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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:02:10 PM
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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:47:46 PM
Originally Posted By axpilot:
I need a 2m radio that I can mod to xmit and recieve on "buisness bands" (154.00, or so). i need to add a company radio to my work truck, but want to be able to talk on 2m also. Is this possible? Jake yes but not legal. Amature radios are not certified for use outside of amature bands. your best bet would be something like the wouxon ht's that are technically business radios that cover amature bands also. |
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Posted: 7/24/2012 8:54:48 PM
It I am legal to transmit on a frequency, what diff does it make what kind of equip I am running. As long as it is a legal power. No different than the guys converting commercial stuff for use on amateur bands
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Posted: 7/24/2012 9:03:16 PM
[Last Edit: 7/24/2012 9:04:05 PM by The_Beer_Slayer]
Originally Posted By axpilot:
It I am legal to transmit on a frequency, what diff does it make what kind of equip I am running. As long as it is a legal power. No different than the guys converting commercial stuff for use on amateur bands because the radios are not type accepted for use on those bands. by FCC regulations it is illegal. that was explained in detail when you studied for your tech license. are you a licensed ham? commercial radios are generally type accepted for use on amateur bands so they are legal. |
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Posted: 7/24/2012 9:06:14 PM
[Last Edit: 7/24/2012 9:07:25 PM by robmkivseries70]
HI AX, Yes, it is different, the commercial rigs are "Type Accepted" by the FCC where as ham rigs are not. There have been a few big city P.D.s that got hefty fines for doing exactly what you propose. A commercial rig that does 2 meters is your best legal bet. Check some of the used markets. HTH 73, Rob ETA I need to type faster . . . |
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Posted: 7/24/2012 9:11:12 PM
Hey beer slayer, actually I am a licensed ham. I took that test 7yrs ago I think. I don't live and breath this stuff like some people, that's why I asked the question.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 10:25:21 PM
Rule of thumb....."Don't Ask Don't Tell"....
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Posted: 7/24/2012 10:29:36 PM
Originally Posted By axpilot:
It I am legal to transmit on a frequency, what diff does it make what kind of equip I am running. As long as it is a legal power. No different than the guys converting commercial stuff for use on amateur bands it is legal for commercial radios to be used on hand bands because they are type accepted for the commercial band and by default legal on the amateur band. amateur radios are not type accepted for the commercial bands so they are illegal to use on the commercial freq's. just buy a commercial radio and program in your work freq's and the local amateur repeater freq's. i have a VX-800 that is 200chs that i have setup for EOC(work as a fire fighter/medic) and also have most of the local amateur repeaters programmed in it. |
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Posted: 7/24/2012 10:40:02 PM
Just about any of the big 3 can be modded to do what you want. Find the model number you think would work for you then do a google search to see if a mod is available.
Or just get the Wouxun mobile when it goes into mass production. |
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Posted: 7/24/2012 11:31:14 PM
The FT-2900 will do what you are talking about.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 11:56:42 PM
[Last Edit: 7/25/2012 12:02:12 AM by JC_Conn]
Originally Posted By axpilot:
Hey beer slayer, actually I am a licensed ham. I took that test 7yrs ago I think. I don't live and breath this stuff like some people, that's why I asked the question. <off-topic>
You didn't like what you were told (the truth), so you got snotty.
As a licensed amateur, you are required to know the rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation.
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You need something that is appropriately FCC certified for commercial use. Most LMR-type radios will also do 2m. Who will be doing to programming? Most commercial radios are channelized, and are not front-panel programmable (other than some Wouxon and import HTs).
Also, depending on what commercial freqs you'll be using, you may find that the appropriate antenna for those freqs won't work (high SWR) very well for amateur frequencies.
/edited: To correct my horrible grammar tonight. Thinking too fast, typing too slow.
