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Posted: 10/18/2016 10:56:54 PM EDT
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TYT MD-380. They seemed pretty decent, and you can pick them up for about $100 with programming cable and whatnot. There is also the MD-390 which is the waterproof version of same for an extra $50-60.
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:02:02 PM EDT
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less than $92 from MTCRadio with coupon code ... discount ...
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Posted: 10/18/2016 11:02:20 PM EDT
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To add on, the nice thing about the TYT is that is is easily programmed by your own system with free software.
If you haven't already, go to DMR-MARC.NET to register for a DMR ID. You will want to do this before you have the radio so you won't have to wait on it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 9:41:01 AM EDT
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios.
If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:12:46 AM EDT
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Nothing against Motorola gear, but does that price include programming software/cables? |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:23:37 AM EDT
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Nothing against Motorola gear, but does that price include programming software/cables? Cable and software no but cables can be had cheap ($15-80 depending if you want aftermarket or OEM) and software can be found by anyone with even the worst google skills. The knowledge that you are not causing harmful interference is priceless. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:41:06 AM EDT
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Cable and software no but cables can be had cheap ($15-80 depending if you want aftermarket or OEM) and software can be found by anyone with even the worst google skills. The knowledge that you are not causing harmful interference is priceless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Nothing against Motorola gear, but does that price include programming software/cables? Cable and software no but cables can be had cheap ($15-80 depending if you want aftermarket or OEM) and software can be found by anyone with even the worst google skills. The knowledge that you are not causing harmful interference is priceless. True enough, and exactly why I don't recommend cheap Chinese radios to anyone. Good to know about the cables & software, thanks. |
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Posted: 10/19/2016 11:47:49 AM EDT
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Nothing against Motorola gear, but does that price include programming software/cables? Cable and software no but cables can be had cheap ($15-80 depending if you want aftermarket or OEM) and software can be found by anyone with even the worst google skills. The knowledge that you are not causing harmful interference is priceless. True enough, and exactly why I don't recommend cheap Chinese radios to anyone. Good to know about the cables & software, thanks. Absolutely! I've not used any of the aftermarket cables for my XPRs or APXs (as the use the same cable) but I've heard plenty of people say they work fine. I just have enough money invested in Moto gear that I personally prefer OEM cables but I have a few aftermarket that work without issue for sine of my radios. |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 7:54:49 PM EDT
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Absolutely! I've not used any of the aftermarket cables for my XPRs or APXs (as the use the same cable) but I've heard plenty of people say they work fine. I just have enough money invested in Moto gear that I personally prefer OEM cables but I have a few aftermarket that work without issue for sine of my radios. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Nothing against Motorola gear, but does that price include programming software/cables? Cable and software no but cables can be had cheap ($15-80 depending if you want aftermarket or OEM) and software can be found by anyone with even the worst google skills. The knowledge that you are not causing harmful interference is priceless. True enough, and exactly why I don't recommend cheap Chinese radios to anyone. Good to know about the cables & software, thanks. Absolutely! I've not used any of the aftermarket cables for my XPRs or APXs (as the use the same cable) but I've heard plenty of people say they work fine. I just have enough money invested in Moto gear that I personally prefer OEM cables but I have a few aftermarket that work without issue for sine of my radios. When was the last time you turned on an XPR? Haha. Mine was earlier this week but it was a client's new 7550e. I haven't seen my 6550 in a few months now… |
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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:36:46 PM EDT
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When was the last time you turned on an XPR? Haha. Mine was earlier this week but it was a client's new 7550e. I haven't seen my 6550 in a few months now… My 4550 in the house is on all the time but on a analog repeater the majority of the time. Local DMR TGs are in my scan list though. 7550 was on the other day but I was playing with some stuff. Now my APX, XTS, and XTLs.... That's a every day kinda thing. |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Ebay? |
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Posted: 10/21/2016 9:23:58 PM EDT
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When was the last time you turned on an XPR? Haha. Mine was earlier this week but it was a client's new 7550e. I haven't seen my 6550 in a few months now… My 7550 every day |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 12:07:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 7550 every day Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When was the last time you turned on an XPR? Haha. Mine was earlier this week but it was a client's new 7550e. I haven't seen my 6550 in a few months now… My 7550 every day I second that as well. I love my XPR 7550 UHF as well. It's a great radio and well performer. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 1:03:55 PM EDT
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Friends don't let friends buy TYT radios. If you want to check out DMR look around and find a used or NOS Motorola XPR 6500/6550. They can be had for $200 or less and will blow the TYT out of the water all day long without even trying. Ebay? Yeah, typically on ebay and some on the FB radio trader pages. ZapZap picked up a NOS 6550 for $200 awhile back. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 2:45:56 PM EDT
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In a quick peek on EBay all I saw was $450++
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Posted: 10/23/2016 3:50:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2016 3:54:59 PM EDT
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Coo, Thx!l
so why would I replace my CSI750 with one of these.... and you can't use 'Because it's a /\/\" that really don't matter to me |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:15:15 PM EDT
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Coo, Thx!l so why would I replace my CSI750 with one of these.... and you can't use 'Because it's a /\/\" that really don't matter to me Because it's the bestest! 
