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Posted: 4/2/2012 3:53:10 PM
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The deal was too good to pass up for a Stainless A-bolt no boss. Being a lefty plays a lot into my Bolt gun buying impluses. I plan on using it for Elk hunting and possibly mule deer. Do you folks have any advice on loads? I'm not quite set up for reloading so retail is my go to at the moment. What is the effective range with this rifle? Hunting mostly in Washington state. I'm planning on sighting in at 200 yards. I've put zeiss conquest glass with the duplex sight. I'd like to hear folks real world takes on this cartridge. Someday a Moose or Caribou hunt might be in the cards? Thanks.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 6:55:58 PM
Get a good Limbsaver recoil pad, you'll need it. LOL. Maybe think about compensating the barrel.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 11:53:59 PM
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Originally Posted By dougez1:
Get a good Limbsaver recoil pad, you'll need it. LOL. Maybe think about compensating the barrel.


This.....put a brake on it

You can roll some smoking 180 grain Barnes Triple shocks with a .338 win mag. I'd look at those.

Sold my rifle off (just use 7mm mag now works fine on elk and deer), have some .338 reloading dies I'd sell you for a good deal if interested.

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Posted: 4/3/2012 12:15:07 AM
I've used a 338 Win Mag for over 20 years. I find the recoil (felt recoil) to be less than a 7 Mag or 300 Mag.

My 338 is a Remington 700 stainless mountain rifle with a synthetic stock. The scope is a Leupold 3-9x compact.

I've always had two "go to" loads, a 250 grain Nosler Partition bullet with 4831 powder is my main load, but I also use the 200 grain Nosler ballistic tip for deer.

I'm lucky in that my rifle shoots both loads to nearly the same POI at 100 yards.

And don't pay any attention to folks who say "it's too much gun" or that it will "blow a deer in half". It is a VERY effective caliber, but no more damaging than anything else from about 270 Win on up.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 12:45:22 AM
Had one years back.. muzzle break it.. for ones and 2 shot days it would nt be needed
But it made my range days alot better...
ammo was cheap back then 10 years ago or so...
wish i still had it but i found it over kill for my application
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Posted: 4/3/2012 1:31:40 AM
For less felt recoil, more economical ammunition, and wider range of bullet choices I would go with 375 H&H over 338.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 4:11:48 AM
Browning A-Bolt Medallion - bought in 1994 - KDF brake - with 235's I can shoot five into one hole at 110 meters - free floated barrel and changed trigger springs - I love the .338!
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Posted: 4/4/2012 7:30:42 PM
Originally Posted By sakotrg24:
For less felt recoil, more economical ammunition, and wider range of bullet choices I would go with 375 H&H over 338.

I dont agree with 2 out of three ammo is quite expensive for an H&H and there are tons of bullet choices for anything you would ever shoot in the 338 diameter. Even brass for a H&H is more. and .375 bullets are more so reloading is not cheaper either. Wally world in our town stocks 338 but no luck on the 375. 375 are awsome but are not cheaper than a 338.

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Posted: 4/5/2012 11:55:32 AM
So do I sight in at 200? I'm a decent enough marksman to shoot out to 350 yards with my .30-06. I've taken mule deer out to that distance. I'll use the .338 primarily for Elk hunting. I sighted this rifle in on Sunday and it shot a small group using Federal 225gr Fusions at 100 yards.about 3inches high. It will be a few weeks before I get to a longer range facility.

I'm not interested in .375 H&H as I'll most likely never go to Africa.
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:08:25 PM
Do not put a muzzle brake on that rifle. You will regret it if you take a shot without hearing protection and you may not be able to find a guide willing to take you hunting.

Buy a Limbsaver maxi-pad for range days, zeroing and practice. One or two shots at game, the recoil won't bother you.
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Posted: 4/11/2012 12:30:04 PM
Originally Posted By 1MAC:
Do not put a muzzle brake on that rifle. You will regret it if you take a shot without hearing protection and you may not be able to find a guide willing to take you hunting.

Buy a Limbsaver maxi-pad for range days, zeroing and practice. One or two shots at game, the recoil won't bother you.


Agreed.

I will not hunt with anyone who has a muzzle break on their firearm as they are brutal on hearing. My good friend had a Browning A-bolt with the BOSS in .243Win and that thing hurt my ears to no end while we were out coyote hunting. Hunting rifles just don't need them. Target rifles are a different story.

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Posted: 5/8/2012 4:32:15 PM
Originally Posted By Gunrinwa:
So do I sight in at 200? I'm a decent enough marksman to shoot out to 350 yards with my .30-06. I've taken mule deer out to that distance. I'll use the .338 primarily for Elk hunting. I sighted this rifle in on Sunday and it shot a small group using Federal 225gr Fusions at 100 yards.about 3inches high. It will be a few weeks before I get to a longer range facility.

I'm not interested in .375 H&H as I'll most likely never go to Africa.


