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Manual transmissions are becoming a lot harder to find.
When it comes to decent size and reasonable mileage general motors full size half ton, or light duty half ton if there is a hd version, generally does it best. Suburbans can probably get the mileage you are after. My wrangler usually gets the mileage you want. the 4.0 has been a good engine for jeep but they had some specific head issues with certain castings and some people have issues because they either got a lemon or don't let the straight 6 be a straight 6. I keep getting told I drive my straight 6 gassers like a diesel. I don't rev em to the limiter, I also don't lug em. But I use low rpms and let the torque do its thing. If you stumble into a tj I could see getting one perhaps, but they are usually going to be rode hard and put away wet. The cucv stuff can be read about over on steel soldiers. It is what it is. And what it is would be a friggen old vehicle. I know one fella sold one when he checked the price for a starter, he said it was 400 bucks. I don't know, never looked it up myself. I like the full size blazer but I would not get one of these unless you wanted it as a hobby. Depending on the ford exploder, is that the year or years where the firestone tires were being seriously underinflated? Some stuff can feel really tippy because low tire pressure is letting the tire roll around on the sidewall. If looking at the grand cherokees read up on what transfer case it has. Apparently there are some that cause issues, I think it was an awd version and either hard to get parts for or something. Fella was swapping in a different one when I was reading about it. |
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Mileage (more is better), a minimum of 18MPG highway.
Truck is preferred (though he like my Cherokee) Extended cab for truck is preferred 4WD is HIGHLY preferred (but not required), not for hard core off-roading - but for bad weather and occasional light off-roading/camping. Easy to work on, and parts that are available locally (i.e. Advanced Auto or NAPA). 2000 or newer is preferred I'm thinking a manual transmission so the boy can learn how to use one, though if we get an automatic the Wife-Unit could drive the vehicle if her Urban Assault Van is ever in the shop. Miles on odometer of 100,000 or less (preferably less) Spending no more than $6100 on the vehicle (plus tax & tags) View Quote I see posts here by FJCruiser owners claiming the same mpg I got with that red Chevy pickup I used to have. My pickup was a half ton with a V8. Less than 100,000 miles and under $6,100.00 may be a challenge to do in this post 2008 economy and after cash-for-clunkers. Manual transmission...Look around...maybe you find one. As others have pointed out in this thread, think about the total ownership cost. Fuel, oil changes, insurance, and license fees will be expenses that happen in a year. Tires, brakes, starter, alternator, battery, water pump and many other long lasting but wear components will also need to be maintained. You may want to optimize the vehicle you pick by balancing the capabilities of the vehicle against the annual fuel+insurance+fees costs. You also may want to consider the ease of replacing some components that often need replacing during a vehicles middle years. Replacing the alt, starter, water pump and even ball joints on a GM pickup has not been much drama to me. Replacing the water pump on a mid sized crossover suv with a sideways mounted V6 about made me cry |
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Vehicles we've looked at (in order of preference)
View Quote Nissan Frontier will be expensive in some areas, and have availability issues. Parts might also be a problem in some areas (in ND there are virtually zero parts available in any parts yards). Ford Ranger is a good option if you can find a 4x4. Tacoma will be expensive as heck, but a decent truck. Honda CRV will also be incredibly expensive. Jeep Wrangler is a decent vehicle, but barely meets your MPG Efficiency in my experience. Jeep Liberty is cheap because they have shitty transmissions. My Sister In Law went through THREE transmissions - in 1.5 years! Normal soccer mom driving. Jeep Cherokee is decent, but remember, with Cherokees and Wranglers, you're buying a JEEP - which can sometimes require a LOT of work to keep them running - depending on how you treat them. CUCV is highly unlikely to get the MPG you seek. I'd suggest Suzuki Sidekick / Geo Tracker / Vitara as an alternative. Low cost, available parts, available aftermarket lift parts, and 20+ MPG. They are safer than some here would lead you to believe. |
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I'm not sure you are going to find any of those as a decent vehicle with 100K miles, except for a 2WD Ranger in that price range. It would be great if you did.