Superior audio on both transmit and receive, a more sensitive receiver, stronger front end is going to reject strong interference, roaming, and it's built like a tank. If you come across any sites using RAS you'll still be able to talk. |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 5:29:44 PM EDT
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What do you need to program it?
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Posted: 10/23/2016 8:06:35 PM EDT
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What do you need to program it? computer cable MOL sub pretty easy to be honest. oh, a short online class and a 25khz key is recommended as well |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:03:03 PM EDT
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Yes I watched a video on programming. Not exactly quick and easy like Chirp.
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Posted: 10/23/2016 9:21:11 PM EDT
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Yes I watched a video on programming. Not exactly quick and easy like Chirp. Utilitarian, sure... not overly tough though |
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Posted: 10/23/2016 10:34:32 PM EDT
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Yes I watched a video on programming. Not exactly quick and easy like Chirp. It's a commercial radio, lots of options depending on what the end user needs. Just something you accept when moving to LMR radios. They are all I use now. Someone with the weakest google skills can locate the software needed. But all in all, programming an XPR for conventional (non trunking use) is really simple. And the online guides are pretty good. |
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Posted: 10/24/2016 12:05:39 PM EDT
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So far all the I sites I found won't let you download or it had aids.
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Posted: 10/24/2016 7:25:09 PM EDT
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The MOTOTRBO software isn't the most intuitive but once you figure it out it's actually pretty nifty and allows for a decent amount of customization/security.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 2:31:16 AM EDT
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Coo, Thx!l so why would I replace my CSI750 with one of these.... and you can't use 'Because it's a /\/\" that really don't matter to me Motorola: You can buy better, but you can't pay more! |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 9:19:57 AM EDT
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Coo, Thx!l so why would I replace my CSI750 with one of these.... and you can't use 'Because it's a /\/\" that really don't matter to me Motorola: You can buy better, but you can't pay more! Please, inform us to what is better? |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 9:59:21 AM EDT
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I really don't find that I use my TYT MD-380. It was a neat novelty for a while but I just don't use it anymore. If someone wants to try it out ping me and make an offer. I have the radio, antennas, box and factory accys.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:03:33 PM EDT
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Coo, Thx!l so why would I replace my CSI750 with one of these.... and you can't use 'Because it's a /\/\" that really don't matter to me Motorola: You can buy better, but you can't pay more! Please, inform us to what is better? As long as we are talking DMR…it's hard. The e series radios have extremely hot receivers…only thing that anyone else has been able to compete with is Simoco in the audio quality department and Tait in the ruggedness (with IS ratings). |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 9:15:19 PM EDT
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The "$200" Motorola is a myth unless you are OK w/ pirating software (discussion of which, btw, is a CoC violation. Just sayin') or you have someone program it for you. I also find it funny how ARFHAMS are OK w/ stealing software but they get all uppity about HR-1301
Batteries are difficult to come by, and mostly available used. The sub $200 radio had no charger and the other one was $250. Agreed that their radios are the nuts. There was a limited number of people talking about Time Slot Sync issues w/ the MD-380, and as I understood it only happened if you quick keyed. I have not seen anyone validate whether or not it still happens in later firmwares (most information on this topic seems to be from 8/2015). Not saying they're perfect, but they are awful nice for $100. I'm more than happy to be further educated on this subject with facts, not "I heard". Not sure if there was actually a recorded incident of "splattering all over the bands" - I don't have my specan anymore or I'd look. Maybe an RTL SDR Dongle would do the trick! Also, if I'm running a hotspot, even if TSs are malsynced, I'm not bothering anyone because it's my hotspot. Again, not sure about about splattering - and I would be very interested to see data/proof of this for the MD-380. Now, enough flame bait - what I am interested in is purchasing new legit Hytera radio. I'm also even curious about the Vertex Standard DMR equipment or the Kenwood. I haven't been able to find a good US source that is Ham Friendly for Hytera. |
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Posted: 10/25/2016 10:04:21 PM EDT
