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Posted: 7/19/2016 11:55:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/20/2016 12:03:27 AM EDT
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Just get a couple of BioLite stoves and some USB cables to charge shit. Problem solved and will weigh a shit load less. You can do what you want with 18650 or 26650 batteries and just carry a lot of them.
Link Posted: 7/20/2016 12:45:31 AM EDT
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There's was a great tutorial that I had bookmarked, where the guy made a great battery box/charging station using a Pelican case, but the link is dead.

If you look through my post of CPF, there are some good ideas.  Look for Norm's power box, for ideas, on page 2.  Norm passed away last summer, so he can't comment any longer.

Solar systems and power boxes...

You seem handy, so it's not really a difficult project if you have the tools and space.  I'm using 22Ah and 12Ah 12v mother batteries with my solar charger, which is fine for mine needs during hurricane season.

Bigger batteries will weigh more, a lot more, but you can get a 110Ah Concorde Sun Xtender and throw a party.

Chris
Link Posted: 7/20/2016 11:31:14 AM EDT
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I set up a small 12v battery for a kayak fish finder.

I used a small plastic Plano ammo can.  Took it to a battery shop and picked out the largest 12v sealed battery that would fit. Turned out to be a 12v 15ah battery. I wired it with an automotive fuse and ran the wire thru a hole I drilled in the lid, sealed with clear silicone.

Works like a champ and the connector I used mates with a Battery Tender brand trickle charger for overnight charging.

You could easily add a cigarette lighter outlet, and plug in any type of car charger to that.
Link Posted: 7/20/2016 12:33:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2016 12:46:15 PM EDT
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Thanks guys!  I didn't think of the kayak crew using these for their fish finders and lights but a quick Google search found many other examples.  I hope to work on this over the weekend.
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Academy sells a small 12v 7ah battery intended for deer feeders, it's $20.

Link Posted: 7/20/2016 12:57:30 PM EDT
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Iceshanty.com has a dyi section that guys have made some really neat boxes, some out of plastic ammo boxes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2016 9:42:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Here's my 12 volt power supply and charger.



It has 4 large AGM batteries. 105 AH
















My charger is tri fuel and here it is running on propane.




The GM alternator is a 92 amp.






Here is the solar panels stored with the charger and battery backup unit I would use to charge the batteries if needed.

Link Posted: 7/21/2016 9:51:59 PM EDT
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Nice setup RR, but somehow...I don't think that's what the Cub Scout troop, or the OP, is looking for!

Chris
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 3:51:36 AM EDT
[#9]
I ran across this a couple of days ago.

http://www.gad.net/Blog/2015/10/17/the-yellow-box-of-power/

Link Posted: 7/22/2016 4:06:51 AM EDT
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I ran across this a couple of days ago.

http://www.gad.net/Blog/2015/10/17/the-yellow-box-of-power/
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Very nice, but heavy at 50# and that solar panel lists for $300+, so it's a spendy project the way it is.

Thanks for the link.

Chris
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 4:24:36 AM EDT
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I made a trailer light tester out of a 50 cal can and an sla battery. It has a trailer plug and cig lighter socket.  I've used it for lights during a power outage.  Version 2.0 will have an led light built in.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 6:27:39 AM EDT
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Get a auto jump box.  I've got one that has a 12v cigarette connector, son has one with USB connector built it. They can be charged and do double duty as emergency car starter without jumper cables.
Link Posted: 7/22/2016 9:02:38 AM EDT
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not a response to Quarterbore's original question... but after the 2004/2005 hurricane season (9 day outage in 2004) I wanted to  upgrade my 12v system for fans and TV from a 12v receptacle on battery clip leads,....and after one of the earlier threads built the KISS system shown... a 12v receptacle bolted to the negative terminal, in line fuse... (positive terminal is normally covered)...I did away with the battery box, as I had problems with them on the boat... and the carry handle works well... kept on a float charger as the terminals are easy access....luckily no major storms since its build