Rangers are decent vehicles, but mine is 2WD and get very poor traction on any surface other than the road or very dry dirt. I can load down the back to help some but it is not like 4WD. Rangers do not keep their value, but that is OK if you are going to use it a lot. Craigslist has a load of them in my area. Most of them are 2000ish for about 2500, a few 4x4s but they are pricey for the mileage. Tacos are great trucks, but disproportionately pricey b/c of demand. However, great trucks and will last and keep great retail value if you want to fork out for one. CRVs are the same as Tacos. Great vehicles but pricey. Along those lines, I've seen good older CRVs or RAV4s that run very well. In fact, I had a 97 Rav4, AWD, drove it daily for a while, gave it to my sister, she still has it as a daily driver. Rather capable off road even with regular tires, I bet would do really well with more off road oriented tires. Decent room on the inside also. I have been very impressed with it. No major problems. I'd take a look at these especially if you are looking at 15ish year old vehicles. The older Toyotas are really hard to beat. Best wishes |
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You may want to optimize the vehicle you pick by balancing the capabilities of the vehicle against the annual fuel+insurance+fees costs. That is what I am trying to do - but we got millionaires on here who don't seem to worry about things like insurance and fuel costs. I have a budget and must stick to it. You also may want to consider the ease of replacing some components that often need replacing during a vehicles middle years. Replacing the alt, starter, water pump and even ball joints on a GM pickup has not been much drama to me. Replacing the water pump on a mid sized crossover suv with a sideways mounted V6 about made me cry Excellent point. Besides the Silverado (recommended early on), I've also seen posts recommending the S-10. How is this truck? Honestly before this thread the Nissan Fronteir was the front runner (due to cost and my friend's great experiences with the trucks) with the Tacoma comming in 2nd (mostly due to cost/miles of the used vehicles). |
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Nissan Frontier will be expensive in some areas, and have availability issues. Parts might also be a problem in some areas (in ND there are virtually zero parts available in any parts yards). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Nissan Frontier will be expensive in some areas, and have availability issues. Parts might also be a problem in some areas (in ND there are virtually zero parts available in any parts yards). In this are they are quite reasonable, parts are readily available, and I have a friend with his own shop (he is very reasonable on price). Did I mention he was a Nissan trained mechanic and worked decades in Nissan dealerships and has owned several Frontiers? Ford Ranger is a good option if you can find a 4x4. I've not seen a 4x4 Range in a long time. In the late 80s/early 90s their 4x4 system was highly problematic so for those I have been concentrating on RWD. Honda CRV will also be incredibly expensive. I've been learning that. Jeep Liberty is cheap because they have shitty transmissions. My Sister In Law went through THREE transmissions - in 1.5 years! Normal soccer mom driving. Good to know - thanks for the heads up. I'd suggest Suzuki Sidekick / Geo Tracker / Vitara as an alternative. Not seeing many of those, and the ones I do are high mielage. |
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Frontiers are crazy cheap in Maryland right now.
I regularly see them for half the price of a Tacoma. I almost bought one as my last project. Found a 1999 4wd xtra cab manual with 150k miles and a broken trans for $1000. |
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Damn near any vehicle will suffice in most circumstances. People drive what they want to drive because of factors not relevant to survival...color, nice lines, rebates, cost...
If it was a bov thread, I'd still say chevy truck, due to the sheer volume produced, parts availability, affordability, ease of repair, interchangable parts, etc. Put your kid in a safe vehicle and not a crappy tin box designed to get an extra 5 mpg. This really isn't a survival thread, just a shopping thread. Good luck. |
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This really isn't a survival thread, just a shopping thread. Good luck. View Quote It is because it will be my son's vehicle for a number of years to come. He is going away to college in a year and I want to ensure he can get there and home (and as a bonus carry all his belongs at the beginning/end of the terms). Weather is a concern (especially to the places he wants to go), and the boy likes camping/being outdoors. I could post this in GD and get the usual Herp-Derp answers and a complete ingnoring of the requirements. Here in SF people will understand the requirements and suggesting things that I may not see as fitting the needs, and will do so with the thought of preparedness in the selection. |
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forest, you know my thoughts on diesels. As far as maintenance on the old 6.2, there isn't much to go wrong. Age wise the CUCV is gonna be a challenge due to rust. Mine still runs after 7 years of plowing snow if we can keep the body from falling off the frame. FWIW my 04 Dodge diesel 4x4 will get 21 mpg highway. Tough to beat for a full sized 3/4 ton 4x4 that will drag the world behind it. Stay away from the 98.5 thru 02 rams the vp44 injection pump eats shit. Auto trans is good for about 150k. the driveline will outlast the truck. Yes it is a big beast, they are tough as a tank.
