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Posted: 5/14/2015 4:54:09 PM EDT
Looking for old-school info on how people camped/ate before all of the freeze-dried, just-add-water type food became the norm (Mountain House, etc . . .).
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loaf of bread, pb&j, and cool-aid. and many many are we there yet
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Back in the late 60's we used to take a lot of can food.
In the 70's they used to sell civilian version of MRE at supermarket and that was a big improvement in terms of weight. It was things like chili, mac and cheese, etc. in those same package as they use for tuna now. In the 80's freeze dried food was common and cheap enough to afford them. We also discovered those Japanese noodle soup packs (ramon). Starting in early 90's MRE was easily available. |
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about.
I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? |
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Back in those days they didn't call it camping...it was daily survival.
Salted fish, beef, pork, jerky, beans, flour, lard, coffee and sugar. Maybe some fruit and vegetable. |
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Are you talking Chuck wagon days? Cattle drives? Or you talking '40s thru 70s....? |
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coffee, lots of coffee.
cured meats; bacon slab, salt pork, ham beans, the kind you had to soak over night, add your own salt pork, sugar, and molasses to. bannock; camp bread, mix a stiff dough of flour, water, salt, backing powder, bake in a pan facing a fire. fresh fish or game vegetables??? hardly, unless you packed some taters. Picked blueberries for dessert. Later in the 50-70's I would say camping took on the canned food approach. canned beans, canned fruit, canned veggies, canned spam or chipped beef, canned soups. coolers of hot dogs and hamburgers, ketchup, mustard, beer. milk for the coffee drinkers prepared pancake mix were common for us growing up. Might make home made syrup of water, sugar boiled to make a simple syrup with fresh blueberries added. vegetables for us then I recall mostly corn on the cob either boiled or cooked in foil on coals with 7 kids we also got dinner of spagetti because it was cheep and filling. hell I'm old now, I need my vegetables, I can't go more than a day or two on meat and potatos/beans alone. |
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pemmican google it and be amazed at how important it was to settling the west.
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coffee, lots of coffee. cured meats; bacon slab, salt pork, ham beans, the kind you had to soak over night, add your own salt pork, sugar, and molasses to. bannock; camp bread, mix a stiff dough of flour, water, salt, backing powder, bake in a pan facing a fire. fresh fish or game vegetables??? hardly, unless you packed some taters. Picked blueberries for dessert. Later in the 50-70's I would say camping took on the canned food approach. canned beans, canned fruit, canned veggies, canned spam or chipped beef, canned soups. coolers of hot dogs and hamburgers, ketchup, mustard, beer. milk for the coffee drinkers prepared pancake mix were common for us growing up. Might make home made syrup of water, sugar boiled to make a simple syrup with fresh blueberries added. vegetables for us then I recall mostly corn on the cob either boiled or cooked in foil on coals with 7 kids we also got dinner of spagetti because it was cheep and filling. hell I'm old now, I need my vegetables, I can't go more than a day or two on meat and potatos/beans alone. View Quote Great info; exactly what I was looking for. |
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Some people even saw it as normal to carry cast iron cookware while hiking.
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I still like to camp and fish for my meals but I take a couple cans of beef stew for backup.
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Bannock bread, salt pork, eggs keep at room temp if you can carry them.
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I don't recall the title, but there's a good Hemingway short story that describes that in his usual detail.
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Do some research on Parched Corn. It's become my favorite light weight trail food.
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? View Quote I don't think people were really camping back then. Camping became a get away from the life in the city and was usually just a few days living out of a vehicle. For the rest of the people of the time (I'm talking about the 1800s), camping was called Living. You lived off beans, smoke meats or what you killed, trapped or caught. You knew what plants you could eat and what you could grow if you were going to be in one place for awhile. |
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View Quote This, plus look up the works of Horace Kephart, and do some searching about historical trekking. Reenacting supplier Jas. Townsend & Son has 18th/19th century type food, tea, cooking equipment, and some videos. |
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Kill and clean fresh food, canned food, and uncooked grains. Also you can build up a pretty good tolerance to many stomach bugs, my guess is food that would give your average person today food poisoning would give your average person 80-90 years ago some gas.