Link Posted: 7/22/2016 12:05:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2016 2:07:32 PM EDT
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I spent a bit of money getting mine set up, but am happy with it. I used powerfilm 20 watt panel, a 10 amp hour 12 volt battery from smart-battery, expensive but very lightweight, lots of recharge cycles and built in overcharge protection. I use anderson power poles for attaching and charging different items. I've used the RAV power packs and Goal Zero battery charger. I have a Pelican case I can carry this in with a port and cover for a lightweight inverter. It all breaks down and configures any way I want. If I'm going lightweight I just take the solar panel and Goal Zero charger. For car camping, travel or storm shelter visits I connect everything together in my pelican case.
Link Posted: 7/23/2016 4:52:57 PM EDT
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I have wanted to build an alternator charging system like this for quite a few years.  I do have two big 110AH Deep Cycle Marine batteries hooked up to battery tenders and I have the various connectors with that kit to do the same kind of thing I want to do with this small kit - IE 12v Car Adapter with USB hookups as well as 12v LED rope light and DC/AC Inverters.

As for the suggestion to use a jump box, I have one of those as well.  The issue there is the one I have is pretty darned heavy for scouts and tent camping.  I could bring it and leave it in the truck but those batteries are a robust motorcycle battery and are not designed to be used as a deep cycle battery.  My scouts would kill a motorcycle battery if they run it dead all the time.  Now, I could swap the battery in one of those to a deep cycle battery but then it wouldn't jump a car well as it wouldn't have the CCAs required.

So, I guess I am looking for something between a consumer sized USB power supply  like this:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/styles/larger/public/article_images/2016/01/ravpower-usb-c-power-bank_0.jpg?itok=HE0NNbzE

And the monster two wagon job above

Something like this in fact:

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%201-5.jpg

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%203-4.jpg

Just with a marine (water proof) switch to kill the power and a normal car adapter plug and USB outlets.  I was originally planning to have all the connections inside the box as I am not planning to use use this as a boat box but I may change my mind.


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Here's my 12 volt power supply and charger.



It has 4 large AGM batteries. 105 AH
<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1632.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1632.jpg</a>


<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1646.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1646.jpg</a>


<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1686.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1686.jpg</a>


<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1691.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1691.jpg</a>


<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1680.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/DSCN1680.jpg</a>



My charger is tri fuel and here it is running on propane.
<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/386D7320-AA84-4BD2-B416-EC02016A9D0C_zpsaajuu3fm.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/386D7320-AA84-4BD2-B416-EC02016A9D0C_zpsaajuu3fm.jpg</a>



The GM alternator is a 92 amp.
<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/F0D44D6B-F7ED-485D-9CE6-215EA2A414D8_zpspvoobohh.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/F0D44D6B-F7ED-485D-9CE6-215EA2A414D8_zpspvoobohh.jpg</a>


<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/C080A410-E52F-4FA0-859A-A1F6B5FC7A63_zpsgid0ftor.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/C080A410-E52F-4FA0-859A-A1F6B5FC7A63_zpsgid0ftor.jpg</a>


Here is the solar panels stored with the charger and battery backup unit I would use to charge the batteries if needed.
<a href="http://s901.photobucket.com/user/Rockyriver1234/media/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/0D77FDD6-FC34-4F53-A313-E3944700F414_zpss3zjghvn.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac216/Rockyriver1234/Home%20Made%20Battery%20Charger/0D77FDD6-FC34-4F53-A313-E3944700F414_zpss3zjghvn.jpg</a>



I have wanted to build an alternator charging system like this for quite a few years.  I do have two big 110AH Deep Cycle Marine batteries hooked up to battery tenders and I have the various connectors with that kit to do the same kind of thing I want to do with this small kit - IE 12v Car Adapter with USB hookups as well as 12v LED rope light and DC/AC Inverters.

