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Kitties, The pics were taken at the end of the day, and the light was a little weak. I top-dressed all the beds with almost pure black kow a few weeks ago and tilled it in. CC, Yes, the Black Kow is composted cow manure (see below). I have used it the last few years with excellent results, even without residual fertilizer. I may be seeing some residual negatives from trying the wood chip mulch last year, although I removed most of it at the end of the season. http://blackkow.com/_html/howitsmade.htm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. Kitties, The pics were taken at the end of the day, and the light was a little weak. I top-dressed all the beds with almost pure black kow a few weeks ago and tilled it in. CC, Yes, the Black Kow is composted cow manure (see below). I have used it the last few years with excellent results, even without residual fertilizer. I may be seeing some residual negatives from trying the wood chip mulch last year, although I removed most of it at the end of the season. http://blackkow.com/_html/howitsmade.htm If you've got Black Kow on there, it ought to be countering that. Probably just the low light making the plants look too pale. |
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Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? |
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A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? That's why I posted compost in quotes. Most of what we buy as "compost", especially bagged stuff at the big box stores, isn't close to being finished compost. That's why I always sift the "compost" I buy through 1/4" mesh. Some of it ends up being 30-50% wood chips, which will definitely suck up nitrogen. To me, finished compost should have a very small particle size, like silt, with very few to no pieces that can be identified as anything other than composted organic matter. That's the good stuff. |
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That's why I posted compost in quotes. Most of what we buy as "compost", especially bagged stuff at the big box stores, isn't close to being finished compost. That's why I always sift the "compost" I buy through 1/4" mesh. Some of it ends up being 30-50% wood chips, which will definitely suck up nitrogen. To me, finished compost should have a very small particle size, like silt, with very few to no pieces that can be identified as anything other than composted organic matter. That's the good stuff. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? That's why I posted compost in quotes. Most of what we buy as "compost", especially bagged stuff at the big box stores, isn't close to being finished compost. That's why I always sift the "compost" I buy through 1/4" mesh. Some of it ends up being 30-50% wood chips, which will definitely suck up nitrogen. To me, finished compost should have a very small particle size, like silt, with very few to no pieces that can be identified as anything other than composted organic matter. That's the good stuff. I agree. That's very hard to find though. We have a university leaf mulching program here. It was one of the pioneer programs in the country--all the city's leaves go out there each season, and get piled and composted. The man that started that program was one of my advisors in grad school, and it was AMAZING. After he retired, I went a few years ago to get a truck load (you could get your pickup piled high--it was WAY more than a regular "scoop" for $30. ) Brought it home to put on my landscaping beds. It was the biggest mess I've ever seen. ends of boards still intact--just blackened by the process...and I got beds full of oats and grass. The compost was full of seeds, and if they'd kept it hot enough, and turned enough, those should have been killed. I've never been back, and I'm really disappointed for the sake of Dr. Schneider, who was truly a genius for coming up with that win-win for the city and the citizens. Basically the people they hired to take care of it, without him there, don't care. The quality of production for compost like that is everything, and I have seldom found commercial compost done the way I think it should be. |
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A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. |
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I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. That is kind of my approach. I only use organic pest controls because they are more than sufficient for me. But when it comes to fertility, I am making a point to reduce my use of both synthetic and organic fertilizers. Over time, garden soil will become better each year through the use of compost, mulch, animal manures, and green manures which will ultimately save me money on buying fertilizers like Miracle Gro, blood, bone, and kelp meals, fish emulsion and liquid seaweed. |
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I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. That's my approach too. Try to keep the pesticides/fungicides at the absolute minimum, but I am not going to go strictly organic. It's too frustrating at this point. |