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Posted: 7/24/2012 11:59:41 PM
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Originally Posted By JC_Conn:
<off-topic> You asked a question, and received an accurate response. You didn't like what you were told (the truth), so you got snotty. As a licensed amateur, you are required to know the rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation. </off-topic> You need something that appropriate FCC certified for commercial use. Most LMR type radios will also do 2m. Who will be doing to programming, as most commercial radios are channelized, and not front panel programmable (other than some Wouxon and other import HTs). Also, depending on what commercial freqs you'll be using, you may find that the appropriate antenna for those freqs won't work (high SWR) for amateur frequencies.  ar-jedi |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:08:45 AM
[Last Edit: 7/25/2012 12:17:14 AM by Gamma762]
Originally Posted By mylt1:
Originally Posted By axpilot:
It I am legal to transmit on a frequency, what diff does it make what kind of equip I am running. As long as it is a legal power. No different than the guys converting commercial stuff for use on amateur bands it is legal for commercial radios to be used on hand bands because they are type accepted for the commercial band and by default legal on the amateur band. amateur radios are not type accepted for the commercial bands so they are illegal to use on the commercial freq's. just buy a commercial radio and program in your work freq's and the local amateur repeater freq's. i have a VX-800 that is 200chs that i have setup for EOC(work as a fire fighter/medic) and also have most of the local amateur repeaters programmed in it. Not exactly. Commercial/LMR radios are type accepted for LMR service, not for amateur service. However, type acceptance is not required to operate in the amateur service, although operating a non type accepted radio puts the onus on the operator for compliance with technical specifications. This is why amateurs can build their own radios, buy radio kits, etc. Since LMR radios have significantly more stringent specifications than amateur, this is generally not a problem. The solution to the OP's situation is to just get something like an Icom or Vertex LMR radio that covers 136-174 continuous and where the company will readily sell you programming software. As far as antennas, a 1/4 wave with a thick whip or a "wideband" 1/2 wave can cover from the amateur band up through 160MHz or so at under 2:1 vswr. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:16:54 AM
Originally Posted By JC_Conn:
Originally Posted By axpilot:
Hey beer slayer, actually I am a licensed ham. I took that test 7yrs ago I think. I don't live and breath this stuff like some people, that's why I asked the question. <off-topic> You didn't like what you were told (the truth), so you got snotty. As a licensed amateur, you are required to know the rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation. </off-topic> You need something that appropriate FCC certified for commercial use. Most LMR type radios will also do 2m. Who will be doing to programming, as most commercial radios are channelized, and not front panel programmable (other than some Wouxon and other import HTs). Also, depending on what commercial freqs you'll be using, you may find that the appropriate antenna for those freqs won't work (high SWR) for amateur frequencies. This reply isn't directed toward you specifically JC or anyone else on this board so please don't take it that way. With that being said.... I am so tired of the type accepted radio argument from hams. They will beat that dead horse up and down, you can't use this radio for commercial frequencies because it's for ham use only, even though the manufacturer made it so you only have to lift one diode to make it transmit on other frequencies. The FCC will track you down on your mobile and fine you tens of thousands of dollars. Fact of the matter is the FCC will more than likely never know in most instances. The rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation you swore an oath to when you got you license....I don't guess any hams speed while they are talking on their mobile, since that would violate the oath they took when they received their drivers license. I'll come out and say it, I re-crystaled some business band radios from radio shack to operate on the fire frequency my department used. I also modded an IC T7-H to transmit on those fire frequencies and GA H.E.A.R. when I got a little more money. I landed a helicopter with that radio when that poor 17 year old was ejected on a dark and stormy night. FCC fine for a clear conscious....I'll gladly pay it. Hams, if it doesn't affect you directly with your operations....and I've never heard of a non type accepted radio destroying a repeater when keyed up, try to answer the question without preaching the gospel every time. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:31:12 AM
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Originally Posted By JC_Conn: Originally Posted By axpilot:
Hey beer slayer, actually I am a licensed ham. I took that test 7yrs ago I think. I don't live and breath this stuff like some people, that's why I asked the question. <off-topic>
You didn't like what you were told (the truth), so you got snotty.
