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Posted: 2/1/2017 11:53:39 AM EDT
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Found a video that covers some if the clues there might be after market parts on a OEM saw or built entirely of aftermarket parts.
 How Can You Tell If The Husqvarna You Want To Buy Is....Husqvarna?? |
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Posted: 2/1/2017 1:24:30 PM EDT
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Yep they have Chinese parts for chainsaws just like they have Chinese parts for everything else I used a farmertec (same brand as you are talking ) on my STIHL 026 I rebuilt I used STIHL genuine rubber parts and a crank gasket but bearings piston etc was all China ... why you ask the saw I rebuilt was toast needed everything I bought a kit for $40 has my piston jug muffler all rubber parts (didn't use ) and other crap I just could not justify spending 400+ on genuine STIHL piston and jug yes there is other brands that make better quality stuff but even with STIHL rubber parts and gaskets i still spent 130+ or as much as the saw is worth
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Posted: 2/1/2017 1:59:58 PM EDT
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I have no problem with using aftermarket parts in some applications. Especially if it brings a saw back to a useful state instead of throwing it in a dumpster. The point of this thread is to make people aware that there are people building, or rebuilding saws to flip on eBay or Craigslist and not disclosing that it contains non-OEM parts.
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Posted: 2/1/2017 2:52:17 PM EDT
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Interdasting. I've had saws for 40 years and never knew about this.
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Posted: 2/1/2017 10:13:01 PM EDT
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Interdasting. I've had saws for 40 years and never knew about this. 25 yrs for me and while I figured there were aftermarket parts like any other industry, whole saw kits are news to me. |
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Posted: 2/1/2017 10:45:16 PM EDT
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My BiL is a Stihl dealer and repair center. He's awfully interested in building a 660 now.
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Posted: 2/2/2017 10:28:55 PM EDT
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My BiL is a Stihl dealer and repair center. He's awfully interested in building a 660 now. even blown up completely they still bring huge bucks I wanted even a junk 440 to rebuild I really wanted something to run a chainsaw mill for some personal use but I dont want to spend an arm and leg for something so I will just keep waiting until the right thing comes along |
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Posted: 2/4/2017 5:18:09 PM EDT
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A 660 for under $200 is awful tempting, even if it is a knockoff. Would still probably be better than spending the same on a 50cc Poulan.
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Posted: 2/5/2017 1:03:30 PM EDT
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TAG.
Very interesting. Makes me want to order the 372 kit and start building. I rebuilt my old 372XP a few years ago and just used whatever cheap parts were available. I split the case, replaced all the seals, put new rings on it, the usual tune up stuff etc. I think I put a new cheap carb on it but cant remember now. Ether I put a new kit in the old carb and saved the new one, or put the new carb on it, and saved the old one. Been a few years but it still runs great so far. It was a really tired saw to begin with, used hard of years so I was happy to get some more life out of it. |
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Posted: 2/12/2017 10:33:56 AM EDT
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I'm ordering a MS660 kit from Huztl. Might be fun to see how it holds up. From what I'm finding it should have nylon caged crank bearings replaced with steel caged. Some are saying one side is steel with the newer kits. Should add an OEM intake boot, impulse, fuel lines, chain tensioner.
This is kinda like an 80% AR build. |
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Posted: 2/12/2017 8:32:27 PM EDT
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Keep us updated, with pics preferably.
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Posted: 2/12/2017 8:44:41 PM EDT
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Keep us updated, with pics preferably. Will do, if I remember. Some are saying it can take up to a month to be delivered. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:28:27 AM EDT
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I'm a Stihl dealer and will definitely be looking to trade for a burnt up 660 now for myself!!!