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That is kind of my approach. I only use organic pest controls because they are more than sufficient for me. But when it comes to fertility, I am making a point to reduce my use of both synthetic and organic fertilizers. Over time, garden soil will become better each year through the use of compost, mulch, animal manures, and green manures which will ultimately save me money on buying fertilizers like Miracle Gro, blood, bone, and kelp meals, fish emulsion and liquid seaweed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think the organic compost component in your planting mix is robbing the media of nitrogen. (say so if you don't know why and I will explain) You need to add a little fertilizer to your beds, if the pics render the color accurately. Not so much the compost, but it looks like some of the wood chip mulch got mixed in with the soil. That would be less than ideal and is something I think we were discussing in this thread last year. Actual compost wouldn't tie up nitrogen, but some of the crap that gets passed off as "compost" would. Ratling, is Black Kow composted manure? My local Lowes and Home Depot don't seem to carry it. A lot of compost is actually more mulch grade, and the big pieces will suck the nitrogen out of the soil. But if he's got Black Kow on there, it ought to counter that, assuming there hasn't been enough rain/water to leach it. ETA: Ratling are you attempting to go with organic growing methods--meaning no synthetic chemicals? I am not going strictly for organic. That being said if something is organic,works well, and is reasonably priced, I will pick it over other options. I figure even if I hit it with pesticides occasionally, it's probably still seen less chemicals then most grocery store produce. That is kind of my approach. I only use organic pest controls because they are more than sufficient for me. But when it comes to fertility, I am making a point to reduce my use of both synthetic and organic fertilizers. Over time, garden soil will become better each year through the use of compost, mulch, animal manures, and green manures which will ultimately save me money on buying fertilizers like Miracle Gro, blood, bone, and kelp meals, fish emulsion and liquid seaweed. Yep. They call that stuff black gold for a reason. |
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I had the same idea today about using cattle panels for my tomato cages. I have seen a lot on concrete remesh cages but i can only find 150' rolls for over $110. I think that i will cut two panels into 6' lengths and set them up 2 feet apart. Then i will use bamboo poles to act as horizontal braces between the panels. I have 13 tomatoes in the ground now and three more on order. They are all indeterminates soni figure this will be cheaper than but two 4' cages x 13 (already have 6 cages). I already use the cattle panels for my cucumber and bean trellises. Hope it works well for you too.
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Do you harvest leaves from your spinach as you need it or cut the whole plant when they get large?
I ask because my spinach plants never get that big. I cut them back to 2 or 3 leaves every few days. They grow fast enough that when I am ready for more I can just repeat the process. It also keeps the leaves from getting too big and tough since each leaf only gets to grow for a short period before being harvested. |
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I had the same idea today about using cattle panels for my tomato cages. I have seen a lot on concrete remesh cages but i can only find 150' rolls for over $110. I think that i will cut two panels into 6' lengths and set them up 2 feet apart. Then i will use bamboo poles to act as horizontal braces between the panels. I have 13 tomatoes in the ground now and three more on order. They are all indeterminates soni figure this will be cheaper than but two 4' cages x 13 (already have 6 cages). I already use the cattle panels for my cucumber and bean trellises. Hope it works well for you too. View Quote Thanks! Good luck with yours as well! |
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Do you harvest leaves from your spinach as you need it or cut the whole plant when they get large? I ask because my spinach plants never get that big. I cut them back to 2 or 3 leaves every few days. They grow fast enough that when I am ready for more I can just repeat the process. It also keeps the leaves from getting too big and tough since each leaf only gets to grow for a short period before being harvested. View Quote Not currently but I probably should. |
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We enjoy komatsuna - I have a red variety in my indoor kratky setup: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg</a> Finally found a way to grown the asian greens we enjoy without the flea beetles decimating them! View Quote Wow, that looks amazing! Do you usually just eat it as a fresh green in salads? It is a new plant for me this year so any insight is appreciated. I learned last year I can get many things to grow in our summer, but they end up bitter. Broccoli, lettuce, even cucumbers end up bitter as hell once it gets a bit warm. This year I have branched out into alternatives that should be able to take it without getting bitter, such as suyo long for the cucumbers. With greens I am trying a number of alternatives to see if I can find things that grow better here, and to expand my palette. |
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Quoted: Wow, that looks amazing! Do you usually just eat it as a fresh green in salads? It is a new plant for me this year so any insight is appreciated. I learned last year I can get many things to grow in our summer, but they end up bitter. Broccoli, lettuce, even cucumbers end up bitter as hell once it gets a bit warm. This year I have branched out into alternatives that should be able to take it without getting bitter, such as suyo long for the cucumbers. With greens I am trying a number of alternatives to see if I can find things that grow better here, and to expand my palette. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: We enjoy komatsuna - I have a red variety in my indoor kratky setup: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg</a> Finally found a way to grown the asian greens we enjoy without the flea beetles decimating them! Wow, that looks amazing! Do you usually just eat it as a fresh green in salads? It is a new plant for me this year so any insight is appreciated. I learned last year I can get many things to grow in our summer, but they end up bitter. Broccoli, lettuce, even cucumbers end up bitter as hell once it gets a bit warm. This year I have branched out into alternatives that should be able to take it without getting bitter, such as suyo long for the cucumbers. With greens I am trying a number of alternatives to see if I can find things that grow better here, and to expand my palette. |