As for the suggestion to use a jump box, I have one of those as well.  The issue there is the one I have is pretty darned heavy for scouts and tent camping.  I could bring it and leave it in the truck but those batteries are a robust motorcycle battery and are not designed to be used as a deep cycle battery.  My scouts would kill a motorcycle battery if they run it dead all the time.  Now, I could swap the battery in one of those to a deep cycle battery but then it wouldn't jump a car well as it wouldn't have the CCAs required.

So, I guess I am looking for something between a consumer sized USB power supply  like this:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/styles/larger/public/article_images/2016/01/ravpower-usb-c-power-bank_0.jpg?itok=HE0NNbzE

And the monster two wagon job above

Something like this in fact:

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%201-5.jpg

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%203-4.jpg

Just with a marine (water proof) switch to kill the power and a normal car adapter plug and USB outlets.  I was originally planning to have all the connections inside the box as I am not planning to use use this as a boat box but I may change my mind.




Nice
Link Posted: 7/23/2016 5:29:18 PM EDT
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I have wanted to build an alternator charging system like this for quite a few years.  I do have two big 110AH Deep Cycle Marine batteries hooked up to battery tenders and I have the various connectors with that kit to do the same kind of thing I want to do with this small kit - IE 12v Car Adapter with USB hookups as well as 12v LED rope light and DC/AC Inverters.

As for the suggestion to use a jump box, I have one of those as well.  The issue there is the one I have is pretty darned heavy for scouts and tent camping.  I could bring it and leave it in the truck but those batteries are a robust motorcycle battery and are not designed to be used as a deep cycle battery.  My scouts would kill a motorcycle battery if they run it dead all the time.  Now, I could swap the battery in one of those to a deep cycle battery but then it wouldn't jump a car well as it wouldn't have the CCAs required.

So, I guess I am looking for something between a consumer sized USB power supply  like this:

http://www.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/styles/larger/public/article_images/2016/01/ravpower-usb-c-power-bank_0.jpg?itok=HE0NNbzE

And the monster two wagon job above

Something like this in fact:

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%201-5.jpg

http://shop.mariner-sails.com/images/photo%203-4.jpg

Just with a marine (water proof) switch to kill the power and a normal car adapter plug and USB outlets.  I was originally planning to have all the connections inside the box as I am not planning to use use this as a boat box but I may change my mind.


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I have a small pelican case I made up with a sealed 7 ah battery and a Marine 12 volt plug in the side.
It works well and its easy to recharge in a vehicle.

you might want to look into something like this though

https://www.amazon.com/MAXOAK-50000mAh-Portable-External-Notebook-Most/dp/B00YP823NA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1469309081&sr=8-2&keywords=50%2C000+mah
Link Posted: 10/19/2016 12:24:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2016 2:00:27 AM EDT
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I realized I never came back and shared my little project.  This was super easy to do other than one major issue that I never did figure out and I will add that to the end of this post.

To build this I used the following:
1.  Pelican 1120 case
2.  8.0 AH 12v battery that I managed to get at Cabela's from their "bargain cave" cheap
3.  12b Battery Charger - again from Cabela's Bargain cave
4.  10-gauge to SAE waterproof plug
5.  Fuse holder and I am running it with 7.5Amp fuses
6.  10-gauge 2-wire SAE extension cord (Cut in half so half goes to battery charger the other half to splitter with two 12v plugs)
7.  Pair of 12v car to USB adapters

To make this all I did was first drill the hole for the water proof SAE plug then I sealed it with silicone and used aluminum pop rivets to make it solid.  Then I took the positive lead and attached the inline fuse holder and then added 1/4-inch female plugs to pos/neg lines to mount to the battery terminals.

For the charger, I simply removed the wire that came with the battery charger and used the wire with an SAE connector.  I had an old power outlet splitter that we had not been using so I sacrificed the cigarette plug and soldered the positive and negative wires to the connections.  Then sealed everything with heat shrink wrap and then electrical tape.  