FWIW Gabe has plans to restore the old Blazer. in 300k miles it NEVER made us walk home. Ops |
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Quoted: forest, you know my thoughts on diesels. As far as maintenance on the old 6.2, there isn't much to go wrong. Age wise the CUCV is gonna be a challenge due to rust. Mine still runs after 7 years of plowing snow if we can keep the body from falling off the frame. FWIW my 04 Dodge diesel 4x4 will get 21 mpg highway. Tough to beat for a full sized 3/4 ton 4x4 that will drag the world behind it. Stay away from the 98.5 thru 02 rams the vp44 injection pump eats shit. Auto trans is good for about 150k. the driveline will outlast the truck. Yes it is a big beast, they are tough as a tank. FWIW Gabe has plans to restore the old Blazer. in 300k miles it NEVER made us walk home. Ops View Quote My friend's dad had a 6.2 that had close to 600k on it and that was with minor repairs. I think rust finally killed it. Stay away from the 6.5 though. I own one and there are too many problems with it. Injection pump & PMD being the biggest. I still say go above 100k miles and get a Tacoma with a good rust free frame. Those things are bullet proof, the 4 cyl doesn't even have a timing belt to worry about. I wish I still had mine. My GM is always leaking or breaking down. It's a 96 with 190k so I expect some failure but I've done a lot of repair work in the 3 years I've owned it and looking at the prior owner's repair history, I bet he put 15k in repairs into it not counting a lot of warranty work. On the bright side it's made me a better mechanic (but that's not saying a lot) |
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Quoted: How about Ford Explorers? They seem like a bigger SUV, got 4x4, safety ratings are decent. If they are ok- what years should I look for - or better yet what years should I avoid? Thanks for all the help and suggestions so far. View Quote I recently had to buy two used cars for my wife and I. This site was informative for finding problem years and common failures. I had almost bought a nice Pathfinder until reading about the transmission problems. http://www.carcomplaints.com/ This one was great for finding good prices. http://www.cargurus.com/ |
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That is what I am trying to do - but we got millionaires on here who don't seem to worry about things like insurance and fuel costs. I have a budget and must stick to it. Excellent point. Besides the Silverado (recommended early on), I've also seen posts recommending the S-10. How is this truck? Honestly before this thread the Nissan Fronteir was the front runner (due to cost and my friend's great experiences with the trucks) with the Tacoma comming in 2nd (mostly due to cost/miles of the used vehicles). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You may want to optimize the vehicle you pick by balancing the capabilities of the vehicle against the annual fuel+insurance+fees costs. That is what I am trying to do - but we got millionaires on here who don't seem to worry about things like insurance and fuel costs. I have a budget and must stick to it. You also may want to consider the ease of replacing some components that often need replacing during a vehicles middle years. Replacing the alt, starter, water pump and even ball joints on a GM pickup has not been much drama to me. Replacing the water pump on a mid sized crossover suv with a sideways mounted V6 about made me cry Excellent point. Besides the Silverado (recommended early on), I've also seen posts recommending the S-10. How is this truck? Honestly before this thread the Nissan Fronteir was the front runner (due to cost and my friend's great experiences with the trucks) with the Tacoma comming in 2nd (mostly due to cost/miles of the used vehicles). My last S10 had the 4.3 V6, 700 R4 transmission, and IFS 4x4. Well the S10 has had IFS 4x4 since the beginning of the S10. That V6 was a 5.7 V8 with 2 cylinders removed, but it weighed the same as the V8 it was copied from. MPG was better than V8 when the truck had little load, and worse than V8 when loaded. Hauling a load through the hills of MD and VA with that V6...BTDT...if ya can't say anything nice then don't say anything...You say your son is going to haul his things to and from college you say??? Forrest, I'll share my coffee and beer with ya... I cannot recommend a 2wd pickup in clear conscience...In fact if you select a pickup or suv I must strongly recommend 4x4 for the added safety in wet and slippery weather. What about a Corolla to DD and rent a truck on move days? |
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I'm partial to Subaru since I work for a Subaru dealership. I'm really digging AWD....now, you aren't getting the cargo capacity compared to a truck, but MPG wise you will thank yourself over the life of the vehicle. View Quote Agreed. A kid should not need to take a truckload of stuff to college anyhow. I think the OP would be wise to give some consideration to something like an Outback. Plenty of room to carry things, easy to drive/maneuver/park, reasonable fuel economy, fairly non-descript/inconspicuous, outstanding AWD. Very practical. |
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Pay attention to any of the s10 stuff if you go that way.