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Wow, that looks amazing! Do you usually just eat it as a fresh green in salads? It is a new plant for me this year so any insight is appreciated. I learned last year I can get many things to grow in our summer, but they end up bitter. Broccoli, lettuce, even cucumbers end up bitter as hell once it gets a bit warm. This year I have branched out into alternatives that should be able to take it without getting bitter, such as suyo long for the cucumbers. With greens I am trying a number of alternatives to see if I can find things that grow better here, and to expand my palette. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We enjoy komatsuna - I have a red variety in my indoor kratky setup: <a href="http://s213.photobucket.com/user/kallnojoy/media/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/kallnojoy/P1030674_zpsmymdsxdc.jpg</a> Finally found a way to grown the asian greens we enjoy without the flea beetles decimating them! Wow, that looks amazing! Do you usually just eat it as a fresh green in salads? It is a new plant for me this year so any insight is appreciated. I learned last year I can get many things to grow in our summer, but they end up bitter. Broccoli, lettuce, even cucumbers end up bitter as hell once it gets a bit warm. This year I have branched out into alternatives that should be able to take it without getting bitter, such as suyo long for the cucumbers. With greens I am trying a number of alternatives to see if I can find things that grow better here, and to expand my palette. Thanks! And Yes - makes for a great addition to a salad, especially when harvested young. Fill the same niche as spinach would. As it gets older, its a bit more like a cabbage and we also use it in soups or broths... i even boil it in with Ramen like I would do with baby bok choy. |
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Looking good!
How do the broccoli and carrots taste in the spring compared to a fall/winter crop? And those onions look great! I'll bring the grill if you got something to slice one with |
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Looking good! How do the broccoli and carrots taste in the spring compared to a fall/winter crop? And those onions look great! I'll bring the grill if you got something to slice one with View Quote Thanks! The broccoli and carrots that just came out tasted just like fall-harvested. Last summer I tried the broccoli variety sunking mid-summer and it tasted very bitter even though it grew perfectly fine. Grilled onions sound pretty good! I am really pleased with how big they are getting. |
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I like those Gypsy peppers. They are a lot more productive than the larger bells for me and they produce in the extreme heat of our summer. I bought the Gypsies as plants last year and liked them so much I tracked down some seeds.
Bellafina mini bells also produce well during our heat but they are expensive if you buy them as seedlings from the home improvement stores. I've found other mini bell seeds to try but still haven't been able to locate the Bellafina seeds. |
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I like those Gypsy peppers. They are a lot more productive than the larger bells for me and they produce in the extreme heat of our summer. I bought the Gypsies as plants last year and liked them so much I tracked down some seeds. Bellafina mini bells also produce well during our heat but they are expensive if you buy them as seedlings from the home improvement stores. I've found other mini bell seeds to try but still haven't been able to locate the Bellafina seeds. View Quote Thanks for the info! I am hoping they will work well for me. I mainly bought them because the time to harvest was a lot shorter. Often with the larger bells by the time I start getting peppers the season is more than half over and I either get a month's worth of peppers for a whole season of growing, or I get a huge glut over a few weeks that I then need to process. My aim is to get fresh produce over as long a window as I can, and hopefully these will do that for me. |
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The little black bugs on your asian greens are "flea beetles".
They love asian greens, egg plant, mustards, etc. They are the reason I moved my asian green production in doors under LED. I am trying pyrethrin on my eggplant seedlings (also keeping them under cover) to see if I can get them big enough to survive for a few more weeks - flea beetles usually decline mid summer. Always great to see your updates! |
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The little black bugs on your asian greens are "flea beetles". They love asian greens, egg plant, mustards, etc. They are the reason I moved my asian green production in doors under LED. I am trying pyrethrin on my eggplant seedlings (also keeping them under cover) to see if I can get them big enough to survive for a few more weeks - flea beetles usually decline mid summer. Always great to see your updates! View Quote Thanks for the info! I hadn't seen those before I put out the asian greens - they really do like them. |
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Looks like you could get a good hit on someone with the tromobocino. Never seen one of those before.
