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Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:37:41 PM EDT
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Well, you sure give up easily....

Don't you understand, Ferfal MAY be here to promote his new book [check out the last topic he started], and with this nutty topic/rant he started got more than he expected?

He basically outed himself...




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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.



Well, you sure give up easily....

Don't you understand, Ferfal MAY be here to promote his new book [check out the last topic he started], and with this nutty topic/rant he started got more than he expected?

He basically outed himself...






hes realizing what he put in his book is leftist propaganda and he didn't even realize it.

maybe he can have good ole Hillary sign it for him. its really her book, he did write that book someone else did. apparently
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:43:46 PM EDT
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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.
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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.


No man, its me that should be apologizing. I didn’t know that as Catholics we were supposed to destroy America. Guess I didn’t get the memo.
How dare I say that the blatantly anti-Catholic youtube video you posted was blatantly anti-Catholic?

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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.



Well, you sure give up easily....

Don't you understand, Ferfal MAY be here to promote his new book [check out the last topic he started], and with this nutty topic/rant he started got more than he expected?

He basically outed himself...





(silent clap…)
You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
I’ll go now and gather with my socialist latino Catholic brothers, think of new ways to destroy America.
FerFAL
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:50:01 PM EDT
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No man, its me that should be apologizing. I didn’t know that as Catholics we were supposed to destroy America. Guess I didn’t get the memo.
How dare I say that the blatantly anti-Catholic youtube video you posted was blatantly anti-Catholic?


(silent clap…)
You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
I’ll go now and gather with my socialist latino Catholic brothers, think of new ways to destroy America.
FerFAL
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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.


No man, its me that should be apologizing. I didn’t know that as Catholics we were supposed to destroy America. Guess I didn’t get the memo.
How dare I say that the blatantly anti-Catholic youtube video you posted was blatantly anti-Catholic?

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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.



Well, you sure give up easily....

Don't you understand, Ferfal MAY be here to promote his new book [check out the last topic he started], and with this nutty topic/rant he started got more than he expected?

He basically outed himself...





(silent clap…)
You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
I’ll go now and gather with my socialist latino Catholic brothers, think of new ways to destroy America.
FerFAL



You've changed forever the way I will think of you...  






Link Posted: 7/19/2014 12:53:58 PM EDT
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Speaking of Catholics...

A good schoolteacher friend told us this week how her Catholic priest was going on and on about how wonderful the Illegal Invasion of our country was ---during her last Sunday's church service.

A brave woman in the congregation stood up and interrupted the priest [the priest kept talking over her] to explain why he was talking communist bullshit that was designed to destroy our country.  

Then the lady walked out.

There are a few, very few, who understand -and care- what's happening to our country and recognize  the Fifth-Columnists who have fully infiltrated it.

Who constantly brainwash us.



Link Posted: 7/19/2014 1:07:32 PM EDT
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Then the same lady friend told us how Speaker of the House Boner...

Was responsible for allowing the Illegal Invasion...

And Obama was trying to stop it.



It's hard to relate the stupidity of some of our flat-screen addicted friends...

She's strongly conflicted by the influence of her Libtard co-school-teachers, who have their heads up their asses. And like my Mom, would drink Obama's urine, if someone were smart enough to bottle it.







Link Posted: 7/19/2014 1:13:56 PM EDT
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Speaking of Catholics...

A good schoolteacher friend told us this week how her Catholic priest was going on and on about how wonderful the illegal invastion of our country was ---during her last Sunday's church service.

A brave woman in the congregation stood up and interrupted the priest [the priest kept talking over her] to explain why he was talking communist bullshit that was designed to destroy our country.  

Then the lady walked out.

There are a few, very few, who understand what's happening to our country and recognize  the Fifth-Columnists who have fully infiltrated it.