My family had a couple of the rounded body style s10/jimmy/bravada things. The first s10 was early in the change to the rounded body style and it used front pads way too fast. Rear drums would be adjusted up but it used the front pads for most of the braking and wore them out in 25K miles or so. Bravada had 4 wheel disc brakes and I was eventually impressed by it when it was handed down to me to destroy. At that time parents would give stuff to a younger sister and when she bought herself something else she gave me the bravada. I complained about it, but it overall was not that bad a vehicle. An uncle also had one of these rounded s10/jimmy/bravada vehicles and his did the best and went well over 200k miles before I sold it for over a thousand bucks. Something happened to my uncle's rear hatch and it took a while to get the part in and get back to where he could open up the back of his suv. I always felt the turning radius sucked on these things but it was explained to me that I am spoiled by jeeps and their tight turning radius, so I still feel the turning radius sucks. I am greatly amused by people taking the awd transfer case out of the bravada or astro mini van and installing the one from the s10/jimmy vehicles to get 4wd high and low. The 4.3 had some changes, I think at some point they felt it needed a balance shaft and eventually did away with it or something. I like the concept of it being a v8 with 2 cylinders missing but that is soso now adays with lots of power out of engines. If I ever get something with the 4.3 I would probably put a v8 in it but doing so would probably cause me to break other things in the driveline. In today's world if he takes his vehicle to college make sure he pays close attention to all rules if he gets a parking pass. I don't know what colleges do about searching vehicles and what not but in today's world it could be a huge headache. I would just about take one just to be able to have a lockage secure area far away from stupid room mates and everyone else who has a "master" key to the room or can go pull one if they have a good excuse. And it is not always about valuable items, just your work or ideas in college are a huge deal if someone else gets them turned in as their work before you turn in your work. Then again I am paranoid. One thing I will say is my family went from I think a jimmy and then a bravada to a 2k or so model year tahoe with the 5.3 v8. The tahoe got the same mileage the smaller vehicles got and it was a lot roomier and towed better and had more power. The tahoe and burbans tend to get about the same mileage as the 4.3 stuff. My dad would go to work in snow no matter the weather but he hardly ever went off roading. So he would buy the michelin tires that look like street tires but do well in snow and what not. That helped the mileage out a lot as well. I eventually had mud tires on the bravada and even though the awd was not to be used off road it did alright on some property I owned since I did not take it off roading all day long. It was a property vehicle for getting around on clay. Once the mud tires were on the bravada and the michelins on the tahoe I think there was a 2mpg difference between the 2 and the tahoe won. |
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Dont leave out a chevy Colorado. Great gas mileage. Arent terribly priced. Spend a little more and get 4 wheel drive. I have one for going back and for to work.
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Eh, they stopped making the 3/4 ton burban or I would be back to that again.
I would also have to say the tahoe and s10 variations have similar turning radi but someone else can look that up. With the direction stuff is headed today I guess I am working on getting a fleet of older stuff together and when one gets in a wreck I will upgrade from rarely driving something to making it the daily driver. Hard on vehicles but today's stuff is giving me a headache. Had to explain there are posts in the engine bay to jump the vehicle even if buick did decide the battery was a good item to store under the backseat or some other stupid place. |
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I had a '95 GC with the 318 V-8. It was a salvage title car, looked like shit, but that damned thing just kept running. One of my better automotive purchases, for sure. Sold it at 245K, the SO said that with my new job I needed a better looking vehicle. Bought a 2000 GC with the 4.0, and 82K miles. At 106K it lost oil pressure and lunched the engine. I wish I'd spent a couple of thousand on the '95 for new paint and upholstery instead.
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Just FYI, here in MD there are quite a few 2001-2004 2.7L 4wd Tacomas for $6k or less. Here is a 1998 2.7/4WD/Manual with 178k for $5250 http://smd.craigslist.org/cto/4932647135.html 1998 Toyota Tacoma Xtracab V6 4WD w/ 140202 miles - $5900 http://baltimore.craigslist.org/ctd/4938419505.html View Quote Between those two, you want the 2.7/4WD/Manual. It fills your desired criteria nicely. They just don't quit, and parts are common. The engine is easy to work on. |
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Thank you! That's quite generous. I'll take you up on that offer if it's available in a week when the insurance check arrives. Is that common for Tacomas? I know the Jeep 4.0 has a rep for those kind of miles (it's one reason why I drive one). ETA: Lookup Tacomas for that year on CarComplaints, they look pretty good. Crash test results are better than the Liberty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd be happy to check it out for you. Thank you! That's quite generous. I'll take you up on that offer if it's available in a week when the insurance check arrives. My tacoma has 250k on it now. Is that common for Tacomas? I know the Jeep 4.0 has a rep for those kind of miles (it's one reason why I drive one). ETA: Lookup Tacomas for that year on CarComplaints, they look pretty good. Crash test results are better than the Liberty. I can't speak for the Tacomas, as mine only has 14K on it...but my 1986 Toyota 4X4s with manual trannies and 4 cyl (22RE) motors went 340K and 300K and were both driven to Ecuador from Southern California after I sold them. I baby my daily drivers...the '86 with 300K went the last 100k with no maintenance other than brakes, tires, and fluids. Not even a clutch. |
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The check came in and my boy has decided on a truck. He has a concept for a part time business where the truck will be needed.
