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Ok, I've asked this before, will ask it again.... When filled with an alcoholic beverage... does an MWC cocktail taste like plastic? [/hijack] |
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Above 32*F will occur when all the ice is melted. The water will start to be usable at 32*F. A slosh variable to your test plan may be beneficial. Slosh it after reaching 32 to see how much water is available for use. Plus, it will help stir the contents for a more even melt rate.
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[hijack] Ok, I've asked this before, will ask it again.... When filled with an alcoholic beverage... does an MWC cocktail taste like plastic? [/hijack] View Quote IDK....but I do know that these things hold two 24 packs of beer (cans) perfectly; with room on the top for two frozen 2L bottles to keep the beer cold. Show up camping with 96 beers and you are the life of the party |
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I've got 2 of these and use them often. My testing involved filling one of my MWCs three-quarters full of cubed ice and then topping it off with tap water. In to the insulated cover it went and then I placed it out in the direct sun during summer. At the end of the second full day there was still ice remaining and the water was, well, ice cold. I'm sold on them. |
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12 hours in and the indoor cooler is at 34F degrees, still frozen solid.
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My experience in using them all through the 90s with water cans that had cube ice in them was that they'd keep the water cool for about 24 hrs
I found them generally more useful in keeping the water can free from dust and other contamination |
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Not really germane to this test or climate but years ago I read/learned on here that in hot&dry climates that if the insulated carrier is significantly wetted down the evaporative cooling effects will help keep the water from reaching abient quickly. Granted we're talking about Temps well in excess of 32f but nonetheless..it's a knowledge nugget.
This applies (climate depending) to the fleece lined canteen carriers as well as these 5 gal USGI MWC carriers. It's not dramatic but it does help keep water cooler than ambient...that pile lining/insulation can be leveraged in the right situation. |
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So, the $40 plus shipping question is, "worth $40 plus shipping?" Or, are there better options out there?
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what is $40. plus shipping? the cans, or the covers, or both? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, the $40 plus shipping question is, "worth $40 plus shipping?" Or, are there better options out there? what is $40. plus shipping? the cans, or the covers, or both? If you look at ebay the covers are running around $40 Makes sense, since they're essentially Gulf War vintage now and there aren't many surplus versions around in decent shape. The cans themselves are running high 30s each unless you buy in bulk. |
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If you look at ebay the covers are running around $40 Makes sense, since they're essentially Gulf War vintage now and there aren't many surplus versions around in decent shape. The cans themselves are running high 30s each unless you buy in bulk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, the $40 plus shipping question is, "worth $40 plus shipping?" Or, are there better options out there? what is $40. plus shipping? the cans, or the covers, or both? If you look at ebay the covers are running around $40 Makes sense, since they're essentially Gulf War vintage now and there aren't many surplus versions around in decent shape. The cans themselves are running high 30s each unless you buy in bulk. You can get them brand new for less than that from Sportsmansguide. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/new-us-military-surplus-water-carrier-cover?a=1809785 |
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yeah, sorry, the $40 was just the insulated cooler.
I was thinking I could use it with many other items if it indeed cools very well. What say the hive? Not worth it without the can??? |
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You can get them brand new for less than that from Sportsmansguide. http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/new-us-military-surplus-water-carrier-cover?a=1809785 View Quote Interesting. I was reporting what I found on Ebay after reading this thread |
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So, the $40 plus shipping question is, "worth $40 plus shipping?" Or, are there better options out there? I don't recall seeing anything else that'll fit the military water cans I have never seen another "cooler" specific to the MWC.....and a MWC will not fit in most consumer grade coolers. I paid $20 a piece for mine, but that was 3-4 years ago, I do recall shipping was a bear (around $20). So I fiqure I am into each one for around $30 or so......If I were to do it again, I would gladly pay $40 for the cooler. |
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So, the $40 plus shipping question is, "worth $40 plus shipping?" Or, are there better options out there? what is $40. plus shipping? the cans, or the covers, or both? The cans are separate and cost about $25 each. |
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... View Quote Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. |
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Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? |
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Quoted: [hijack] Ok, I've asked this before, will ask it again.... When filled with an alcoholic beverage... does an MWC cocktail taste like plastic? [/hijack] View Quote They can be used for making wine. When you're in a situation where you need to either make alcohol in one, or store alcohol in one, the residual effect on tatse isn't really a concern. |
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They can be used for making wine. When you're in a situation where you need to either make alcohol in one, or store alcohol in one, the residual effect on tatse isn't really a concern. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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[hijack] Ok, I've asked this before, will ask it again.... When filled with an alcoholic beverage... does an MWC cocktail taste like plastic? [/hijack] They can be used for making wine. When you're in a situation where you need to either make alcohol in one, or store alcohol in one, the residual effect on tatse isn't really a concern. Well, I ask because we've been breaking glass bottles one camping, and the thought of filling up a 2.5 gallon one with Vodka had been mentioned... |
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This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. |
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Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. Blackoperations, I gotta give you a for doing this thread and test. To get the best results from a side by side bag vs no-bag test the bag and the can should be near the same color. Tan can vs tan bag or green can vs green bag |
