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Posted: 5/13/2017 10:00:22 AM EDT
I have two areas on my place that are very steep. Mowing them is somewhere between inconvenient and downright dangerous.
I'd like to find a way to make those areas less maintenance heavy and more useful if possible. Any ideas? Both are about a tenth of an acre and the slope varies from about 20 to 50 degrees (feels like 90) in some spots. One is the back side of a pond dam, and the other is the side of a hill with the top taken off to make a garden area.
USDA climate zone is 7 or 8, and the slopes are facing west and north.
The only serious thoughts I have had so far are grazing goats, or planting some type of fruiting bushes like blueberry on them. Less serious are thoughts about terracing, planting trees, or air dropping roundup on them. All ideas welcome...

-Hobbit
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I have the same thing.  I am thinking about planting pachysandra.  If you want to mow the slopes, get a walk-behind like a Bobcat Ransomes 48" mower.  They're all over Craigslist, and you can get a fairly decent one for not too much money.  They will handle the slopes pretty well.
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ivy.
wildflowers.
berries.
Link Posted: 5/13/2017 10:48:04 AM EDT
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I have some difficult sloped areas around my house. I have had various ground cover in the areas in the past, but recently some kind of fungus has decimated many of the succulent ground covers.  I have undertaken a pretty big project of cleaning it out and replacing it with artificial turf.

This is phase 1.




Link Posted: 5/13/2017 2:07:36 PM EDT
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bush berries
bee forage (wildflowers)
some of that new grass that never needs mowing
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I have some difficult sloped areas around my house. I have had various ground cover in the areas in the past, but recently some kind of fungus has decimated many of the succulent ground covers.  I have undertaken a pretty big project of cleaning it out and replacing it with artificial turf.

This is phase 1.
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Nice job Doc what kind of turf did you use and how is it anchored
Link Posted: 5/13/2017 4:13:23 PM EDT
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Put up fence
Get goat
Watch goat "mow"said slope
Profit
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whoops
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Nice job Doc what kind of turf did you use and how is it anchored
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We did a compacted underlayment of DG and then put hundreds of pounds of sand and about 500 nails to hold it down.

I found a local outfit for the turf. I bought 4 15'x50' rolls at about $1.65 sq. ft

The guy who does my landscaping brought a crew to help.




Phase 2: Is in the works.

Link Posted: 5/13/2017 5:34:32 PM EDT
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very cool
thank you looks great
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oops
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Kudzu.

Seriously, some type of vine , but not kudzu. Hate that stuff.
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I have the same thing.  I am thinking about planting pachysandra.  
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pachysandra is good.  note: you may have to spray it once or twice a year with a fungicide, as pachysandra blight (rust) can really do a number on it in early spring.

also look at a creeping myrtle.  super low maintenance.

ar-jedi





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pachysandra is good.  note: you may have to spray it once or twice a year with a fungicide, as pachysandra blight (rust) can really do a number on it in early spring.

also look at a creeping myrtle.  super low maintenance.

ar-jedi

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Gorgeous !

Much different fawna than what we see out here. Very lush
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 12:40:11 AM EDT
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You could always do buffalo grass if its full sun. It doesn't need mowed very often or you can just let it go and it will only get 6-8" tall. Once its established it only needs 1" of rain a month but if your in a rainy area you might get to much water for it.  There are newer version of buffalo grass that are thicker, darker green, and green up sooner and turn brown later.
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Tie a rope around handle of mower and let it go down the hill then pull it back up?
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Gorgeous !

Much different fawna than what we see out here. Very lush
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pachysandra is good.  note: you may have to spray it once or twice a year with a fungicide, as pachysandra blight (rust) can really do a number on it in early spring.

also look at a creeping myrtle.  super low maintenance.

ar-jedi

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Gorgeous !

Much different fawna than what we see out here. Very lush
he has rain.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 8:15:50 AM EDT
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that's convenient when its 2/10s of an acre.
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 12:40:17 PM EDT
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OP, what would be wrong with turning that into mini woodlands?  Why is that "less serious?"

