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Posted: 5/29/2016 3:23:11 AM EDT
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Tagging... Semi auto DPMS "lite hunter" isn't light. Looking to add a nice light bolt action to the collection.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 5:45:16 AM EDT
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Howa alpine mountain. Very light and accurate.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 6:45:54 AM EDT
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Rem Model 7,.243
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Posted: 5/29/2016 8:08:55 AM EDT
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What is wrong with .243 ? Should be fine. 100gr @ 2960 should take care of any Sheep on the planet out to 400 yards. 600 if you are that good.
Hell. I dropped a 140 hog with one round of .243 @ 310 yards. Sheep should be no problem. Don't over gun ! If your argument is longer range, wind resistance then maybe 150gn .300 win mag.. Lots of Sheeple use 300WM. |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 11:11:40 AM EDT
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Depends on your definition of light.
I have a Ruger American Predator 308 that's has a slightly heaver than normal 18" barrel, wearing a Vortex Diamondback 3x9x40 scope, mounted with Talley lightweight mounts. 38" long and weighs in at 7lb. 1.8oz. |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 11:14:55 AM EDT
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Tikka t3 in whatever caliber you like, great rifle perfect for mountain hunting
Edit- and for sheep I would go with a short action with a range of about 500 meters. So a .308, 7mm-08, 300 wsm all great choices |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 4:10:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/29/2016 8:09:37 PM EDT
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I'm sure .308 is adequate, and maybe the SCAR is the answer, but it's still heavier than I want to go.
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Posted: 5/29/2016 10:20:26 PM EDT
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How about the new Ruger Hawkeye FTW
I know the msrp is over 1k but I would think one could be found for around 1k |
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Posted: 5/29/2016 11:22:04 PM EDT
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Has Ruger QC improved that much (on their rifles at least)? Last time I seriously considered one the M77 was getting all sorts of bad press over horrendous barrels that shot poorly and fouled like no other.
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Posted: 5/30/2016 5:20:14 PM EDT
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Has Ruger QC improved that much (on their rifles at least)? Last time I seriously considered one the M77 was getting all sorts of bad press over horrendous barrels that shot poorly and fouled like no other. The reviews I have read recently on Rugers have had great out of the box accuracy. I've been looking into a couple of more hunting type rifles for some hunting trips. |
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Posted: 5/30/2016 6:15:46 PM EDT
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I'll do some research into the Ruger, but upon initial glance at everything fitting my requirements, the Tikka is the closest to what I'm looking for at around $750.
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Posted: 6/1/2016 12:46:46 PM EDT
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Look at the weatherbys, especially the range certified, they are under 1000.
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Posted: 6/5/2016 12:52:45 AM EDT
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Your remington 700 in .243 is more than up to this task.
I recommended any good bonded bullets in 85gr-105gr. It's more than a match for most grass eating game in North America. If you want to be talked into a new hunting rifle,  i recommend a Tikka T3 lite in .308 or .30-06.
wish i can upload photos. weighs 8lb 12 oz with a scope (NF 4-14x50 FFP) weighs 10lbs 7oz with said scope & supressor (Thunderbeast 30P-1) If you are a reloader; 185gr Berger 58.5gr H-4350 Winchester brass Win LRP Gives 2,850 ft/s from a 22" barrel & 3,050ft/s from a 26" barrel (Savage 110) |
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Posted: 6/5/2016 6:23:50 PM EDT
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The 2 light rifles I have owned and would recommend are the Weatherby Ultrlite and the Kimber 8400. The Weatherby Ultralite in 257 Weatherby Mag would be the perfect rifle for you if you handload or can afford the ammo. My 8400 in 300wsm is as light as I would want to go without a brake. The gun is very accurate but it packs a good kick. Not an issue for a hunting rifle IMHO.
The Weatherby was the nicest carry gun I have ever packed. It is also a real value when you start pricing the competition in ultralite guns. Good luck! |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 4:55:02 PM EDT
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I carry a Howa 1500 in 30.06, with the larger rounds I carry to hunt elk, it kicks pretty hard, but you really shouldn't need more than 1 shot. Sighting and breaking it in got my shoulder pretty sore.
Howa makes the actions for weatherby, though the weatherbys are a lot nicer. I spent around 350 for the rifle and cheap scope it came with. The weatherby will be about double that. I like having a cheap rifle because it gets bashed up on trees, rocks, snow, and my pack frame. If I had the 750 to spend, I would have liked the weatherby, but the Howa is plenty accurate at 200 yards (under 3"). |
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Posted: 6/6/2016 7:11:09 PM EDT
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I say a Forbes or go super light with a proof research rifle.