So we're looking at the pickups, top spots are the Tacomas and Frontiers, but we'll look at them all. Some really good options down in VA, unfortunately we didn't have time this weekend to head down there to check them out. |
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I bought a new 4x4 tacoma in 99 with 2.7 and auto transmission. It was a great little truck. In the 8 years of owning I only had to replace the water pump just before selling it. That was a easy couple hour driveway repair.
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I always tell people to look a little further outside of the local areas . This would be my first suggestion . I see Rangers here in your price point with 4 wd .
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I always tell people to look a little further outside of the local areas . This would be my first suggestion . I see Rangers here in your price point with 4 wd . View Quote I've been going out as far as 2 hours away. Lots of good stuff in VA (figures they always get the good stuf ). You thinking further, like TN, NC, WV and such? |
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I can't speak for the Tacomas, as mine only has 14K on it...but my 1986 Toyota 4X4s with manual trannies and 4 cyl (22RE) motors went 340K and 300K and were both driven to Ecuador from Southern California after I sold them. I baby my daily drivers...the '86 with 300K went the last 100k with no maintenance other than brakes, tires, and fluids. Not even a clutch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'd be happy to check it out for you. Thank you! That's quite generous. I'll take you up on that offer if it's available in a week when the insurance check arrives. My tacoma has 250k on it now. Is that common for Tacomas? I know the Jeep 4.0 has a rep for those kind of miles (it's one reason why I drive one). ETA: Lookup Tacomas for that year on CarComplaints, they look pretty good. Crash test results are better than the Liberty. I can't speak for the Tacomas, as mine only has 14K on it...but my 1986 Toyota 4X4s with manual trannies and 4 cyl (22RE) motors went 340K and 300K and were both driven to Ecuador from Southern California after I sold them. I baby my daily drivers...the '86 with 300K went the last 100k with no maintenance other than brakes, tires, and fluids. Not even a clutch. Lol, Tacomas and Carollas. I've never been able to wear either one out. The first Carolla had 220,000+ and the wife totaled it. The second had 125,000 and the wife totaled it too (not her fault that time). My first Tacoma had 275,000 when I gave it to my friends son for graduating high school (rusted and banged up, but still a runner). Currently I have a 2003 that's getting ready to turn 100,000. She's been run hard (I don't spend much time on the interstate, been rear ended a couple times), but maintained well, and I have no doubt she'll do 200+. I'm partial to the 2.7L for older Tacomas. |
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I always tell people to look a little further outside of the local areas . This would be my first suggestion . I see Rangers here in your price point with 4 wd . I've been going out as far as 2 hours away. Lots of good stuff in VA (figures they always get the good stuf ). You thinking further, like TN, NC, WV and such? Bah, Locate a good rig in one of the non rust states. Fly Southwest to the deal. Meet n greet SFers. Get ride. Have epic road trip home with son. Profit. |
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Bah, Locate a good rig in one of the non rust states. Fly Southwest to the deal. Meet n greet SFers. Get ride. Have epic road trip home with son. Profit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I always tell people to look a little further outside of the local areas . This would be my first suggestion . I see Rangers here in your price point with 4 wd . I've been going out as far as 2 hours away. Lots of good stuff in VA (figures they always get the good stuf ). You thinking further, like TN, NC, WV and such? Bah, Locate a good rig in one of the non rust states. Fly Southwest to the deal. Meet n greet SFers. Get ride. Have epic road trip home with son. Profit. I htought of this - but son is taking college courses twice a week and now has a job. Not so easy to take a long trip. I was looking at a couple suburbans and an expedition (more for me once we get Chris sorted out). |
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I suggest you review the movies Smokey & the Bandit, and Gumball Rally for driving instructions
Suburban is the same length as a single cab pickup with an 8 ft bed. It will turn just like that size pickup. |
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We found the boy a crew cab Frontier with 140K miles, now we'er working on it so it will pass inspection.