As a licensed amateur, you are required to know the rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation.
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You need something that appropriate FCC certified for commercial use. Most LMR type radios will also do 2m. Who will be doing to programming, as most commercial radios are channelized, and not front panel programmable (other than some Wouxon and other import HTs).
Also, depending on what commercial freqs you'll be using, you may find that the appropriate antenna for those freqs won't work (high SWR) for amateur frequencies.
This reply isn't directed toward you specifically JC or anyone else on this board so please don't take it that way. With that being said.... I am so tired of the type accepted radio argument from hams. They will beat that dead horse up and down, you can't use this radio for commercial frequencies because it's for ham use only, even though the manufacturer made it so you only have to lift one diode to make it transmit on other frequencies. The FCC will track you down on your mobile and fine you tens of thousands of dollars. Fact of the matter is the FCC will more than likely never know in most instances. The rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation you swore an oath to when you got you license....I don't guess any hams speed while they are talking on their mobile, since that would violate the oath they took when they received their drivers license. I'll come out and say it, I re-crystaled some business band radios from radio shack to operate on the fire frequency my department used. I also modded an IC T7-H to transmit on those fire frequencies and GA H.E.A.R. when I got a little more money. I landed a helicopter with that radio when that poor 17 year old was ejected on a dark and stormy night. FCC fine for a clear conscious....I'll gladly pay it. Hams, if it doesn't affect you directly with your operations....and I've never heard of a non type accepted radio destroying a repeater when keyed up, try to answer the question without preaching the gospel every time. However...
Just like I wouldn't discuss the illegal modification of an semi-auto weapon into a full-auto weapon ("It's just a spring and some metal bits... who will ever find out?!?"), I prefer not to discuss radio modifications and usage outside of FCC regulation, in violation of the law. I think it's better to give the chapter and verse of the law of the land regarding such things and stick to that.
Although the amateur community is a self-policing organization, we are overseen by the government albeit luckily without heavy-handed bureacracy or enforcement. We, as amateur radio operators, need to hold ourselves AND our fellows to a high standard in order to keep our little piece of the spectrum orderly. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:43:24 AM
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Originally Posted By badeffect10:
I am so tired of the type accepted radio argument from hams. They will beat that dead horse up and down, you can't use this radio for commercial frequencies because it's for ham use only, even though the manufacturer made it so you only have to lift one diode to make it transmit on other frequencies. The FCC will track you down on your mobile and fine you tens of thousands of dollars. Fact of the matter is the FCC will more than likely never know in most instances. www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2002/1019.html October 15, 2002 Karl Bingert, Chief Bon Secour Fire & Rescue Bon Secour, AL 36535 RE: Advisory Notice末Use of Non-Certified Equipment for Public Safety Communications; Case #EB-2002-437 Dear Chief Bingert: Information has come to our attention that your department may be using ICOM IC-V8 Amateur Radio Service 2-meter hand-held radio units that have been modified to operate on fire department frequencies. Please be advised that all equipment used in the public safety service must be certified by the Commission and each unit must bear a certification label. The use of Amateur Radio units of any kind, modified to operate on your frequencies, would be against the Commission's rules and would result in enforcement action by the Commission. You may call me at 717-338-2502 if you have any questions about this inquiry. Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Hams, if it doesn't affect you directly with your operations....and I've never heard of a non type accepted radio destroying a repeater when keyed up, try to answer the question without preaching the gospel every time. http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=5 4) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including
