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Posted: 10/5/2010 11:45:53 PM
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A 6 meter thru 80 meter G5RV is only 102 ft. long and only $53. for a high quality antenna with a lifetime replacement guarantee

check out.... http://www.antennasmore.com/g5rv.htm

I have two (a102 ft and a 204ft)and the are indestructible
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I'll start a thread on setting up for digital comms in the next day or two. I got busy doing some consulting work this evening and missed the net. Sorry.

You guys will really dig digital. You can get through the noise and send/recieve even when you can't hardly hear the other station's signal. MT-63 and Olivia do really well through the noise. They work much better than psk31.

Come SHTF digital also goes covert pretty easily.


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Posted: 10/6/2010 6:39:37 AM

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km,

Are you located in xxxxxn, IN, your address starts with 2, and your email address ends with 7?


I'm in indiana but my address doesn't start with 2 and my email doesn't have a 7 in it

I thought I was able to copy your call, but I guess not. Any 9 station check in with a 2x3 that ends with PS?
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Posted: 10/6/2010 7:16:38 AM
Originally Posted By pcsutton:
I'll start a thread on setting up for digital comms in the next day or two. I got busy doing some consulting work this evening and missed the net. Sorry.

You guys will really dig digital. You can get through the noise and send/recieve even when you can't hardly hear the other station's signal. MT-63 and Olivia do really well through the noise. They work much better than psk31.

Come SHTF digital also goes covert pretty easily.




That would be fantastic!

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Posted: 10/6/2010 7:37:33 AM
Originally Posted By RedHotChiliPepper:

Originally Posted By km:
Originally Posted By RedHotChiliPepper:
km,

Are you located in xxxxxn, IN, your address starts with 2, and your email address ends with 7?


I'm in indiana but my address doesn't start with 2 and my email doesn't have a 7 in it

I thought I was able to copy your call, but I guess not. Any 9 station check in with a 2x3 that ends with PS?


you probably heard xx9PFx he did pretty good with his 5 watts. I know my antenna doesn't do bad, but it is definitely directional E-W. South is my weakest direction.
the New Carolina Windom is strung with the long end to the north at 60 ft the south end is in a blue spruce tree at 25 ft.
the antenna is slightly NW-SE with the house about straight south of the balun and vertical radiator. House has a steel roof and is about 25 ft high. That about totally blocks the vertical portion of the antenna to the south.
I loaned my lift out so it wasn't here when I installed the antenna. Since it is home I want to move the south end up to about 40 ft so the antenna is in the clear above the roof of the house.
In the 2 1/2 weeks that this antenna has been up I am very pleased with it but there is always room for improvement. Do I need to hook up the TS-430S/SB-200 and run 600 watts for the net?
That rig is stored for now. not enough room on the desk. Also need to run a new AC line here to drive the amp before using that rig.
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Posted: 10/6/2010 7:39:55 AM
The weak area of my antenna goes over Indianapolis, Nashville and on down into AL around Birmingham. If you are in that area I will have trouble with your signal.
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The weak area of my antenna goes over Indianapolis, Nashville and on down into AL around Birmingham. If you are in that area I will have trouble with your signal.

KM, I had a really good copy on you the whole time, on the far east side of Indy. ( xx9PFx )
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Originally Posted By BigDaddy0004:
Originally Posted By km:
The weak area of my antenna goes over Indianapolis, Nashville and on down into AL around Birmingham. If you are in that area I will have trouble with your signal.

KM, I had a really good copy on you the whole time, on the far east side of Indy.


We are close, I had a fair copy on you. Your 5 watts isn't doing bad. I only had a S3 noise level when we started. At times it jumped to S9 (manmade) I think some of that was intentional. You were about S9 so depending on the noise the copy could be good or bad. The problem I had was a few of the stations checking in were very slightly off of my frequency and I had switched to a very narrow SSB filter and DSP to cut out the manmade noise. IF they were even slightly off frequency I couldn't copy them. Often they were done transmitting before I tuned them with the RIT. The 1.7 khz filter was doing it's job. I wish I could have used a wide filter for net control. That is one problem with an antenna that hears good.
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Posted: 10/6/2010 9:30:31 AM
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Originally Posted By pcsutton:
I'll start a thread on setting up for digital comms in the next day or two. I got busy doing some consulting work this evening and missed the net. Sorry.