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That's Catholics all right, helping commies all over the world. China, Russia, all places where Catholics are welcomed with their commie ideology. I went to the Catholic University of Buenos Aires myself and can tell you about it first hand: Full of commies. You'd think that the richest families sent their kids there to study but no, one dirty commie after the other. Opus Dai, ever heard of that secret Catholic order? I actually went to some of their meetings. You'd think they are as far right wing as a person can get and more than a bit snobby but no man, commies.
You’d think that Catholicism is simply a religion and that its not a political affiliation… but no, Catholics are all communists, like that JFK commie.
FerFAL
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 1:17:40 PM EDT
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Nonsense...


Link Posted: 7/19/2014 5:31:43 PM EDT
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I never saw a swerve into a Catholic debate coming in this thread.  Catholics are a riddle to me.  Half of my wife's family is Catholic.  It just happens that they are among the people we are closest to and have gotten to know the best.  Of these American Catholics, half are as conservative or more so than me and the other half could easily be classified as communist if you took a list of communist beliefs and checked them off according to the stated beliefs of these people.  I can't explain it other than to say the leftists don't know their bibles.  They have bought into the belief that they should be charitable with OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.  They completely miss the part about Thou shalt not STEAL.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 5:33:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2014 8:03:58 PM EDT
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I'm Catholic. I speak Spanish too.

But any Church with 1.2 billion members is going to run the gamut politically. It's true that there is a "left/progressive" wing in the Church both in the USA and in other countries - liberation theology was/is a still potent force in many Latin and central american countries. But the Church per se has officially condemned both Communism by name and Socialism as an ideology. So the only way around this is to subtly promote particular policies and practices that are communist or socialist in the name of 'helping the poor'. But for every left wing Catholic there are Right and Center Catholics.

For every Joe Biden there is a Paul Ryan. For every Anthony Kenedy there's an Anton Scalia. We effectively cancel ourselves out politically by having about as many senators, congressmen and others on each side of the aisle. Which is why we rarely have an effective bloc politically.

Catholicism is extra-national, supra-national and supra-ethnic too.... something not many other churches or groups manage well. So I think to bring it up is a side issue, it's not really germane to the subject. Some Catholics are socialist/commie/left wing progressives....and some are conservative/right wing tea partiers. Both will claim they are what they are because of their Catholicism.
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 9:30:52 PM EDT
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One of my ex-in laws, a militant conservative Catholic, is of the opinion the "mainstream" American Catholic church is embracing liberation theology and sheltering illegal immigrants in an effort to rebuild its attendance numbers. "More butts in pews, more money in the plates."
Link Posted: 7/19/2014 10:35:22 PM EDT
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I don't have anything hip to add but....I wonder how things would go over if we released our scum of society into other countries borders . I'm not saying all illegals are scum, but....I doubt all our trash and criminals would be welcomed with arms wide open.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 3:28:02 AM EDT
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Excellent point.  I think we should test your hypothesis to ease our jail overcrowding.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 3:50:23 AM EDT
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I think argentiny can suck china's dick for a while.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 3:59:37 AM EDT
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I have a major issue with the "illegal" part.  They are NOT immigrants.  Although, I have to agree with Phil Collins that "it's no fun being an illegal alien"  
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 5:24:50 AM EDT
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Right, but we all know what we would do in that same situation. We'd all do the same thing they are doing. No sane person with half a braincell would pick living in some dump in Honduras vs living in USA, legally or illegaly.


I'd say the gov. is creating the problem in the first place by not providing a legla frame of immigration. USA isnt the only country in the world with immigration problems, but its the one that is handling it the worst.
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL

A purported crisis doesn't make an already illegal offense, legal or right.

Right, but we all know what we would do in that same situation. We'd all do the same thing they are doing. No sane person with half a braincell would pick living in some dump in Honduras vs living in USA, legally or illegaly.

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They are invaders, and our government is helping them for political gain.

I'd say the gov. is creating the problem in the first place by not providing a legla frame of immigration. USA isnt the only country in the world with immigration problems, but its the one that is handling it the worst.
FerFAL

Are you ok? Your question has already been answered. There is, and always has been a legal method to immigrate into this country. You are correct, the US is handling it incorrectly, they(illegal immigrants) should be deported immediately with not one penny of my tax dollars providing for their: medical, food , or water, spend that money on extra transportation  to get them the fuck out of the country until they enter legally.. Let me be clear I don't give a flying fuck if they die, maybe if they did start dieing, others would stop coming.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 9:09:51 AM EDT
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No man, its me that should be apologizing. I didn’t know that as Catholics we were supposed to destroy America. Guess I didn’t get the memo.
How dare I say that the blatantly anti-Catholic youtube video you posted was blatantly anti-Catholic?