how's that for gospel? seriously though 末 the problem is that idiots purchase amateur equipment because 1) it is easy to program, and 2) it is easy to modify. result? they use and misuse amateur frequencies. here is a typical post, taken on an off-roading forum i used to frequent... marnes2986 Veteran Member Location: Corona/Anaheim, Ca Heres a quick question: Ive just purchased an IC-V8000 and for some reason i cant communicate with other people. I can defintelty "recieve" on multiple freqs but when i try to TX nobody can hear me. Ex. Im listening on 146.850 then when i hold down the TX button the screen goes to 146.250, then after i let go it goes back to 146.850??? And nobody responds, they just keep having their convo I know the problem is very simple, and i wouldve known this if i have my HAM liscense. Most of my friends who have Ham;s live far away so i cant really test out the radio until our next desert run. Thank you, any info is appreciated ... I do have a manual. So what keywords am i looking for? I need to find out how to TX 0.6MHz apart. Correct? Yes i dont have a HAM liscense and i really dont intend to get one. I will just use the radio to monitor Races and talk to my friends, and im pretty sure there is a great amount of people in the desert community without liscenses. Im not planning on dropping F-bombs and messing around like on CB's. So HAM gurus dont slam me. ar-jedi |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:48:55 AM
Originally Posted By JC_Conn:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Originally Posted By JC_Conn:
Originally Posted By axpilot:
Hey beer slayer, actually I am a licensed ham. I took that test 7yrs ago I think. I don't live and breath this stuff like some people, that's why I asked the question. <off-topic> You didn't like what you were told (the truth), so you got snotty. As a licensed amateur, you are required to know the rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation. </off-topic> You need something that appropriate FCC certified for commercial use. Most LMR type radios will also do 2m. Who will be doing to programming, as most commercial radios are channelized, and not front panel programmable (other than some Wouxon and other import HTs). Also, depending on what commercial freqs you'll be using, you may find that the appropriate antenna for those freqs won't work (high SWR) for amateur frequencies. This reply isn't directed toward you specifically JC or anyone else on this board so please don't take it that way. With that being said.... I am so tired of the type accepted radio argument from hams. They will beat that dead horse up and down, you can't use this radio for commercial frequencies because it's for ham use only, even though the manufacturer made it so you only have to lift one diode to make it transmit on other frequencies. The FCC will track you down on your mobile and fine you tens of thousands of dollars. Fact of the matter is the FCC will more than likely never know in most instances. The rules and regulations regarding equipment and proper operation you swore an oath to when you got you license....I don't guess any hams speed while they are talking on their mobile, since that would violate the oath they took when they received their drivers license. I'll come out and say it, I re-crystaled some business band radios from radio shack to operate on the fire frequency my department used. I also modded an IC T7-H to transmit on those fire frequencies and GA H.E.A.R. when I got a little more money. I landed a helicopter with that radio when that poor 17 year old was ejected on a dark and stormy night. FCC fine for a clear conscious....I'll gladly pay it. Hams, if it doesn't affect you directly with your operations....and I've never heard of a non type accepted radio destroying a repeater when keyed up, try to answer the question without preaching the gospel every time. However... Just like I wouldn't discuss the illegal modification of an semi-auto weapon into a full-auto weapon ("It's just a spring and some metal bits... who will ever find out?!?"), I prefer not to discuss radio modifications and usage outside of FCC regulation, in violation of the law. I think it's better to give the chapter and verse of the law of the land regarding such things and stick to that. Although the amateur community is a self-policing organization, we are overseen by the government albeit luckily without heavy-handed bureacracy or enforcement. We, as amateur radio operators, need to hold ourselves AND our fellows to a high standard in order to keep our little piece of the spectrum orderly.