You guys will really dig digital. You can get through the noise and send/recieve even when you can't hardly hear the other station's signal. MT-63 and Olivia do really well through the noise. They work much better than psk31.

Come SHTF digital also goes covert pretty easily.


Yep, I love digital modes, Contestia, DominoEx, Feld Hell, MFSK-16, Throb and Thor are others that I have tried. JT-65 is probably my favorite for working through a lot of noise, I have worked stations not only sub audible but also nearly invisible on the waterfall.

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Posted: 10/6/2010 9:32:50 AM
So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?
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So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?


Faintly. KC9XXX, in WI. I heard you read back your screen name. Well.. I heard you mention AA, and a bunch of 7's and 8's.
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Posted: 10/6/2010 10:11:39 AM
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So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?


I heard you in Fort Lauderdale , but no one could hear me


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Originally Posted By BJDFL53:
Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?


I heard you in Fort Lauderdale , but no one could hear me





You might have been close enough to be the only who had a chance of copy'g me..... ended "Alpha Mike Alpha" ??

Pretty sure I heard you...

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Posted: 10/6/2010 10:23:00 AM
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Originally Posted By BJDFL53:
Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?


I heard you in Fort Lauderdale , but no one could hear me





You might have been close enough to be the only who had a chance of copy'g me..... ended "Alpha Mike Alpha" ??

Pretty sure I heard you...




Yes, I heard you down in the noise. My call is KJ4xxx
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Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?

I heard you in Indy. Lot of static, but readable. ( xx9PFx )
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So who could copy me (KB1xxx) besides KA9xxx?


I heard you in Milwaukee WI pretty clearly. However, you were pretty quiet.
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I spent the early evening looking about, I think I am going to have to buy a tuner and get something like a g5rv. I just cannot figure out how to shove 136 feet of wire into my 1/4 acre lot.


Go to http://www.hamuniverse.com/ae5jufielddayantenna.html

That antenna, with a tuner, will work 75 m, 40 m, 20 m, 17 m, 15 m, and 10 m.

Without tuner, it will work the upper end of 75 m, all of 40 and 20 meters.

17, 15, and 10 meters are in the 3-3.5:1 SWR range, and a tuner easily handles it with almost no loss.

You an also just copy the 75 m portion for a separate antenna.

It works. Field Day we used two, one on 20 and 15 m, the other on 40 m. I worked, from the LA gulf coast, NC, SC, FL, GA, AL, MS, all over TX, AR, OH, TN, and more.

But I was also able to work all over my state, stations as close as 60 miles, so the NVIS capability is there.

The other operator worked NY on 15 m, and San Diego, CA on 20 m, and generally, all over the USA.

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Posted: 10/6/2010 10:11:36 PM

Tuesday's @ 21:30 EST on 3.898? I'd like to join in next week if y'all don't mind...

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Ugh another reason to hurry up and get my HF rig
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Thanks for the signal reports, gentlemen. Yeah, I was quiet at the beginning because I forgot to turn on my speech compressor. Turned it on for my last TX. Conditions seem so fade a bit at the end, too, except for net control who was always booming at my location.
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Thanks for the signal reports, gentlemen. Yeah, I was quiet at the beginning because I forgot to turn on my speech compressor. Turned it on for my last TX. Conditions seem so fade a bit at the end, too, except for net control who was always booming at my location.