Go play around with THIS for a bit. You should be able to answer your sight in question with it.
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Posted: 5/13/2012 10:43:15 PM
I had the same rifle several years ago. I dropped an elk in its tracks with one round. I had to sell it because I couldn't handle the recoil anymore. It felt like someone hitting me in the shoulder with a baseball bat. My recommendation is to use the lightest grain bullet you can find until you get get a brake put on the rifle.
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Posted: 5/23/2012 9:54:42 PM
I have been using a 338 WM for over forty years now and have never looked back. I have an 'older' M70 that the barrel has been cut to 20" and a B&C stock on it. Over the years I have shot most bullet weights from 175 Barnes to some old time 300grain FMJ. I do not feel that the recoil is that bad and have been known to shoot 20-25 rounds at a time with little side effects. As far as the effect on game has gone, I have never lost an animal. I did have an 'issue' with some old time Sierra 250's doing a lot of damage but some of that was shot placement, square in the shoulder. I have gone back to 225 grain bullets but hope to be able to find a good load for the 185 Barnes. I have seen the Seirra has come out with a 225 and that could be fun to work up a load for.
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Posted: 5/30/2012 3:08:50 AM
My first centerfire rifle, was a .338 Win Mag, and I shot it as often as possible. I was not even a teenager, when I received it. I have shot most of the available loads though it, without a muzzle brake, and experienced good accuracy.. I understand some desire muzzle devices to aid in recoil reduction, but for hunting applications, I prefer not to have any such devices. For me, the recoil does not slow me down too much for repetitive follow-up shots, even though a brake might speed them up further.

For hunting, my and my hunting buddies ability to hear, is far more important than the diminutive recoil of the .338. It is NOT that bad, and even now with many injuries, surgeries, and whatnot, the recoil still is not bad. Proper shooting technique is the key. Of course, my .338 is also one of my mild recoiling weapons, since I mainly shoot big-bores, and dangerous game rifles. Beyond a Win Mag, and stepping up into a Lapua, a muzzle brake becomes more necessary. If it is to be used for hunting, I do not recommend a brake, but for shooting from a bench, it may allow you to shoot more comfortably. I do not know the specs of the rifle in question, but many of the Browning rifles are reasonably light-weight, so only you can be the judge of your experience, tolerance, ability and perhaps most importantly:Your personal preference.

Zeiss is a good optic, and 200 yards is a normal/ popular distance for zeroing the setup. If you prefer something more specific: Input your load information into a decent ballistic calculator program, and set the +/- MPBR (Maximum Point Blank Range) for whatever the vitals radius of the game you wish to pursue. Many hunters go with a 3 to 4" vital radius, which yields a decently long zero, that should be well over 200 yards. However, for simplicity, 200 yards is a good distance.

In terms of game,........Anything in North America it will be more than sufficient for. Even the great bears are routinely hunted with 338 WM. In Africa, it is a great cartridge for plains game up to Eland. Some areas allow it for lion, others do not. It is a great round for leopard. The larger thick-skinned members of the big-five have been taken with it, with proper bullet selection, but it is no longer legal in most areas for use on elephant, cape buffalo, and rhinoceros. For thin-skinned dangerous game (large predators) it is an excellent cartridge. In the North woods of the US, in pursuit of the aforementioned moose and bison, as long as you do your part, it will smack them with good authority. Most guides will suggest a preferred minimum caliber, but had rather a person shoot a lesser cartridge well, than a larger cartridge poorly. So if you become fluent and proficient with the .338, there is nothing you will not be able to take, if necessary.

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Posted: 6/3/2012 1:40:30 AM
You have made a very good choice in both rifle and cartridge.

I also hunt in Washington State for elk and bear. The .338 does well for both.

Where are you hunting? Most of my experience in WA is at comparatively short range and rarely have I shot at game over 100 yards.

Select tough bullets that penetrate well and you will be happy.

Enjoy.
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Posted: 6/7/2012 2:49:28 PM
I have had a .338 Ruger 77 for 20 years or so. It is primarily my elk rifle but I have taken many deer with it. I shoot 250 grain noslers and have never lost an animal. The recoil is stiff but not unmanageable and I still have the factory red pad on it. I do not think a hunting rifle should ever have a break or ports. One shot without hearing protection and you could have lifelong hearing damage.
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Posted: 6/7/2012 5:59:47 PM
We have three 338WM's and would not trade them for anything. The wife has a Savage 116 stainless with composit stock that she really likes. It might be noisy to shoot but I have not have any issues with it. I have two Winchester M70's, that are perrty much stock weapons. My old one, 1970 purchase, has been my 'go to' rifle forever or so it seems. For quite a while I shot the 175 Barnes X and was pleased with it. But they changed the bullet and could not get the new ones to group well. I went to the 225 and it does well. I am plating with the newer M70 and hope to be able to find a good load for the Barnes 185. As a back up I can always go to the Sierra's and not have any problems. Being that I reolad, I can taylor my loads to fit what I want to do. With the older M70, I have shot over a box at a time with little side effects.
Have fun working up loads and enjoy what the caliber will do.
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Posted: 6/18/2012 3:11:03 PM
Well, I've started working up some loads with 215gr Sierra Gamekings using H4350. I've yet to see which ones gr/COAL shoot the best, but I was on another reloading forum and for some reason the 215's called for me to buy them. I sighted my rifle in 3inches high at 100 yards with the Federal Fusions 225gr, but at >$50/box, I didn't want to keep that up too long. I'm going to pick up some Hornady 200gr SST to try out as well. I hope to have some pictures of the groups to share.
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Posted: 7/8/2012 3:41:48 PM
Shoot only at distances you know you can hit on accurately/competently and know your limitations.
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