Understood and appreciated. However, the part in red, OP wasn't talking about transmitting on ham frequencies illegally, much like the example I used. The fact of the matter is, most amateur radios are made to be easily modified for other uses. Right, wrong or indifferent, that's how it is. I think a lot of people are turned off by hard core hams with their type accepted preaching who could otherwise be brought into the fold. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:58:17 AM
Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
I am so tired of the type accepted radio argument from hams. They will beat that dead horse up and down, you can't use this radio for commercial frequencies because it's for ham use only, even though the manufacturer made it so you only have to lift one diode to make it transmit on other frequencies. The FCC will track you down on your mobile and fine you tens of thousands of dollars. Fact of the matter is the FCC will more than likely never know in most instances. www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2002/1019.html October 15, 2002 Karl Bingert, Chief Bon Secour Fire & Rescue Bon Secour, AL 36535 RE: Advisory Notice末Use of Non-Certified Equipment for Public Safety Communications; Case #EB-2002-437 Dear Chief Bingert: Information has come to our attention that your department may be using ICOM IC-V8 Amateur Radio Service 2-meter hand-held radio units that have been modified to operate on fire department frequencies. Please be advised that all equipment used in the public safety service must be certified by the Commission and each unit must bear a certification label. The use of Amateur Radio units of any kind, modified to operate on your frequencies, would be against the Commission's rules and would result in enforcement action by the Commission. You may call me at 717-338-2502 if you have any questions about this inquiry. Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Hams, if it doesn't affect you directly with your operations....and I've never heard of a non type accepted radio destroying a repeater when keyed up, try to answer the question without preaching the gospel every time. http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=5 4) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including
how's that for gospel? seriously though 末 the problem is that idiots purchase amateur equipment because 1) it is easy to program, and 2) it is easy to modify. result? they use and misuse amateur frequencies. here is a typical post, taken on an off-roading forum i used to frequent... marnes2986 Veteran Member Location: Corona/Anaheim, Ca Heres a quick question: Ive just purchased an IC-V8000 and for some reason i cant communicate with other people. I can defintelty "recieve" on multiple freqs but when i try to TX nobody can hear me. Ex. Im listening on 146.850 then when i hold down the TX button the screen goes to 146.250, then after i let go it goes back to 146.850??? And nobody responds, they just keep having their convo I know the problem is very simple, and i wouldve known this if i have my HAM liscense. Most of my friends who have Ham;s live far away so i cant really test out the radio until our next desert run. Thank you, any info is appreciated ... I do have a manual. So what keywords am i looking for? I need to find out how to TX 0.6MHz apart. Correct? Yes i dont have a HAM liscense and i really dont intend to get one. I will just use the radio to monitor Races and talk to my friends, and im pretty sure there is a great amount of people in the desert community without liscenses. Im not planning on dropping F-bombs and messing around like on CB's. So HAM gurus dont slam me. ar-jedi ar-jedi, I'm so tired of your posts that you're about to be the first person I ever put on ignore. I'm well aware of the COC, please show me where I directly went against it or recommended someone do the same. This isn't the first time we have had a disagreement, your posting history shows a pretty big inferiority complex, you always have to be bigger, better and smarter. It's really pretty pathetic if one stands back and takes a hard look at them. You're no Keith-J, so stop trying to be. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:21:19 AM
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Originally Posted By badeffect10:
ar-jedi, I'm so tired of your posts that you're about to be the first person I ever put on ignore. I'm well aware of the COC, please show me where I directly went against it or recommended someone do the same. This isn't the first time we have had a disagreement, your posting history shows a pretty big inferiority complex, you always have to be bigger, better and smarter. It's really pretty pathetic if one stands back and takes a hard look at them. You're no Keith-J, so stop trying to be. lol. i remember you for all the wrong reasons: 
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339278 you got pasted from 7 different directions in that thread. 
