media/PPPlus.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f360/quake316/PPPlus.jpg</a> It was a 64-grain moly-coated cannellured softpoint, and with its heavy crimp & moly coating, its velocity runs right near what most 55-grainers do from my gun. I stocked up when I learned it was being discontinued, and now use it solely for deer hunting (& defensive) purposes. I tagged a 300lb black bear last year after 3 shots using 64gr PP bullets. They are a good choice. |
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Posted: 8/28/2015 11:46:21 PM EDT
[#50]
went and tried to zero my new build with some deer ammo today..........luckily, my muzzle loader is still zeroed because I couldn't get a group with my AR to save my life.
Fired 20 rounds of regular old green tip just to make sure everything worked right. Just fucking around but I was still able to shoot decent groups at 50 yards. Switched over to Nosler Defense .223 and wound up shooting 6-10 inch groups from a rest at 50 yards.  Now, I'm no Carlos Hathcock but I was a marksmanship instructor and I shot competition for many years so I think I'm pretty good with an AR. I at least know how to shoot a damn group. This ammo just would.................not...............group.
16 inch barrel with 1/9 twist Bushnell AR 1-4 X scope. Worked great with green tip, wouldn't group with the spendy stuff. |
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