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Posted: 7/31/2016 11:23:18 PM EDT
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I seriously would opt for a T3 in .308 and never look back.
Plus there is a TON of factory ammo you can get that if you don't feel like handloading, you are sure to find a sub-moa load that will work. And if you do decide to hand load, it is pretty darn hard to create a handload in a Tikka .308 that won't shoot under an inch at 100. BTW, 155 grain Scenars and Varget were made by the accuracy and hunting Gods for .308s. |
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Posted: 8/1/2016 11:35:51 PM EDT
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I carry a Howa 1500 in 30.06, with the larger rounds I carry to hunt elk, it kicks pretty hard, but you really shouldn't need more than 1 shot. Sighting and breaking it in got my shoulder pretty sore. Howa makes the actions for weatherby, though the weatherbys are a lot nicer. I spent around 350 for the rifle and cheap scope it came with. The weatherby will be about double that. I like having a cheap rifle because it gets bashed up on trees, rocks, snow, and my pack frame. If I had the 750 to spend, I would have liked the weatherby, but the Howa is plenty accurate at 200 yards (under 3"). The Ultralite is the Mk-5 action. Is Howa making that one? I would love to replace the one I sold... |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 2:24:26 PM EDT
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I Picked up a Tikka T3 Lite in 7mm Rem Mag for my Elk rifle. It's amazingly accurate with everything I have shot through it so far. Tikka makes one heck of a rifle for the money spent.
As for the caliber I will offer my $.02. The .308Win is a popular round because it's a Nato round and widely available. It is cheaper than many other calibers due to it's popularity. With that said I don't much care for it. Don't get me wrong it's a very effective round but it does nothing for me. If I were in your shoes I would look at a T3 chambered in 260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x55(if you're a reloader) or 7mm-08 if you are looking for a non magnum round. If you are looking for the Magnum then the 7mm Rem mag or 300WM would work. However I shot the 300WM in the T3 and it's pretty brutal. The Difference between the 7MM and the 300WM in recoil is pretty substantial. I have a Sendero in 300WM and with it weighing several pounds more it still has more recoil than my light weight 7MM shooting 162gr AMAX. |
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Posted: 8/27/2016 9:45:24 PM EDT
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Buddy picked up a Savage 6.5 Creedmore last year for a mule deer hunt. Liked the light weight and added a BDC scope so he could shoot longer ranges.
He took his shot at around 20 feet. Saw the mulie bed down and stalked right up to it. Guide and I laughed about his long range rifle. http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LH |
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Posted: 8/28/2016 9:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy picked up a Savage 6.5 Creedmore last year for a mule deer hunt. Liked the light weight and added a BDC scope so he could shoot longer ranges. He took his shot at around 20 feet. Saw the mulie bed down and stalked right up to it. Guide and I laughed about his long range rifle. http://savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LH |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 12:14:51 PM EDT
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I'm strongly considering the new t3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag.
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Posted: 8/29/2016 2:59:54 PM EDT
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I'm strongly considering the new t3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. I have this exact one except mine is synthetic stock vs the wood. Crazy light and very accurate. I am using Hornadys precision hunter rounds and they have been sub moa if I do my part. OP, my suggestion would be a Tikka. You get great accuracy and about the lightest rifle no matter what caliber you decide to go with. You'd be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the a tikka. |
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Posted: 8/29/2016 3:32:34 PM EDT
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Savage 11 .308
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Posted: 8/29/2016 7:30:31 PM EDT
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I have this exact one except mine is synthetic stock vs the wood. Crazy light and very accurate. I am using Hornadys precision hunter rounds and they have been sub moa if I do my part. OP, my suggestion would be a Tikka. You get great accuracy and about the lightest rifle no matter what caliber you decide to go with. You'd be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the a tikka. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm strongly considering the new t3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. I have this exact one except mine is synthetic stock vs the wood. Crazy light and very accurate. I am using Hornadys precision hunter rounds and they have been sub moa if I do my part. OP, my suggestion would be a Tikka. You get great accuracy and about the lightest rifle no matter what caliber you decide to go with. You'd be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the a tikka. What weight bullet? Do you know the velocity you're getting? |
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Posted: 8/30/2016 11:30:05 PM EDT
