Watching the news on this is depressing.  Its like Jerry Falwell's "God's revenge to the unholy" its so full of political BS and lies.  

Yesterday, "Ride on a bus with Ebola" CDC head told congress our official policy on this is to defeat Ebola in Africa and cancelling flights in from the region or requiring medical interviews would hamper that effort.  Meanwhile, lock and steps are now focusing on this virus is transmitted by blood like you have to have anal sex while the nurse in TX has been transported to a special contagion containment hospital half a country away.  All this without a soul mentioning HIV doesn't make you bleed.  

How stupid do they think we are?   Its like nobody has ever had vomit in their throat or coughed up congestion and we're too stupid to know both our lungs and our stomachs are attached to our mouths.  So here we are talking of airborne or not when a sneeze can create enough force for a 100 mph wind which would blow a 2x4 or send a Pepsi can like a bullet.  I think we should put Freden on his bus full of Ebola patients.  

There's only one plan for Ebola, isolation.  That's it.  Average Joe is not going to be able to afford the gear to deal with even treating a family member.  This is suit up, no cracks, movie stuff wit decontamination showers, furnace disposal of anything that touched the patient, and positive pressure rooms.  I worked in a clinical microbiology lab for years in the Military and I couldn't even begin to be prepared to be in close proximity with this bug. This is stay the hell away from it stuff if there ever was.  Our hospitals can't handle this bug let alone us at home.  That's why this is a family killer.  Africans aren't totally stupid walk into the jaws of hell like they have no idea in the world.  They're doing everything they can and still dying.  

o this is get your shit together, put your ear to the ground, pull the plug and stay home shit.  The more you limit your exposure, the better your odds.  That means the threshold of when to pull the plug is critical, but it also means its going to be in degrees not life is normal till its pull the plug.  I don't know about you but I'm not going to Africa anytime soon.  Hell, I'm not going to Disney World or for that matter any vacation spot that's  mulch-cultural with people from all over the world and that's the threat right now is at its lowest level after knowing there is a threat.  What I'm getting at here is we're going to react to this in degrees of isolation.  Some people life will be close to normal and may never ever see this threat.  Others, we need to adapt a little.  As time goes on, maybe a little more.  I pray not pull the plug stay at home 100% for that indeed would be Stephen King shit, but we should be prepared.    

Two things strike me as top of the lists, how much food we have at home so we can limit exposure in supermarkets and how much cash.  Unless you work in the public, you are not going to get Ebola commuting in your car.  Are you set up to pay your bills without getting out?  That's electronic or gotta have stamps.  This isn't pull the plug stuff but simply limit exposure stuff.  

This is what the market is reacting to, not a threat of a massive death dealing pandemic but people taking the commonsense approach needed to stop this threat before its real. Not going to Disneyworld or NYC in a plane right now is not panic.  Closing those schools in Cleveland may be, time will tell, but not purposely exposing yourself is not.  You don't have to be a Wall Street genius to predict this is going to be a hard winter for the coastal tourist areas and places with high African (from Africa) populations.  

If you are at the point you need that mask, you had a piss poor plan because taking that mask to an Ebola outbreak is like taking a thimble of water to a house fire.  This isn't HIV as the media would like you to think.  This is if you are around it, you are flipping a coin.  This is communication and intelligence gathering critical.  This isn't 3d stuff its 4d, time is an element.  Having an unofficial source of information is very important.

I don't know about where you are but the only rumbles here is getting ready for this if it gets loose.  That's it for now.  No radical shifts other than avoidance of areas for now far away and by plane.

Anyway I hope I helped, but I'm very serious about there is only one plan, isolation.  The rest is what do I do when someone I love gets it and dies stuff.  

Tj

the bottom line is this unless you have the means to be 100% self sufficient for 60 days or so past the last case in your area, there isn't much you can do to eliminate your chances of exposure.

for the rest of us, good hygiene. staying healthy, and ensuring your location is cleaned regularly with give you a 90% reduction in infection chances. be smart, avoid known hot areas, wash your ass and you will be fine.

Last night, I'm watching the news as this blond bimbo doctor told the world their kids could go to school with someone with Ebola and nothing to worry about.  I just looked at my wife and said, "Wonder how long it took to find that bimbo that would follow the official line and throw her credibility to the wind?"

Best story was local here at UT hospital.  The doctor flat out said, "CDC be damned.  We're testing anyone for Ebola who comes in here that was in a risk area."

That's where we are.  The media is half news and half control the masses propaganda.  We need to apply commonsense and filter out the BS.  Its a virus.  Its not magic or has a brain.  It can't tell economics, white from black, or slum from mansion.  It doesn't have wings but neither does it have arms to cling to patients lungs.  All this talk of treating this bug more cavalier than TB is bull crap control the masses and not helping at time when we could all help by just using commonsense, not going into risk areas, and treating this for what it is, an upper respiratory virus.  

I say again, if it was in my power, I'd put the head of the CDC on a bus full of Ebola patients.


The only panic is in the media and government.  Asking that incoming people from those areas be limited and/or go through a medical check more than a kid with a thermometer gun is not unheard of.  In fact, its an insult to every American who's ancestor came here through Ellis Island.  God forbid, customs would have to ask another question "Where you been?" or "Have you been exposed to Ebola?"

Tj

have you read the thread in GD? it's nothing but conspriacy bs and panic.

that is because there is a very real definition of airborn transmission and ebola does not meet it.

exposures require a certain virus load to occur. ebola is not present in saliva in enough qty until in the much later stages of the disease. by the time that occurs your already seeing vomiting and explosive diarrhea as well as many other symptoms. at that point. sneezing and coughing is the least of your exposure worries.

if ebola was truly airborne we would have much more than only .01% of the population of liberia infected in an almost 9 month unconstrained outbreak.

most of this panic is being driven by people reading technical medical studies with absolutely ZERO understanding of that they are reading. Even the CIDRAP article that is being tossed around from brietbart has been recanted by the organization and they stated the study DOES NOT prove or verify airborne transmission.

currently duncan has infected 2 other. 2 people who either made a mistake in protocol, were improperly trained, or had improper gear <i believe a combination of all 3>.

lets say that again... 2. the mean time to symptoms seems to be around 8-12 days. we should be seeing the remaining cases in the next few days if there are going to be any from duncan.

ebola amber will likely have a zero 3rd party exposure unless she had a major accident somewhere and exposed someone directly to blood. the same for pham.

based on the numbers of infected in west africa and the number reported that travel from that region the odds of us seeing an infected individual is not nearly as high as the media and spin doctors are screaming. .1% of about 200 por so per day.

unless we begin to see several 3rd party infections from the nurses this is going to pretty much be a dead issue in the next few months. this assumes the "panic" can be brought into realistic levels.