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Posted: 2/13/2017 1:55:59 AM EDT
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I'm ordering a MS660 kit from Huztl. Might be fun to see how it holds up. From what I'm finding it should have nylon caged crank bearings replaced with steel caged. Some are saying one side is steel with the newer kits. Should add an OEM intake boot, impulse, fuel lines, chain tensioner. This is kinda like an 80% AR build. If Hi Point sold AR parts. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 7:09:43 AM EDT
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I'm a Stihl dealer and will definitely be looking to trade for a burnt up 660 now for myself!!! I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the plating of the cylinder. I'm betting a Meteor might be in order at some point. |
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Posted: 2/13/2017 11:10:15 PM EDT
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I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the plating of the cylinder. I'm betting a Meteor might be in order at some point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a Stihl dealer and will definitely be looking to trade for a burnt up 660 now for myself!!! I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the plating of the cylinder. I'm betting a Meteor might be in order at some point. I feel ignorant asking this, but what are you talking about? |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 12:19:02 AM EDT
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I'm a Stihl dealer and will definitely be looking to trade for a burnt up 660 now for myself!!! I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the plating of the cylinder. I'm betting a Meteor might be in order at some point. I feel ignorant asking this, but what are you talking about? I thought you meant you might look at an aftermarket kit to rebuild a burnt up Stihl. Meteor is considered to be on the high end of the aftermarket. Hutzl, low end. |
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Posted: 2/14/2017 9:46:45 AM EDT
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If Hi Point sold AR parts. Actually a automotive reference works better it's like buying a Kia or Daewoo as a mode of transportation grated it's not a GM, Ford etc but it will get you from point A to B Yes they are cheap Chinese parts but dang I have never seen so much hate over crap before when my hutzl kitted STIHL fails then I can address the failure and decide if it's worth fixing with quality parts or cheep parts again |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 11:03:22 PM EDT
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I thought you meant you might look at an aftermarket kit to rebuild a burnt up Stihl. Meteor is considered to be on the high end of the aftermarket. Hutzl, low end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a Stihl dealer and will definitely be looking to trade for a burnt up 660 now for myself!!! I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of the plating of the cylinder. I'm betting a Meteor might be in order at some point. I feel ignorant asking this, but what are you talking about? I thought you meant you might look at an aftermarket kit to rebuild a burnt up Stihl. Meteor is considered to be on the high end of the aftermarket. Hutzl, low end. I'd like to come upon a burnt up 660 and use one of these kits just for my personal use. I'd rarely use it so it'd probably be ok for me. Cheap way to get an expensive saw and if it burns up, no biggy! |
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Posted: 3/8/2017 10:37:39 AM EDT
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Update: Found a group buy, looks like it will be a few more weeks before the 660 clone kit shows up.
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Posted: 3/14/2017 10:41:45 AM EDT
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The two best places to buy a used chainsaw, IMO, are:
- Your trusted local Stihl (or Husky) dealer. - A trusted member over on the Arboristsite.com site. I bought a Stihl MS-440 Magnum years ago off of egay - bad move. It wasn't too many hours in before I had to have the saw rebuilt due to a scored piston and cylinder (read = $$$). Never again. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 9:32:31 PM EDT
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hmmmm...I just bought a used 455 rancher off CL for $250 today...2016 model.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:49:32 AM EDT
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Those kit's are interesting. But op's right some people would pass them off as oem. I think my Stihl ms391 would be just as good if it was made in China. Low oiling gutless wonder. I'm glad I was able to rebuild my husky 51. After playing with it for a few weeks now I'm not really happy. I almost wish I'd found a used rebuildable saw.
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:52:34 AM EDT
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hmmmm...I just bought a used 455 rancher off CL for $250 today...2016 model. I wouldn't worry about a China marked carb since they are all made there anyway. My 1997 55 has an OEM carb marked China. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:59:46 AM EDT
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Those kit's are interesting. But op's right some people would pass them off as oem. I think my Stihl ms391 would be just as good if it was made in China. Low oiling gutless wonder. I'm glad I was able to rebuild my husky 51. After playing with it for a few weeks now I'm not really happy. I almost wish I'd found a used rebuildable saw. I still don't have the 660 clone kit yet. Must have taken the slow boat. |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 11:19:58 PM EDT
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I picked up a couple of 362's from a tree service with stripped plug holes for $50.00. I pulled the cylinder, put in a Save a Plug insert, honed the cylinder and put new rings in the one I got running. Other one is waiting on a carb kit since the crew never changed/cleaned the air filter. It had saw dust in the intake boot. I'm ditching my 391 since I'm in full agreement with your assessment. It's gutless and 2# heavier than the 361/362. I still don't have the 660 clone kit yet. Must have taken the slow boat. |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 11:34:38 AM EDT
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http://www.weedeaterman.com/default.asp
I've purchased from him and got what I wanted, and I used the saw I rebuilt using a head/piston kit I got from him this weekend. He's also the most recommended parts supplier on arboristsite.com which is where I got the information to rebuild my saw.....they are the ar15.com of chainsaws...... I only mention it because y'all were talking about aftermarket cyls and pistons for your knock-off builds (not being condescending here......would be a cheap way to really learn your chainsaw, if nothing else). |
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Posted: 6/8/2017 11:26:12 PM EDT
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China 660 clone parts showed up today. I haven't had a chance to check out the parts since we are getting ready for the HTF shoot on Sat. Next week is All-Star practice and our final regular season games. July might be the first look.
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Posted: 7/19/2017 9:06:26 AM EDT
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With All Star and 4-H commitments I haven't had a chance to dig into this. Hopefully soon.
There is a forum on Rice burner builds here: http://opeforum.com/forums/sub-forum-for-these-rice-burner-660-builds.112/ I'm looking forward to getting this thing built. |
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