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Posted: 7/15/2016 12:27:14 AM EDT
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Heat quickly then cool. Temps make a difference. You need a pot and heat.
What do you intend on processing? Sounds like you need to learn to can and buy a pressure canner. |
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Posted: 7/15/2016 4:41:51 AM EDT
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Heat quickly then cool. Temps make a difference. You need a pot and heat. What do you intend on processing? Sounds like you need to learn to can and buy a pressure canner. We already can and have 2 pressure cookers. She is talking milk and using that to make buttermilk, cream, butter etc which lasts longer pasteurized than untreated. She also thinks there will be bartering power with the pasteurized milk. |
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Posted: 7/15/2016 10:41:04 AM EDT
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There is zero need to pasteurize milk if you are supplying your own, and you maintain clean conditions and equipment.
The only reason it may last "longer" is that you killed it. Butter lasts a LONG time in refrigeration, so do properly done cheeses (which is an art in itself, which is the traditional way of storing dairy long term). ETA: I'll ask you this: When is the last time you saw a woman pasteurizing breast milk that she pumped for her baby? |
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Posted: 7/17/2016 10:11:57 AM EDT
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Thereason to pasteurize milk is to kill bacteria and disease. There is reason to pasteurize milk from animals even clean well kept animals due to zoonotic diseases. As far as shelf time pasteurized milk will last a little longer.
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Posted: 7/17/2016 9:29:32 PM EDT
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We have milk goats. We don't pasteurize the milk because it's better for you anyway. As Rat said, there really isn't any reason to pasteurize milk that comes from YOUR animals.
There is a lot of negative propaganda about raw milk, but getting sick from raw milk is extremely rare. Also remember, all pasteurization does is kill the bacteria in the milk (good and bad) at the time you pasteurize it. The milk can still be contaminated with bad bacteria after the fact. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 5:11:10 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info guys.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:01:34 PM EDT
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Pasteurization also kills viruses in the milk that are passed on from the animals, and those can not be reinfected. There is ample evidence to support pasteurization of milk if you care about science.
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Posted: 7/18/2016 3:06:25 PM EDT
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Stovetec offers a water pasteurizer as an add-on to
their ROCKET STOVE line up. www.stovetecstore.net |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 4:50:51 PM EDT
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Pasteurization also kills viruses in the milk that are passed on from the animals, and those can not be reinfected. There is ample evidence to support pasteurization of milk if you care about science. Really? If you care about science, then quit propagating a myth. YES, pasteurization does the things you say, but it is completely unnecessary if you keep your animals in clean living conditions and monitor their health. There are numerous European countries that don't require the pasteurization of commercial milk products like we do in the US, and they don't have major problems with food borne illnesses from milk. Yes it happens, but it also happens with pasteurized milk. If the OP want's to buy a pasteurizer that's his business, but he was asking for advice, and it seems like a lot of money to spend on something that is unnecessary. |
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Posted: 7/18/2016 5:32:08 PM EDT
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Yes SCIENCE
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/18/3/pdfs/11-1370.pdf http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrBT8rUSY1XMt0Al6dx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1468906068/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cdc.gov%2ffoodsafety%2frawmilk%2fraw-milk-questions-and-answers.html/RK=0/RS=PE1PoaMzJnz0ffkcFUB7pAw6cGY- http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/ucm079516.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081216161100.htm |
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Posted: 7/19/2016 10:20:45 AM EDT
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We've been drinking raw milk, buttermilk and eating ice cream and butter from our milk cows and goats for years with no issues.
Spend the money if you like... |
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