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What weight bullet? Do you know the velocity you're getting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm strongly considering the new t3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. I have this exact one except mine is synthetic stock vs the wood. Crazy light and very accurate. I am using Hornadys precision hunter rounds and they have been sub moa if I do my part. OP, my suggestion would be a Tikka. You get great accuracy and about the lightest rifle no matter what caliber you decide to go with. You'd be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the a tikka. What weight bullet? Do you know the velocity you're getting? The 162 ELD-X bullet. I haven't chrono'd the rounds yet so I'm not sure the exact velocity. Using the Strelok app I input the velocity of 2950 (off the Hornady box) and made a hit 2" below where I was aiming at 485 yds. This was using the turrets off my Viper PST. I was happy about that, but need to actually put some time into the round to get a accurate dope chart. |
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Posted: 8/31/2016 12:09:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 162 ELD-X bullet. I haven't chrono'd the rounds yet so I'm not sure the exact velocity. Using the Strelok app I input the velocity of 2950 (off the Hornady box) and made a hit 2" below where I was aiming at 485 yds. This was using the turrets off my Viper PST. I was happy about that, but need to actually put some time into the round to get a accurate dope chart. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm strongly considering the new t3x hunter in 7mm Rem Mag. I have this exact one except mine is synthetic stock vs the wood. Crazy light and very accurate. I am using Hornadys precision hunter rounds and they have been sub moa if I do my part. OP, my suggestion would be a Tikka. You get great accuracy and about the lightest rifle no matter what caliber you decide to go with. You'd be hard pressed to find any negative reviews on the a tikka. What weight bullet? Do you know the velocity you're getting? The 162 ELD-X bullet. I haven't chrono'd the rounds yet so I'm not sure the exact velocity. Using the Strelok app I input the velocity of 2950 (off the Hornady box) and made a hit 2" below where I was aiming at 485 yds. This was using the turrets off my Viper PST. I was happy about that, but need to actually put some time into the round to get a accurate dope chart. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 12:58:33 AM EDT
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Tikka T3 Lite in 300 WM
Took my elk this year with it. Fantastic rifle. Muzzle break with limb saver, less recoil than my bull barrel .308 Rem 700. |
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Posted: 12/19/2016 1:20:18 AM EDT
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Tikka with fluted barrel. Great set up, super light, super accurate.
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Posted: 12/19/2016 12:11:14 PM EDT
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I'm a bit hesitant about recommending anything from Remington at this point but for a light rifle I really like my Model 7 in 260 - not sure when I bought it but it has to be approaching 10yrs old (I think). Very light and handy. Has been absolute death to any deer it has shot.
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Posted: 12/19/2016 6:19:44 PM EDT
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My rem Seven is a great rifle. Its my most used rifle. However, I don't regard it as a long range proposition. It's about a 1.2-2MOA gun, despite years of load development. This is plenty for the typical 25-200 yard shots that abound where I hunt. However, it's not a tack driver. I cannot, with good conscience, recommend any recent Remington.
Furthermore, while its easy to carry, it isn't so easy to shoot. Its less forgiving of position, shooter error etc than a heavier rifle. Finally, the short 20" barrel really cuts velocities down. While mine is in 308, and the 308 can be a decent longer range round, velocity losses make long range bullet expansion dicey. If you want light, look at some of the Kimbers. VERY light... and with 22" and longer barrels. regular Kimber Hunter is about 5.5 lbs, 22" and in 6.5 Creedmore.... I will say this: Avoid Weatherby. I bought a Weatherby Vanguard II Back Country. It would not feed reliably through a magazine full of ammo, and Weatherby had to play games with the warranty work. Furthermore, I can get 3/4" groups all day with both a used Savage Hog Hunter in .223 with a $150 red field 3-9X scope, and a used Ruger .300 Blackout with a similarly cheap old used bushnell 2-7x. However, the Vanguard with Warne rings and bases and a Leupold VXIII 2.5-8x and later a Weaver SuperSlam 3-15X wouldn't shoot better than 2" at 10 yards off a rest. And this is with not less than about 12 different types of premium ammo. Weatherby again seems to want to play games with warranty work.... |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 8:51:38 AM EDT
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Interesting; I got very frustrated with my Model 7 at first as I was getting 2-2.5 MOA groups with several powder/bullet combinations and was thinking about moving it on. I was shooting with a friend who has a 6.5x55. His pet load was Varget with a 140gr GameKing and he suggested I try the same; I loaded up some with that combo for myself, checked zero and put the next 3 rounds into a 7/8" group at 100yds - all of a sudden life was good again. I would not hesitate to shoot 3-350 with a solid position. He has a Model 7 in 350Mag that is a very fine shooter as well. It seems to be a rifle that is capable but finicky.