We have temp tags and boy has already gone out and 'tested' the 4WD a second time. Well the vehicle WAS clean. |
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We found the boy a crew cab Frontier with 140K miles, now we'er working on it so it will pass inspection. We have temp tags and boy has already gone out and 'tested' the 4WD a second time. Well the vehicle WAS clean. View Quote That's a good truck. My brother in Ellicott City is getting ready to replace his 2004 Crew Cab Frontier 4x4 with 225,000+ miles. The only negative thing I've heard him say is the factory skid plate makes it a pain in the ass to change the oil. My brother is hard on vehicles, and I can assure you those were 225,000 tough miles. |
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That's a good truck. My brother in Ellicott City is getting ready to replace his 2004 Crew Cab Frontier 4x4 with 225,000+ miles. The only negative thing I've heard him say is the factory skid plate makes it a pain in the ass to change the oil. My brother is hard on vehicles, and I can assure you those were 225,000 tough miles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We found the boy a crew cab Frontier with 140K miles, now we'er working on it so it will pass inspection. We have temp tags and boy has already gone out and 'tested' the 4WD a second time. Well the vehicle WAS clean. That's a good truck. My brother in Ellicott City is getting ready to replace his 2004 Crew Cab Frontier 4x4 with 225,000+ miles. The only negative thing I've heard him say is the factory skid plate makes it a pain in the ass to change the oil. My brother is hard on vehicles, and I can assure you those were 225,000 tough miles. Yeah we learned that over the weekedn. |
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We found the boy a crew cab Frontier with 140K miles, now we'er working on it so it will pass inspection. We have temp tags and boy has already gone out and 'tested' the 4WD a second time. Well the vehicle WAS clean. View Quote []All Ya gotta do now is lift it with a 42" kit, so you can roll on 87s...'N' add an 87K winch.[/] Cool I hope this works very well for y'all. However...I had hope that you would get an all wheel drive Vibe, and just rent a truck the 2 times a year that he would be moving. |
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We found the boy a crew cab Frontier with 140K miles, now we'er working on it so it will pass inspection. We have temp tags and boy has already gone out and 'tested' the 4WD a second time. Well the vehicle WAS clean. That's a good truck. My brother in Ellicott City is getting ready to replace his 2004 Crew Cab Frontier 4x4 with 225,000+ miles. The only negative thing I've heard him say is the factory skid plate makes it a pain in the ass to change the oil. My brother is hard on vehicles, and I can assure you those were 225,000 tough miles. Yeah we learned that over the weekedn. Since you'll do it yourself, it's no big deal. The problem is when you pay to have it done, and the minimum wage dropout doesn't feel like messing with the skid plate (doesn't change the filter). Or when you're on the outer loop, and the replacement for the fired minimum wage dropout didn't put two of the bolts back on the skid plate, and you wonder what that terrible racket is (skit plate dragging on asphalt) From then on, he changed his own oil... It's a good excuse to tell the wife that you need a cordless impact driver. I think you chose well. |
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However...I had hope that you would get an all wheel drive Vibe, and just rent a truck the 2 times a year that he would be moving. View Quote The kid has an idea for a part time business hauling things from yard sales for buyers w/o trucks. Lots of those kind of sales in the area. His money, his choice (I do have a veto option). Since his other job is mosly afternoons & evenings he figures it will be a way to make a bit more money. |
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Good 'nuff, but you know I had to give you a little sass so that you knew we still wuv you.
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The kid has an idea for a part time business hauling things from yard sales for buyers w/o trucks. Lots of those kind of sales in the area. His money, his choice (I do have a veto option). Since his other job is mosly afternoons & evenings he figures it will be a way to make a bit more money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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However...I had hope that you would get an all wheel drive Vibe, and just rent a truck the 2 times a year that he would be moving. The kid has an idea for a part time business hauling things from yard sales for buyers w/o trucks. Lots of those kind of sales in the area. His money, his choice (I do have a veto option). Since his other job is mosly afternoons & evenings he figures it will be a way to make a bit more money. |
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DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT buy a Liberty. They are built like Crap. I have one and so does a friend and they are both Crap flipped 100k and started falling apart and leaks everywhere.
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Silverado or Tahoe. My Tahoe will almost get 20 mpg on the interstate if I drive it decently. Parts are dirt cheap. 5.3L engines are about as bulletproof as can be reasonably expected - Bought mine with 120k miles, its now at nearly 280k and still running fine. Biggest repairs to date have been a used transmission a couple months ago, one alternator and a set of intake gaskets.
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