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Posted: 1/8/2009 10:54:21 PM
Nice...thanks for the offer. Got the IM, I'll contact you regarding setting up a time off-board.
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Posted: 2/14/2009 2:07:36 AM
Originally Posted By JBlitzen:
100-200 miles is a problem area in ham radio.

VHF/UHF is line of sight, and antennas are usually small. You would never, ever, make 100 miles with a handheld VHF/UHF radio, unless you used a repeater, which is sort of cheating, and even repeaters with excellent antennae and power supplies will have a devil of a time reaching three digits in range.


In June 2007, I hiked to the top of Telescope Peak in Death Valley, which was 11000 ft. I brought my Icom W32 with a Diamond RH77CA antenna and 5 watts on UHF. I was able to hit a repeater at 8000' on Frazier Mountain in Frazier Park, CA. It was about 138 miles away, as the crow flies. It was a linked repeater system, that I was able to converse with my father in the Bay Area.

So it is possible, though elevation is the ultimate antenna with VHF/UHF.

The Freq card is a good format. If you use Excel or Open Office, you can change the background to different colors for differentiating between bands.
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Posted: 2/24/2009 6:33:10 PM
Links aren't working
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Posted: 3/8/2009 11:07:23 PM
Originally Posted By schapman43:
Links aren't working


still having issues?

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Posted: 3/8/2009 11:28:18 PM

i've incorporated some comments from above. anything else?

DRAFT of the next version is up:

PDF: http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/ham/reference/EMCOMM-FREQ-REF-CARD-v119draft.pdf

XLS: http://losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/ham/reference/EMCOMM-FREQ-REF-CARD-v119draft.xls

comments/suggestions/etc appreciated!

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Posted: 3/12/2009 12:35:00 PM
Hi , the links did not work for me?
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Posted: 3/12/2009 12:52:54 PM
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Hi , the links did not work for me?
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the links in the post directly above yours? anyone else having an issue?

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Posted: 3/12/2009 1:14:06 PM
work fine for me
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Posted: 3/13/2009 2:21:31 AM
Looks good, but I'm a little confused by this part:

AIR | 121.500 | 3.920 | AM/LSB | Emergency / Locator

What exactly is 3.920 LSB, or am I reading it wrong?
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Posted: 3/13/2009 10:34:01 AM
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Looks good. Only thing is, did CHU move off of 7.335 Mhz yet? I remember reading somewhere that they were going to move since the there was a change to the Ham & SW allocation, and they were concern with interferance.


Yep.. they did change to 7.850 Mhz. Here's the link CHU


It looks good, I'll be printing one off for my use.

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Posted: 3/13/2009 6:04:13 PM
Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:
Looks good, but I'm a little confused by this part:

AIR | 121.500 | 3.920 | AM/LSB | Emergency / Locator

What exactly is 3.920 LSB, or am I reading it wrong?


I take it your not a Ham???? 3.920 Mhz Lower Side Band. Which is part of the Single Side Band modulation used on the HF bands.
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Originally Posted By monkeyrsx2k2:
Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:
Looks good, but I'm a little confused by this part:

AIR | 121.500 | 3.920 | AM/LSB | Emergency / Locator

What exactly is 3.920 LSB, or am I reading it wrong?


I take it your not a Ham???? 3.920 Mhz Lower Side Band. Which is part of the Single Side Band modulation used on the HF bands.

While I'm still a HF noob, I do get that part. Its just the description that I don't understand. Is 3.920 LSB an Air Locator channel as the descreption says, or just another Ham HF frequency?
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Posted: 3/16/2009 10:18:50 PM

Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:

Originally Posted By monkeyrsx2k2:
Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:
Looks good, but I'm a little confused by this part:

AIR | 121.500 | 3.920 | AM/LSB | Emergency / Locator

What exactly is 3.920 LSB, or am I reading it wrong?


I take it your not a Ham???? 3.920 Mhz Lower Side Band. Which is part of the Single Side Band modulation used on the HF bands.

While I'm still a HF noob, I do get that part. Its just the description that I don't understand. Is 3.920 LSB an Air Locator channel as the descreption says, or just another Ham HF frequency?
I'd read it as 121.500 in AM mode for Emergencies / 3.920 in LSB mode for Locator.

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Posted: 3/16/2009 10:58:25 PM
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Everything looks good and I hate to even want to put this out there but with the European AM stations moving out of the spectrum from 7.100 to 7.200,on March 29,2009,

would'nt a freq. of something between 7.175 and 7.200 be better than 7.213?

The 7.175 to 7.200 will be open to the General class with out the foreign AM broadcasters to add to the QRM.

Right in the middle is 7.185?

Just a thought
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Posted: 3/22/2009 10:48:56 PM
as usual, looks good, thanks for the updates
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Posted: 4/18/2009 1:26:11 PM
Originally Posted By traprmike:
now maybe a net schedule to go along with this. or at least times to be listening for ARFCOM'ers

nightly at 0001 UTC?? just as a starting point???



So - is anybody doing the 40M daily net? I have listened a few times and heard nothing.

I'm in Western Oregon.
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Posted: 4/18/2009 7:50:34 PM
I suggest adding some digital mode frequencies for each band and specifying Olivia 16/500 as the calling mode.
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Posted: 5/2/2009 3:34:14 PM
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just getting back engaged with this project...

Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
I suggest adding some digital mode frequencies for each band and specifying Olivia 16/500 as the calling mode.


regarding digital modes, in the latest document rev there are PSK31 frequencies. i'm not an Olivia user, but i do caution that most all digital modes for SHTF/EMCOMM use generally require ancillary equipment (e.g., a PC w/soundcard and/or external Rigblaster/Signalink) –– and that means additional operational complexity and additional power requirements.

i believe the mindset behind the SHTF/EMCOMM frequency sheet is "KISS", versus a definitive list of every possible mode of communications.

thoughts?

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Posted: 5/26/2009 7:33:01 PM
YLISSB Net has moved to 7.201mhz at 23:00 UTC Mon. thru Fri.
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Posted: 5/26/2009 8:30:51 PM
Originally Posted By ar-jedi:

just getting back engaged with this project...

Originally Posted By aa777888-2:
I suggest adding some digital mode frequencies for each band and specifying Olivia 16/500 as the calling mode.


regarding digital modes, in the latest document rev there are PSK31 frequencies. i'm not an Olivia user, but i do caution that most all digital modes for SHTF/EMCOMM use generally require ancillary equipment (e.g., a PC w/soundcard and/or external Rigblaster/Signalink) –– and that means additional operational complexity and additional power requirements.

i believe the mindset behind the SHTF/EMCOMM frequency sheet is "KISS", versus a definitive list of every possible mode of communications.

thoughts?

ar-jedi



Everything you said is true to a certain extent. However many digital modes are substantially more robust than SSB voice. This is especially important for QRP operations with small portable antennas. Running your uber-portable FT817 at 5W on a Buddipole or long piece of wire can be an exercise in frustration unless you are operating CW or digital. I suspect that digital modes are also beyond the capability of most average military SIGINT or COMINT activities as they are setup for military EW, not civilian. You can make Olivia contacts in conditions that are hopelessly beyond the capability of SSB voice. It's too bad the WSPR and JT65 are so obscure. If you only need to transfer short messages like "ETA 1700" "POSITION XYZ" etc. they can do that with ridiculously low power levels reliably and they have an additional advantage of being rather covert. At any rate it would seem to be a simple matter to identify certain frequencies and add them to the list as another tool in the toolbox. I suggest the following dial frequencies, all USB of course: 3583, 7070, 10140, 14070, 18070.
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Posted: 6/2/2009 3:36:20 AM
Originally Posted By Paul:
I monitor the Wilderness Protocol channel on 2M while out in the sticks. Lots of other 4WD adventures seem to be using it too.

The Wilderness Protocol is a suggestion that those outside of repeater range should monitor standard simplex channels at specific times in case others have Emergency or priority calls.

The primary frequency monitored is 146.52 MHz; secondarily or alternatively 52.525, 223.5, 446.0 and 1294.5 MHz respectively. The idea is to allow communications between hams that are hiking or backpacking in uninhabited areas, outside repeater range an alternative opportunity to be heard.


I think we all have "52" plugged into every 2 meter radio we have,,,, don't we???
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Posted: 6/4/2009 10:55:19 PM
www.primetimeshortwave.com

English shortwave broadcasts by time/freq/targeted area. Great resource for SWLing.
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Actually, ar-jedi... one more thing.

At our club meeting a few nights ago, we received a good lesson in traffic handling/message taking.

The purpose of an emergency net is to handle emergency traffic. There used to be a booklet, a net directory, no longer in print. Melinda at ARRL told me these two links supercede/replace that Net Directory. These links are the same document, one in MS Word, one in Adobe PDF format.

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/nts-mpg/docs/index.html MS Word version

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/nts-mpg/pdf/index.html PDF version


And there is a specific message form, a pad of yellow pages. This can be ordered here:

http://www.arrl.org/catalog/?category=&words=message+pad Message Pads from ARRL


The incoming messages just happened to be for our two new members, welcoming them to the world of ham radio. They just happened to be standing there in the club station as our club president copied, including ARL messages. (Don't know what this is? Read up! I gave you the links.) So, a good lesson in traffic handling.
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Posted: 7/9/2009 3:11:53 AM
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Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
regarding digital modes, in the latest document rev there are PSK31 frequencies. i'm not an Olivia user, but i do caution that most all digital modes for SHTF/EMCOMM use generally require ancillary equipment (e.g., a PC w/soundcard and/or external Rigblaster/Signalink) –– and that means additional operational complexity and additional power requirements


OTOH, some of the digital modes require considerably less transmitter power than their "analog" counterparts - which may offset the extra power requirements of a laptop and radio interface. Also, the stealthiness of negative SNR modes could be an advantage in some circumstances.
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I have been monitoring 7.213mhz for many months and there is rarely a time when the frequency is not obliterated with splatter from foreign stations on 7.210 or 7.205 or 7.200 when the band is in any useable condition.

I would highly suggest that the frequency be changed to something lower or higher, out of the bandwidth of some of the spashbox foreign broadcast stations.

I think the interference on 7.213 has contributed greatly to the reduction of people even tuning in.......its just noise and annoying is an understatement.

Anyone who has experienced this same problem please chime in here and lets get some concensus on a quiet frequency that can be monitored without the constant noise storm of over modulated foreign transmitters
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