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The "$200" Motorola is a myth unless you are OK w/ pirating software (discussion of which, btw, is a CoC violation. Just sayin') or you have someone program it for you. I also find it funny how ARFHAMS are OK w/ stealing software but they get all uppity about HR-1301 Batteries are difficult to come by, and mostly available used. The sub $200 radio had no charger and the other one was $250. Agreed that their radios are the nuts. There was a limited number of people talking about Time Slot Sync issues w/ the MD-380, and as I understood it only happened if you quick keyed. I have not seen anyone validate whether or not it still happens in later firmwares (most information on this topic seems to be from 8/2015). Not saying they're perfect, but they are awful nice for $100. I'm more than happy to be further educated on this subject with facts, not "I heard". Not sure if there was actually a recorded incident of "splattering all over the bands" - I don't have my specan anymore or I'd look. Maybe an RTL SDR Dongle would do the trick! Also, if I'm running a hotspot, even if TSs are malsynced, I'm not bothering anyone because it's my hotspot. Again, not sure about about splattering - and I would be very interested to see data/proof of this for the MD-380. Now, enough flame bait - what I am interested in is purchasing new legit Hytera radio. I'm also even curious about the Vertex Standard DMR equipment or the Kenwood. I haven't been able to find a good US source that is Ham Friendly for Hytera. Feel free to ask ZapZap about his complete $200 new old stock XPR-6550 purchase... The deals are out there you just have to look for them. The two links I posted were just examples. I didn't spend a lot of time searching for better examples. I never said weather it was ok or not to pirate software, I just stated the fact that it's out there. The decision past that is up to the individual. Merely affording someone the opportunity to commit a crime is not unlawful. People were talking about it because people had issues with it and some people experienced it first hand. I talked to a few people who had. I would love to test it out myself but I don't have a $30k service monitor to test DMR with. So I have to rely on sources I trust to relay factual information. Batteries are not difficult to come by. Tons of brand new batteries on ebay and via Motorola themselves and miscellaneous dealers on the web. Hell even a local Motorola shop. The time slot bleed is a big issue as that would be classified as harmful interference which is a violation of FCC rules. You are responsible for what your equipment is doing. Being ignorant to if it is actually causing an issue does not give one protection from the law. Sure, the interwebs were saying it was due to quick keying the radio but without proper test equipment one can't say without a doubt that it is or is not causing bleed. Back to the thread. Hytera makes a great radio. I've not heard anything but great things about them. Have a friend with one of the first generation Vertex radios. It was always solid. Just a rebadged Motorola XPR aside a few missing features. The Kenwood offering will no doubt be a solid radio as well. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 6:59:28 AM EDT
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent.
I'm also patiently awaiting to see what comes of this: 
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Posted: 11/4/2016 1:10:10 PM EDT
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I have the TYT 390 and have it all programmed up.
Do you need a hotspot to access the net? |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 6:58:13 PM EDT
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if you don't have a local repeater
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Posted: 11/4/2016 9:59:13 PM EDT
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent. Where do you buy them? Is programming software free? |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 10:39:45 PM EDT
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent. I'm also patiently awaiting to see what comes of this: http://forums.radioreference.com/attachments/hytera-forum/56022d1468279206-hytera-dmr-lte-dmrlte.jpg They do feel solid, ours have never failed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 11:07:57 PM EDT
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent. I'm also patiently awaiting to see what comes of this: http://forums.radioreference.com/attachments/hytera-forum/56022d1468279206-hytera-dmr-lte-dmrlte.jpg Would you be so kind as to put a name with the picture? I'd like to know more. |
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Posted: 11/4/2016 11:13:44 PM EDT
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So what Hytera offering would be comparable to the Tytera TYT-380?
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Posted: 11/5/2016 11:26:25 AM EDT
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent. I'm also patiently awaiting to see what comes of this: http://forums.radioreference.com/attachments/hytera-forum/56022d1468279206-hytera-dmr-lte-dmrlte.jpg They do feel solid, ours have never failed. I feel I got to experience Hytera in their core. Their customer support seems to be excellent. Their dealer support is shit. They advertise their products as being Tier 3 compliant (Hytera actually utilizes non-standard signaling for their radios as a default) but it takes a literal act of God to get the authorization approval to turn on a subscriber for Tier 3. Then trying to get them to support or help with issues with Tier 3 is like pulling teeth as the US support crew can't handle it and it has to go through China. For Tier 2 operations, they've got their shit ready to go. Tier 3, go buy Motorola, Sepura, Simoco, or Tait. |
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Posted: 11/5/2016 1:25:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/5/2016 4:55:03 PM EDT
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I'm not saying $200 moto ht's in NOS condition dont happen....it is you have to be the first to spot them when they rarely happen.