Do you reload? (sounds like you do) If so I might be tempted to keep at it, there may well yet be a combo out there you rifle will like better as well. Although at 1.2MOA I wouldn't feel bad for a hunting rifle. As for a new one - yeah, I do understand your concern. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 8:59:15 AM EDT
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I think you already arrived at the best answer- Tikka.
I would certainly jump on a closeout priced T3 (steel recoil lugs are cheap to do yourself). A more difficult choice is optics (not necessarily scope but spotting scope and binos). |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 8:59:39 AM EDT
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Has Ruger QC improved that much (on their rifles at least)? Last time I seriously considered one the M77 was getting all sorts of bad press over horrendous barrels that shot poorly and fouled like no other. considering thsy have had about four decades to get over the bad batch of rifles, yeah, its pretty much resolved. |
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Posted: 12/20/2016 10:44:40 AM EDT
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I think you already arrived at the best answer- Tikka. I would certainly jump on a closeout priced T3 (steel recoil lugs are cheap to do yourself). A more difficult choice is optics (not necessarily scope but spotting scope and binos). LOL. No shit. I dreamed about bringing home new binoculars last night. Wife was not pleased. Tikka T3X in 7mm with a Leupold VX3i 4.5-14X40 side focus is our next rifle. Light, powerful, decent optics. All for around $1000. |
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Posted: 12/22/2016 1:36:07 PM EDT
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Tikka T3 Lite in 300 WM. Custom Muzzle Break, Limbsaver Recoil Pad, some other custom parts and work by Mountain Tactical. Barely any recoil. Took this little guy at 340 yards, and shoots really nice. I would highly recommend. 
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Posted: 12/23/2016 10:16:01 AM EDT
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No personal experience with the Tikkas, but in general I'm leery of light rifles in magnum calibers from a recoil standpoint.
Tikka is a good choice though, the question is how far are you expecting to shoot? 7mm-08 comes in a variety of short action light, handy rifles including the Tikka and has decent ballistics. Not much practical difference between it, the 308 and others. And, nothing wrong with your 243 either as far as that goes. Can't imagine there would be that much weight savings between that and a Tikka? |
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Posted: 12/30/2016 10:03:14 PM EDT
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For a cheaper option I'd look at a Tikka T3 in the caliber of your choice. If you want one of the best light weight rifles on the market without going full custom, I'd take a long look at Weatherby Mark V Ultra Light Weight.
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Posted: 1/1/2017 12:08:08 PM EDT
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For a cheaper option I'd look at a Tikka T3 in the caliber of your choice. If you want one of the best light weight rifles on the market without going full custom, I'd take a long look at Weatherby Mark V Ultra Light Weight. I have a savage model 16 in 300 wsm. Not a ultra light rifle but about as light as I would want to go for a magnum cartridge. With the savage I can shoot a box of ammo without getting a black and blue shoulder. It starts to wear on me after about 10 rounds but I can still shoot it accurately till the high teens before the consistent recoil bothers me enough to start to pull shots. No break so its not supper loud for hunting. I would like to try the savage breaks that turn off and on. Same POI but you could shoot all day at range with it on and then turn it off when hunting. |
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Posted: 1/2/2017 4:41:21 PM EDT
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@cms81586
What rifle, cartridge, scope did you pick? How did the hunt go??? Edited to add: Nevermind! I found the AAR thread. 
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Posted: 1/2/2017 4:52:31 PM EDT
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@cms81586 What rifle, cartridge, scope did you pick? How did the hunt go??? Ended up taking the .338 Lapua TRG-42 the last few times out. Been on sheep 3 times with one being within shooting range. Missed due to my own stupid mistake. I'll bag one before the tag expires. Bought one of the Walmart $199 clearance .30-06 Ruger American Rifles and mounted a scope on it recently. Need to go zero it and then see how it does on the range before I trust it. Also have the SCAR back from FN with a repaired crown so if it shoots well that's another option. This year was sort of rushed so next year I think I've decided on a 6.5x55 Tikka T3x and some variant of Vortex scope. AAR here from the last few times out. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_2/687783_Barbary-sheep-hunt-AAR---.html  Attached File |
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