you calling me a loud mouth? Well, whatever you are calling me I guess my IC-7000 and New Carolina Windom are working. I'm not saying it is the best antenna ever, but it fit the space I had available about the best of any.
I also have a multiband fan dipole here for 80,40 and 15 but couldn't hang it very well. G5RV same problem. Even though I have over 300 acres, trees, a metal roof and a 3 phase power line in front of the house still make it challenging to put up antennas with a reasonable feedline length. If I used 200 to 300 ft of feedline I could have some great antennas but may lose any gain in feedline loss.
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Posted: 10/7/2010 10:47:54 PM
No, not a loudmouth Good taste in equipment––I'm running an IC7000 and a Cobra Ultralite so very similar!
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Posted: 10/8/2010 1:43:35 PM

Originally Posted By km:
Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
Thanks for the signal reports, gentlemen. Yeah, I was quiet at the beginning because I forgot to turn on my speech compressor. Turned it on for my last TX. Conditions seem so fade a bit at the end, too, except for net control who was always booming at my location.


you calling me a loud mouth? Well, whatever you are calling me I guess my IC-7000 and New Carolina Windom are working. I'm not saying it is the best antenna ever, but it fit the space I had available about the best of any.
I also have a multiband fan dipole here for 80,40 and 15 but couldn't hang it very well. G5RV same problem. Even though I have over 300 acres, trees, a metal roof and a 3 phase power line in front of the house still make it challenging to put up antennas with a reasonable feedline length.If I used 200 to 300 ft of feedline I could have some great antennas but may lose any gain in feedline loss.

Good Lord....I can only wish I had 300 acres!! If I did....I'd have a 160 meter sKywire loop antenna up. Loop antennas rock!!

There isn't much feed line loss with true ladded line.....just a thought... At 300' of length & 100 watts out, generic 600 ohm ladder line only has 0.108db loss (2.5 watts).
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Posted: 10/8/2010 3:39:07 PM
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[quote]Originally Posted By SVGA-1:
I have been monitoring 3.898.0 since the end of the net and there are a few people talking about how our net "isn't going to work". They have several people that come in out out on there from around 6pm till after midnight. We may run into problems...just thought I would let you all know.[/quote]






If they create a problem for us using 3.898 we wil just go down to 3.893 or up to 3.902Mhz. If we have to we could move way down in the 3800 where the generals start, all the way to the end of the band at 3.997Mhz( just inside 4000)












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Posted: 10/8/2010 4:04:56 PM
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Originally Posted By km:
Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
Thanks for the signal reports, gentlemen. Yeah, I was quiet at the beginning because I forgot to turn on my speech compressor. Turned it on for my last TX. Conditions seem so fade a bit at the end, too, except for net control who was always booming at my location.


you calling me a loud mouth? Well, whatever you are calling me I guess my IC-7000 and New Carolina Windom are working. I'm not saying it is the best antenna ever, but it fit the space I had available about the best of any.
I also have a multiband fan dipole here for 80,40 and 15 but couldn't hang it very well. G5RV same problem. Even though I have over 300 acres, trees, a metal roof and a 3 phase power line in front of the house still make it challenging to put up antennas with a reasonable feedline length.If I used 200 to 300 ft of feedline I could have some great antennas but may lose any gain in feedline loss.

Good Lord....I can only wish I had 300 acres!! If I did....I'd have a 160 meter sKywire loop antenna up. Loop antennas rock!!

There isn't much feed line loss with true ladded line.....just a thought... At 300' of length & 100 watts out, generic 600 ohm ladder line only has 0.108db loss (2.5 watts).


Regarding losses... LMR400 is your friend. It's expensive but with a 1:1 match at 28 mhz, the loss is something like 1.1 dB/100 feet. On 40 meters it's negligible - probably within the tolerance of the SWR meter. However the losses get HUGE when you don't have a 1:1 match. Because of that it's important to either use a tuned antenna or a good tuner. Also a remotely controlled tuner at the feedpoint would work great - that way you'd always have a 1:1 match and very low feedline losses.

Ladder line is a much cheaper way to avoid losses, but you have to take care to run it above the ground.
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