I got a 380 off fleabay for less than $85 delivered. New. For me, good enough to get my feet wet. If I spotted a 6550 for $200 NOS, I'd nab it too. 
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Posted: 11/5/2016 8:08:02 PM EDT
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I'm not saying $200 moto ht's in NOS condition dont happen....it is you have to be the first to spot them when they rarely happen. I got a 380 off fleabay for less than $85 delivered. New. For me, good enough to get my feet wet. If I spotted a 6550 for $200 NOS, I'd nab it too. Had the bidding war not been started on mine, I probably could've gotten it for $185 (remember this was almost 2 years ago, on eBay). |
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Posted: 11/5/2016 9:30:29 PM EDT
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I feel I got to experience Hytera in their core. Their customer support seems to be excellent. Their dealer support is shit. They advertise their products as being Tier 3 compliant (Hytera actually utilizes non-standard signaling for their radios as a default) but it takes a literal act of God to get the authorization approval to turn on a subscriber for Tier 3. Then trying to get them to support or help with issues with Tier 3 is like pulling teeth as the US support crew can't handle it and it has to go through China. For Tier 2 operations, they've got their shit ready to go. Tier 3, go buy Motorola, Sepura, Simoco, or Tait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a handful of Hytera DMR radios, and they've been nothing short of excellent. I'm also patiently awaiting to see what comes of this: http://forums.radioreference.com/attachments/hytera-forum/56022d1468279206-hytera-dmr-lte-dmrlte.jpg They do feel solid, ours have never failed. I feel I got to experience Hytera in their core. Their customer support seems to be excellent. Their dealer support is shit. They advertise their products as being Tier 3 compliant (Hytera actually utilizes non-standard signaling for their radios as a default) but it takes a literal act of God to get the authorization approval to turn on a subscriber for Tier 3. Then trying to get them to support or help with issues with Tier 3 is like pulling teeth as the US support crew can't handle it and it has to go through China. For Tier 2 operations, they've got their shit ready to go. Tier 3, go buy Motorola, Sepura, Simoco, or Tait. Yes the US support is pretty rough. I know overseas the tier 3 is baller, I have only used them as tier 2. |
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Posted: 11/6/2016 1:52:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/6/2016 7:43:14 AM EDT
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So what Hytera offering would be comparable to the Tytera TYT-380? Tytera is not anywhere near the quality of Hytera. As far as feature set goes what is comparable? Motorola, Hytera, Tait, etc. are going to do everything that the Tytera will do and more with exception to being able to listen to a system without programming individual talk groups. But that's not really a big deal because with a $20 SDR you can figure out active talk groups on a repeater easily. |
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Posted: 11/6/2016 8:24:48 AM EDT
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It's a commercial radio, lots of options depending on what the end user needs. Just something you accept when moving to LMR radios. They are all I use now. Someone with the weakest google skills can locate the software needed. But all in all, programming an XPR for conventional (non trunking use) is really simple. And the online guides are pretty good. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes I watched a video on programming. Not exactly quick and easy like Chirp. It's a commercial radio, lots of options depending on what the end user needs. Just something you accept when moving to LMR radios. They are all I use now. Someone with the weakest google skills can locate the software needed. But all in all, programming an XPR for conventional (non trunking use) is really simple. And the online guides are pretty good. While I am not DMR, still conventional for my system, DMR at the shop, commercial gear, of the better quality (Moto-Vertex-Etc) is the way to go, audio is excellent, TX is also above the CCR stuff and lower end commercial gear. 100% agree with Zap and TLF |
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Posted: 11/7/2016 1:04:09 AM EDT
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I've been happy with my Vertex evx-539.
The worldwide dmr-marc talk groups lose their luster fast. Radio guys are already such a small group, so spitting people further into smaller, more restrictive hardware and networks seems counter-productive. |
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Posted: 11/21/2016 9:02:54 PM EDT
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You can usually find killer deals on eBay if you search around.
The programming software is free, with the caveat that the radio has to be purchased through a dealer. If anyone needs the CPS, let me know. The PD782 and MD782 are FPP. ZapZap is correct on the lack of Tier 3 functionality, but unless you're running a professional system, you're not going to have any issues with Tier 2. The Hyteras are capable of doing more than 99% of hams are going to ask out of a radio, up to and including dispatching, Gelocation, Geofencing, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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