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Your garden looks even better than last year!
(I've been on short hours around here, so haven't stopped in, but glad to see it looking so good.) |
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Harvest <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/001-060416_zpsbmuz6fjq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/001-060416_zpsbmuz6fjq.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/002-060416_zps0bl8tlaz.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/002-060416_zps0bl8tlaz.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/003-060416_zps3cooqm5q.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/003-060416_zps3cooqm5q.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/004-061216_zpsrahemdzo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/004-061216_zpsrahemdzo.jpg</a> Suyo long cucumbers. They are spiny, and curled, and odd looking, but wow I peeled one and it was crunchy and not at all bitter, even though it has been in the 90's. If they stay decent I will plant these every year from now on. This also has the first tomato of the season. It's a bit small, and a bit orange, but it's been in the mid-high 90's for the last few weeks so I am happy to get anything. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/007-061716_zpsqh8qwhqq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/007-061716_zpsqh8qwhqq.jpg</a> The beans are coming in nicely. This bag has 5 1/2 lbs of beans! <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/008-061816_zps3vmxwyvu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/008-061816_zps3vmxwyvu.jpg</a> The first taster for the baby tromobocino. Baby is relative as you can see it next to the grocery bag for scale. I will try it and report back to the hive on taste. <a href="http://s1367.photobucket.com/user/ratling87/media/009-061816_zpsm56cp04y.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1367.photobucket.com/albums/r791/ratling87/009-061816_zpsm56cp04y.jpg</a> View Quote So...those spiny cucumbers.....how is the flavor? I'm still in search of something that tastes like the old straight 8s, but has resistance to Downy. |
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So...those spiny cucumbers.....how is the flavor? I'm still in search of something that tastes like the old straight 8s, but has resistance to Downy. View Quote They are very mild and crunchy, but they don't have a bunch of flavor. I would happily use them in a salad with other more flavorful ingredients for cool crunch. Even growing in temperatures of mid-90's I didn't notice any bitterness; I don't know how they compare to straight 8's though. |
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Looks like you could get a good hit on someone with the tromobocino. Never seen one of those before. How is the weather treating you? View Quote Hot, humid, and otherwise resembling a post-game locker room. That being said so far the garden is holding up better than I am. Trombocino's are an old Italian variety - I believe they were used to breed the butternut variety. According to what I read when they are young they make a good zucchini substitute, and when properly aged taste like, well, butternuts. I am crossing my fingers because I keep losing all of my zucchini to svbs and these are supposed to be resistant/unappealing to them. |
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Looks awesome! I'd say that's pretty good for being "neglected" haha
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Looks awesome! I'd say that's pretty good for being "neglected" haha View Quote Thanks! Between the raised beds and automatic watering it's almost like cheating! I have been putting in about 30 minutes once a week for the last few weeks, mostly in harvesting and inspection. I expect that will change once the tomatoes and eggplants really start kicking. |
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The taste test on the immature trombocino's is in! They cook up somewhere between the taste of zucchini and summer squash, and the flesh is dense and consistent, with thin soft skin that does not need peeling. Now if they just survive the FSVB's then I have a summer squash to eat when I want during the garden season, and whatever I don't eat gets automatically turned into a long-keeping winter squash. Wow. I wonder why I haven't heard of these before?