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339961 so please, put me on ignore. i'll do the same. i'm a "ignore virgin" as well 末 and it would be appear to be incredibly frustrating for you to realize that your childish and tepid personal attacks are /dev/null'd. ar-jedi  |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:29:48 AM
Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
ar-jedi, I'm so tired of your posts that you're about to be the first person I ever put on ignore. I'm well aware of the COC, please show me where I directly went against it or recommended someone do the same. This isn't the first time we have had a disagreement, your posting history shows a pretty big inferiority complex, you always have to be bigger, better and smarter. It's really pretty pathetic if one stands back and takes a hard look at them. You're no Keith-J, so stop trying to be. lol. i remember you for all the wrong reasons:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339278 you got pasted from 7 different directions in that thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339961 so please, put me on ignore. i'll do the same. i'm a "ignore virgin" as well 末 and it would be appear to be incredibly frustrating for you to realize that your childish and tepid personal attacks are /dev/null'd. ar-jedi Personal attacks???...Really?? I won't take 23 minutes to research my position on my opinion of you with one thread in the past. My posts or ones from someone else, you try to make people look like idiots and then hide behind the COC. Notice I didn't have to link that thread but that was exactly the one I was talking about. Inferiority complex...I think you have it. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 9:58:13 AM
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
ar-jedi, I'm so tired of your posts that you're about to be the first person I ever put on ignore. I'm well aware of the COC, please show me where I directly went against it or recommended someone do the same. This isn't the first time we have had a disagreement, your posting history shows a pretty big inferiority complex, you always have to be bigger, better and smarter. It's really pretty pathetic if one stands back and takes a hard look at them. You're no Keith-J, so stop trying to be. lol. i remember you for all the wrong reasons:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339278 you got pasted from 7 different directions in that thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339961 so please, put me on ignore. i'll do the same. i'm a "ignore virgin" as well 末 and it would be appear to be incredibly frustrating for you to realize that your childish and tepid personal attacks are /dev/null'd. ar-jedi Personal attacks???...Really?? I won't take 23 minutes to research my position on my opinion of you with one thread in the past. My posts or ones from someone else, you try to make people look like idiots and then hide behind the COC. Notice I didn't have to link that thread but that was exactly the one I was talking about. Inferiority complex...I think you have it. Meh, put me on IGNORE too. The standards in amateur have always been high, hope to keep it that way! |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 10:00:01 AM
[Last Edit: 7/25/2012 10:00:33 AM by mylt1]
Originally Posted By ZOMBIEKILLER1:
The FT-2900 will do what you are talking about. Not legally. |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 10:21:49 AM
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Originally Posted By robmkivseries70:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
Originally Posted By badeffect10:
ar-jedi, I'm so tired of your posts that you're about to be the first person I ever put on ignore. I'm well aware of the COC, please show me where I directly went against it or recommended someone do the same. This isn't the first time we have had a disagreement, your posting history shows a pretty big inferiority complex, you always have to be bigger, better and smarter. It's really pretty pathetic if one stands back and takes a hard look at them. You're no Keith-J, so stop trying to be. lol. i remember you for all the wrong reasons:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339278 you got pasted from 7 different directions in that thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1334799_Voyager_1_is_leaving_the_solar_system_.html&page=2#i34339961 so please, put me on ignore. i'll do the same. i'm a "ignore virgin" as well 末 and it would be appear to be incredibly frustrating for you to realize that your childish and tepid personal attacks are /dev/null'd. ar-jedi Personal attacks???...Really?? I won't take 23 minutes to research my position on my opinion of you with one thread in the past. My posts or ones from someone else, you try to make people look like idiots and then hide behind the COC. Notice I didn't have to link that thread but that was exactly the one I was talking about. Inferiority complex...I think you have it. Meh, put me on IGNORE too. The standards in amateur have always been high, hope to keep it that way! RIF
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HomeSlice
'cause wrong's what I do best
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Posted: 7/25/2012 11:47:03 AM
Originally Posted By badeffect10: Originally Posted By ar-jedi: Originally Posted By badeffect10: lol. Personal attacks??? Would you guys mind not doing this here? |
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Posted: 7/25/2012 12:57:03 PM
Originally Posted By K9-Bob:
Rule of thumb....."Don't Ask Don't Tell".... Isn't that a "government" thing? 
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Vulcan94
Proud to be a American كاف !
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Posted: 7/25/2012 1:10:22 PM
Y'all really need to take your disagreement to IM or the pit.
That being said, I wonder if the FCC really has a technical reason for their type acceptance rules or did the big comm manufacturers [cynic] "greased their palms"[/cynic] so that the vast majority of groups would have to buy more expensive equipment? Not that I'm saying that any of our .gov agencies or politicians would do such a thing. "wink, wink" 
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