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Quoted: I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? View Quote It's short, and has a few weird ideas, there are a lot of things about what camping was like back then. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018EIVYE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Looks like it is two bucks. It may be something you are looking for. |
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Quoted: This, plus look up the works of Horace Kephart, and do some searching about historical trekking. Reenacting supplier Jas. Townsend & Son has 18th/19th century type food, tea, cooking equipment, and some videos. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: This, plus look up the works of Horace Kephart, and do some searching about historical trekking. Reenacting supplier Jas. Townsend & Son has 18th/19th century type food, tea, cooking equipment, and some videos. |
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This, plus look up the works of Horace Kephart, and do some searching about historical trekking. Reenacting supplier Jas. Townsend & Son has 18th/19th century type food, tea, cooking equipment, and some videos. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
This, plus look up the works of Horace Kephart, and do some searching about historical trekking. Reenacting supplier Jas. Townsend & Son has 18th/19th century type food, tea, cooking equipment, and some videos. OP, if your serious you must add the books from these two gentlemen! Kephart in particular was detailed about his adventures. He lived out his later years just an hour up the road near Bryson City, NC. |
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I don't recall the title, but there's a good Hemingway short story that describes that in his usual detail. View Quote _ That sounds like the Nick Adams stories, a series of short stories he did. I read a few in high school and college. I remember him walking the RR to a stream then camping and eating his fish. Sorry can't remember much more as that was 20+ years ago. |
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City slickers were camping in the Adirondaks (upstate NY) very early. City folks with disposable income would escape the unsufferable city heat. They'd take a train and or a steamer up the Hudson to the Catskills or the Adirondaks. This was way back in the mid 1800's,
In the fall I would hazard it was more locals hunting and trapping than city dudes. When cars came about in the early 1900's there was another bump in camping. The late 20's and thirties people were just trying to live. Then another boon after WW2. Tha'ts my thumbnail sketch. |
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I don't think people were really camping back then. Camping became a get away from the life in the city and was usually just a few days living out of a vehicle. For the rest of the people of the time (I'm talking about the 1800s), camping was called Living. You lived off beans, smoke meats or what you killed, trapped or caught. You knew what plants you could eat and what you could grow if you were going to be in one place for awhile. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? I don't think people were really camping back then. Camping became a get away from the life in the city and was usually just a few days living out of a vehicle. For the rest of the people of the time (I'm talking about the 1800s), camping was called Living. You lived off beans, smoke meats or what you killed, trapped or caught. You knew what plants you could eat and what you could grow if you were going to be in one place for awhile. I'm using the word "camping" as somewhat of a catch-all to succinctly discuss traipsing around in the wild while carrying provisions. |
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View Quote +1 Nessmuk's book was first published around 1920, IIRC. Also check out Camping and Woodcraft (1917) by Horace Kephart. Camping in the Old Style by David Wescott is also informative. To answer the question, they carried ingredients like flour, bacon, beans, rice, corn meal, spices, etc. and made stuff from scratch. All of these books have sections on what they cooked and how they cooked it. It involved a lot more time and effort than pouring boiling water over freeze dried meals. ETA, I see someone beat me to Kephart. |
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To add to everything that's already been said, there has been of a revival of traditional camping methods, now called "bushcraft." This ranges from not just meal prep but also traditional shelter construction, fire making, and clothing. Bushcraftusa.com is a good board devoted to it. (Note, there is a low tolerance for asshattery over there.)
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? View Quote I'm guessing folks didn't have too much time for "camping" in the 1800's. Probably more existing and surviving than camping. |
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I'm guessing folks didn't have too much time for "camping" in the 1800's. Probably more existing and surviving than camping. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? I'm guessing folks didn't have too much time for "camping" in the 1800's. Probably more existing and surviving than camping. See my comment three posts up from yours |
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+1 Nessmuk's book was first published around 1920, IIRC. Also check out Camping and Woodcraft (1917) by Horace Kephart. Camping in the Old Style by David Wescott is also informative. To answer the question, they carried ingredients like flour, bacon, beans, rice, corn meal, spices, etc. and made stuff from scratch. All of these books have sections on what they cooked and how they cooked it. It involved a lot more time and effort than pouring boiling water over freeze dried meals. ETA, I see someone beat me to Kephart. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
+1 Nessmuk's book was first published around 1920, IIRC. Also check out Camping and Woodcraft (1917) by Horace Kephart. Camping in the Old Style by David Wescott is also informative. To answer the question, they carried ingredients like flour, bacon, beans, rice, corn meal, spices, etc. and made stuff from scratch. All of these books have sections on what they cooked and how they cooked it. It involved a lot more time and effort than pouring boiling water over freeze dried meals. ETA, I see someone beat me to Kephart. I'll check out those books! Thanks a lot. |
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I have some hard tack my son and I made last year. It's still edible.
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canned food is also much older than perhaps some realize........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_can |
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Pork n beans! And what ever else we caught or killed. Oh and a bag of "taters"
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I'm guessing folks didn't have too much time for "camping" in the 1800's. Probably more existing and surviving than camping. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I should have been clearer in what I'm curious about. I'm asking about pre-processed food camping. So before white bread, Ramen, MRE's, etc . . . What did camping look like in the 1920's or 1800's? I'm guessing folks didn't have too much time for "camping" in the 1800's. Probably more existing and surviving than camping. You would guess wrong. It was done a bit differently, often locally, but it was quite popular. Usually there was some attraction, lake, spring, etc... Of course the way some people "camp" now is probably nicer than any hotel you could have stayed in then. |
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