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Well, I have been so busy at work I have barely been out in the garden. I finally spent some time this past weekend to survey the result of my neglect. Here are the results:
Bad The eggplants had been turned to lace by flea beetles - I will try some nematodes for next season, but for now I just pulled them. The cucumbers that started the season so well attracted something that burrowed into each one to grow - NOT good eats. :( I will need to pull the plants at some point when I have time. I am still not getting a decent bell pepper harvest. Nothing seems to be wrong, I am just not getting a lot of peppers. Jalapenos grow great, cayenne and banana grow like gangbusters, just no bells. :( No idea why. Average The string beans hadn't been picked in forever and were ready to come out. I pulled the plants and grabbed the pods that looked old and dry enough to be next year's seeds so all was not lost. The yard-long beans fared somewhat better as they are much faster to pick and process since each one is so long. They are still cranking along with no problems. I have a bunch of tomatillas coming along, but no harvest sized yet. Next year I will need to start them sooner. I only have 2 pumpkins on the tan cheese pumpkin - I think the 16ft bed is about where the fruiting would normally start so if I grow it again I would need to loop it back down the other side of the bed. Good The tomato cages worked fairly well. They would have been better if I had had time to thread the stems through the cage instead of letting them fold down inside which hid a lot of the tomatoes. Still, I am getting enough tomatoes for fresh eating and compared to beans they are quick to pick. The peanuts plants are going like gangbusters, and sweet potatoes are growing over everything. The trombocino squash stopped producing new squashes when I let the first one start to properly mature, but so far it looks like a bumper crop. The mild banana peppers are coming in nicely, and I am leaving the jalapenos to turn red. The pink-eye purple hull peas seem to be a win - the pod stick out from the plants, with long, easy to pick, dak purple pods that can be allowed to dry and shelled for later cooking. They probably would have been better on a trellis but they did okay as free-standing plants. I will probably plant them again sometime. The corn seems to be coming along normally so far and hopefully should be ready to harvest soon. Overall I tried to plan for less garden time with things like winter squash, corn, and peanuts that need less attending and that seems to be working fairly well. The fresh items needed a bit more time than I had - if I had noticed the eggplant issue before the plants were decimated I might have been able to save them for example. |
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[#43]
Bell peppers just don't produce well in high heat. At least that has been my experience. I barely get any production from them until things cool down in the fall. Try Gypsy and Antohi Romanian sweet peppers as hot weather substitutes for bells.
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Bell peppers just don't produce well in high heat. At least that has been my experience. I barely get any production from them until things cool down in the fall. Try Gypsy and Antohi Romanian sweet peppers as hot weather substitutes for bells. View Quote I tried some gypsy's this year - next year I will try the Antohi Romanians. I think you are right and it is the high heat - they start to do pretty well by September but by then the season is almost over. |
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The mini bell peppers also do better than their full size counterparts in high heat conditions but they are small which makes them kind of a pain to use for cooking. They're decent for a snacking pepper though.
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The mini bell peppers also do better than their full size counterparts in high heat conditions but they are small which makes them kind of a pain to use for cooking. They're decent for a snacking pepper though. View Quote I can second this. I have had success with the mini bells this season. I also added a shade cloth that covers part of my garden area. The bell peppers in that area are doing much better. They are also closer to a rock wall so they get shade sooner. |
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I can second this. I have had success with the mini bells this season. I also added a shade cloth that covers part of my garden area. The bell peppers in that area are doing much better. They are also closer to a rock wall so they get shade sooner. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The mini bell peppers also do better than their full size counterparts in high heat conditions but they are small which makes them kind of a pain to use for cooking. They're decent for a snacking pepper though. I can second this. I have had success with the mini bells this season. I also added a shade cloth that covers part of my garden area. The bell peppers in that area are doing much better. They are also closer to a rock wall so they get shade sooner. Thanks guys! |
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[#48]
The peppers are finally starting to kick - I have some mini baby bells from a previous recommendation that are ramping up, some sweet bananas and some popsickle sweet bells. They are finally starting to look like something - as usual I am losing a lot to something that bores into the top to feed and grow. Looking at the garden going to seed this year from inattention got me to thinking though - they are all hybrids. If I could stick with a single heirloom that did well in my area, then select from the best peppers each year, I should end up with something that is suited to my micro-climate. I may be a pipe-dream - I am not planning on isolating individual flowers and going around with paint brushes, just taking the best from each year's crop. As long as I stick with 1 kind of pepper, or at least put them on opposite sides of the garden, it shouldn't do too badly (I hope). With that though I am going to try the antohi's I think next year - they are suited to the heat, thick-walled, and heirloom. As with any gardening experiment, we will see how it goes.
Also on next year's potential heirloom and save seeds experiment: Aunt Mary's Sweet Corn potato onion Experimenting with seed-saving this year: Trombocino squash tan cheese pumpkin pink eye purple-hull cowpeas Sadly, the mellow yellow beans to not appear to be heirloom. I will need to hunt for another brightly colored, prolific, filette-type bush bush to take their place if I want to save seeds for that. |
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Playing catch up.
Beautiful produce! Love seeing your successes and learning of your "less than perfect" results. No failures if we learn from them. Will watch for your tomato results from the Early Girl seeds. Guessing you'll get a parent, but I don't know the genealogy for that variety. |
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