I was able to charge three IPAD minis and an IPAD 2 at the same time with this setup in a test.  Obviously with the 12v sockets I have a lot of options for what we can do with this little box now.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92947

Charger works and changes from charging to fully charged indication.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92946

I used industrial Velcro to stick the battery to the pelican case and it works well.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92948

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92952

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92949

The USB adapters have LEDs so I have a way to verify I am getting power to the outlets.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92950

Note the power output cord fits in the box with the 12v to USB adapters.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=92951

Problems:  I had tried to put a switch in this little box so that I could kill the power to the outlet.  The problem I ran into was the lighted switches I was trying to use are designed to be used under load.  As soon as I would turn the switch off the switch connections would smoke.  I decided in this application the switch was more of a hassle and risk than it was worth so I just didn't evaluate it further.

Improvement idea:  I wish now that I had went with a slightly larger box so I could store the charger and other cables in this box.  It does what I had wanted it to do but for a box I don't really plan to carry around a little larger box and the ability to store the charger for this box would have been nice.  As is, I can wrap up the various phone, tablet, USB (micro, mini, etc.) cables and put them under the foam in the lid so they are always with the box to power everything and anything I might want to recharge in the woods or anywhere else for that matter.

Best Uses:  I like this for camping and that is what it was made for.  With that said, this will work great on a kayak trip, motorcycle trip, for a power outage, or anyplace else where you might want more juice then you get from a small power pack.  By far the most expensive piece was the pelican case and I could have made it out of a cheaper case but this is for cub scouts so I know it will get abused.

Anyways, thanks for the help before and sorry it took me a while to post pics of what I ended up building.
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thanks for posting
I built something almost identical with a 7AH battery and a Marine 12 volt plug and wrote it up for the first issue of Be Ready!
magazine. It works great. I have a cord with dual male ends for charging in my vehicle. Been impressed by how well these small
7AH batteries hold up.
Link Posted: 10/25/2016 6:13:00 AM EDT
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For some ideas you might check out the "my solar power" thread.
It was put on no archive in survival gear (it is currently near the last thread)

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Link Posted: 10/28/2016 6:34:55 AM EDT
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For some ideas you might check out the "my solar power" thread.
It was put on no archive in survival gear (it is currently near the last thread)

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Can you link it? I cant find it.
Link Posted: 10/30/2016 12:54:46 PM EDT
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Tagging this!
Link Posted: 10/31/2016 9:32:25 PM EDT
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Awesome. Was looking at building something like this.
Link Posted: 11/2/2016 1:48:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2016 11:01:07 PM EDT
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Get a 12v deep cycle marine battery at WalMart and a smart charger. Wire an inverter to it and put in an inline fuse. You can still use an alligatir clamp cigarette lighter socket as well. Do a search for Steven Harris battery bank on thesurvivalpodcast.com. Several podcasts on how to do it easily.

jd1
Link Posted: 11/3/2016 1:29:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/15/2017 3:42:03 PM EDT
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I snagged a Goalzero Yeti "generator box" (motorcycle battery with power inverter) from an REI Garage sale for like $30 last year.  Emailed Goalzero, told them it didn't work and they sent me a call tag and eventually a new one.  Works great.

Blake
Link Posted: 2/3/2017 3:37:03 AM EDT
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I'd say forget the SLA/AGM batteries and go with a LiFePO4 battery.  BioEnno has some good ones.  

LiFePO4 Pros over SLA/AGM:
Much less weight compared to similar capacity SLA/AGM battery. (Enersys 545 AGM 13Ah weighs 13lbs, the 12Ah LifePO4 is 4.2 lbs)
Holds a usable voltage longer with a flatter discharge curve resulting in more usable  Ah's than a SLA/AGM
Can be cycled many times more than the SLA/AGM.
Can be run dead and still recover unlike an SLA/AGM that when brought to less than 10.5V can permanently damage it

Cons:
Cost - However, given the longer lifespan of the LiFePO4 battery, the long term cost is less.


Secure it in a plastic ammo can from MTM, Plano, or Harbor Freight, along with whatever connectors you need, and you are set.
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