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Blackoperations, I gotta give you a for doing this thread and test. To get the best results from a side by side bag vs no-bag test the bag and the can should be near the same color. Tan can vs tan bag or green can vs green bag View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. Blackoperations, I gotta give you a for doing this thread and test. To get the best results from a side by side bag vs no-bag test the bag and the can should be near the same color. Tan can vs tan bag or green can vs green bag Agree, this has been one of the best threads in quite a while. Very useful and interesting data. BTW, I seem to recall - maybe over on the HBT forum - that Gulf War soldiers would make hooch in 5 gallon MWCs all the time. The taste of plastic wasn't ever mentioned. FWIW. |
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BTW, I seem to recall - maybe over on the HBT forum - that Gulf War soldiers would make hooch in 5 gallon MWCs all the time. The taste of plastic wasn't ever mentioned. FWIW. View Quote Thank you! I've invested in a 2.5 gallon one (10L, so by my math, that's 6 handles and a 750... ). We're gonna kill someone if they wash their hands with the Vodka, though... |
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Nice test. Also for those that use 5 gal water cans for camp or what not, get an extra screw on cap and modify it to accept an RV style pump faucet, I did this and it worked great, no more trying to fill up a cup or bottle with 40+ lbs, plus now kids and women can get water out of it without killing themselves. Here is what I use, and just connected a hose to the bottom of pump to reach bottom of can. Really works well with minimal effort. Just get a hole saw, drill out the cap and screw this on. http://www.rvtek.com.au/ebay/Haigh-Hand-Pump.jpg View Quote I just bought a couple of these for the same purpose. Allegedly, they screw on. We'll see when I get it. |
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. Sorry no photos but I have test results. I sat a Tan MWC out in the sun on the concrete at 1pm yesterday (it sat in the chest freezer for 4 days). Starting temp was -16.1C or 3.02F degrees, was 95F degrees out yesterday, and 98F degrees out today, with a low around 77f degrees (overnight). Today at 1pm (24 hours later) I checked the MWC and it reads 23.3C or 74F degree. Absolutely no ICE, I wish I would have check it sooner. I did not expect this ICE to be gone this quickly, I would guess that the ice melted within 12-18 hours. I will re-test, and take a reading sooner this time (and I will use the olive drab MWC). |
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Blackoperations, I gotta give you a for doing this thread and test. To get the best results from a side by side bag vs no-bag test the bag and the can should be near the same color. Tan can vs tan bag or green can vs green bag View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. Blackoperations, I gotta give you a for doing this thread and test. To get the best results from a side by side bag vs no-bag test the bag and the can should be near the same color. Tan can vs tan bag or green can vs green bag Just to make sure I am following you correctly. Do you speculate that the Tan vs Olive Drab bags have different insulating properties? |
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Just to make sure I am following you correctly. Do you speculate that the Tan vs Olive Drab bags have different insulating properties? View Quote Not that poster, but I believe he wants to take any variable out due to one color heating up faster than the other. ETA: like a black vs white car parked in the sun. |
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Just to make sure I am following you correctly. Do you speculate that the Tan vs Olive Drab bags have different insulating properties? Not that poster, but I believe he wants to take any variable out due to one color heating up faster than the other. ETA: like a black vs white car parked in the sun. someassemblyrequired is correct. Blackoperations, In your op you have a green can in a green bag and a tan can in a tan bag. You could put the green can in the tan bag and set the tan can and the tan bag containing the green can in the sun. |
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Sorry no photos but I have test results. I sat a Tan MWC out in the sun on the concrete at 1pm yesterday (it sat in the chest freezer for 4 days). Starting temp was -16.1C or 3.02F degrees, was 95F degrees out yesterday, and 98F degrees out today, with a low around 77f degrees (overnight). Today at 1pm (24 hours later) I checked the MWC and it reads 23.3C or 74F degree. Absolutely no ICE, I wish I would have check it sooner. I did not expect this ICE to be gone this quickly, I would guess that the ice melted within 12-18 hours. I will re-test, and take a reading sooner this time (and I will use the olive drab MWC). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So I will conclude that if you freeze the entire MWC, put it in one of these "coolers" you will have very cold water 3-4 days later (or Adult beverage). I left room for expansion in each MWC, I estimate each can was filled with 4.5 gallons of water. It took nearly 60 hours to freeze solid in my 7 cubic foot chest freezer. Perhaps with some added insulation I could extend the ice to 5-6 days on the cooler stored indoors, IDK. The testing is not done! I will now fill each cooler with frozen 2L bottles and repeat the same test.....STAY TUNED! Tips/Comments/Opinions are Welcome.... Since you asked… It would be nice to know what difference, if any, the insulator bag is making. To find that out you need a control MWC. Make up two identical MWC’s, put one in the bag and leave the second one out right next to it. By measuring the difference between the two MWC’s as they warm up we’ll get an idea of how effective the insulator bags are. This will take a few days, because I have to re-freeze the MWC. You looking for an inside test or outside (or both)? Either one would work, no need to do both unless you want to. No rush. Sorry no photos but I have test results. I sat a Tan MWC out in the sun on the concrete at 1pm yesterday (it sat in the chest freezer for 4 days). Starting temp was -16.1C or 3.02F degrees, was 95F degrees out yesterday, and 98F degrees out today, with a low around 77f degrees (overnight). Today at 1pm (24 hours later) I checked the MWC and it reads 23.3C or 74F degree. Absolutely no ICE, I wish I would have check it sooner. I did not expect this ICE to be gone this quickly, I would guess that the ice melted within 12-18 hours. I will re-test, and take a reading sooner this time (and I will use the olive drab MWC). Thanks for making the effort to do this, very informative. |
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Thanks for doing the leg work. My two carriers came in from Sportsman's guide. They are nice. Thanks again!
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I just completed the second test outside. 14 hours and all the ice was melted with no cooler in full sun at 92F degrees. |
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