Depending on where you are, you could potentially make use of a wooded area for all kinds of things that would include potential food crops, and even if you don't harvest from it, there is a significant advantage to having wooded areas on any property, not only including resale value.  A major benefit is plain old enjoyment.

"What value is a tree?"  It's a lot like asking "What value is a dog?"  

The benefits are not monetary in many instances, but they are there.

Wooded areas require not just three trees, but a bunch of trees, and the environment you create when you allow one of these areas to thrive on your property will benefit you in a lot of ways.  
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Well, I'd love to plant trees (like another orchard, maybe) but there are about 90 acres of woodland on the property already, so more trees aren't really a boon like they would be on a smaller or less wooded property.
The other trouble with anything that would grow over about 6 feet tall is that they would pose a security issue in one spot (would obscure a line of sight for a road) and they would prevent me from seeing critters in my garden in the other spot.
Now, you did bring to mind planting true dwarf fruit trees for me- I need to research those trees and see how big they really get...
Thanks for the ideas so far-
-Hobbit
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@ar-jedi How long did it take your pachysandra to establish?
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i would say it was fully established in 2-3 years, and after that it's expanding radially (or trying to).  ensure the topsoil is decent quality.  place each pachysandra plant about 8" apart.  keep them wet initially but watch for fungus if planting in the springtime.  the fungicide for pachysandra blight is very effective(*); spray liberally (soak the leaves to point that it's dripping) and generally you will want to repeat about a week later.  it's especially important to keep the rust off new plantings, as fighting the fungus very much weakens their ability to grow and spread.  during establishment, twice per year with a sprinkling of 5-10-5.  once the plants start to spread and density increases, pachysandra is pretty much hands off.  again, just treat for fungus in wet springtime perhaps an annual 5-10-5 dose.  

ar-jedi


2012 after we built the walls







2014



2015



2016  here is an example of how they are planted in a new area



2017




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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Daconil-16-oz-Concentrate-Fungicide-100047758/202268570

http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/your-garden/help-for-the-home-gardener/advice-tips-resources/pests-and-problems/diseases/fungal-spots/volutella-blight.aspx
http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/factsheets/pachysandraleafblight.pdf
Link Posted: 5/14/2017 1:05:06 PM EDT
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Robotic lawn mower ?
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You could always do buffalo grass if its full sun. It doesn't need mowed very often or you can just let it go and it will only get 6-8" tall. Once its established it only needs 1" of rain a month but if your in a rainy area you might get to much water for it.  There are newer version of buffalo grass that are thicker, darker green, and green up sooner and turn brown later.
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Came here to suggest buffalo grass.  I have the Turfalo variety, I have let it go several months without mowing and it only ends up around the 8" tall range mentioned.  It looks like a prairie grass at that height, as you might expect.  

I can turn off the sprinklers to the grass only zones for a large part of the growing season but do get better looking grass with irrigation.  

It is slow growing, so takes a while to fill in and you will be fighting weeds during that time before it gets thick.
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Liriope 
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yup, like R2D2 with a belly mower.
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 9:53:37 AM EDT
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ETA: Is the high P application specific to your area?
Or is that specific to the pachysandra?  (Perhaps for the phosphorus boost in resistance to fungi?)
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ETA: Is the high P application specific to your area?
Or is that specific to the pachysandra?  (Perhaps for the phosphorus boost in resistance to fungi?)
for better or for worse, i'm thinking that phosphorus is helping with early root development.

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By the way...
In that last photo..
I notice that you have a garden overlord present, and, shockingly, one who is even willing to be visible in photographs.
How much of your gardening success would you attribute to the presence of such helpful paranormal beings?
first of all, there are two present in that picture.
they are our ambassadors of Quan(sp?).
e.g.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1995730_.html&page=1&anc=66172667#i66172667

ar-jedi
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