(silent clap…)
You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
I’ll go now and gather with my socialist latino Catholic brothers, think of new ways to destroy America.
FerFAL
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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.


No man, its me that should be apologizing. I didn’t know that as Catholics we were supposed to destroy America. Guess I didn’t get the memo.
How dare I say that the blatantly anti-Catholic youtube video you posted was blatantly anti-Catholic?

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You have made me realize what a racist I am.

I'm out.

Not quite sure why you still show the Argentine flag,

but I certainly hope you enjoy the opportunity provided to you by the labors of the people of Ireland.


Have a nice day.



Well, you sure give up easily....

Don't you understand, Ferfal MAY be here to promote his new book [check out the last topic he started], and with this nutty topic/rant he started got more than he expected?

He basically outed himself...





(silent clap…)
You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
I’ll go now and gather with my socialist latino Catholic brothers, think of new ways to destroy America.
FerFAL



You and tinhat ranch should hang out LOL ....

Between the two of you'd your book with go #1 ...and hell make documentary on your Exodus from BA...

LOL fucking Emmy award shit for sure LOL

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Link Posted: 7/20/2014 1:26:10 PM EDT
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Our Nation is in its own crisis, both in security and from an economic standpoint. More concern is placed on produce, livestock, and other agricultural products coming in to ensure that undesirable diseases or invasive species aren't being brought in inadvertently than in the potential for the health, security, and economic effects of these humans illegally entering the country, and the negative effects that they (and their potential offspring through multiple generations) will have if allowed to remain within our borders. And why are these children being called "unaccompanied minors" instead of what they are- RUNAWAYS? On security- I attended language school in the early 1990s when I was in the US Army. My instructor (who was from a mideast country we are currently not on the best terms with) in the mid 70s entered the US illegally via MEXICO, after being a passenger on a series of ships. He then paid a coyote to get him across the border in Mexicali, after which he made his way to Chicago. Once there, he assimilated himself into the muslim community, where he worked as a taxi driver for 7 years ILLEGALLY. He then began the procedures to obtain US citizenship, receiving this privilege in the mid 1980s. He obtained his job as a DOD language instructor in 1992. Here's the point to the story- this man, when he embarked on this journey- had no knowledge of either English or Spanish! He had no military background, and no special skill set other than what knowledge he had obtained in his youth, in a village as a sheep farmer, with no running water or electricity! He was able to function in the windy city and drive a taxi, with no driver's license, ID, etc.! If a guy like this who only wanted to live in the US can pull off such a feat, how hard could it be for those who desire to enter our country for the purpose of conducting terrorism or other forms of mayhem? Think about it! I respect those who have turned their back on their own, inferior countries, and embarked on the long and difficult journey to become productive, law abiding citizens of the best place to live on the planet. Immigrants built this country. In many cases, they fought and died- in huge numbers- in the defense of our Nation.  The diversity that we as Americans enjoy in all aspects of our lives - food, entertainment, culture, sports, and everything else- is thanks to the generations of brave men and women who strove to improve their lot in life and overcame some of the worst adversities, beyond what most Americans could ever imagine. I welcome this diversity, for it makes us richer in every sense. But it cannot come at the expense of security or more economic hardship to the many. If you want the honor of being an American you must respect our laws. This begins with compliance with the legal immigration process. Our government MUST secure our borders, and MUST enforce applicable laws. Anything less is criminal on their part.
Link Posted: 7/20/2014 2:54:00 PM EDT
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Our Nation is in its own crisis, both in security and from an economic standpoint. More concern is placed on produce, livestock, and other agricultural products coming in to ensure that undesirable diseases or invasive species aren't being brought in inadvertently than in the potential for the health, security, and economic effects of these humans illegally entering the country, and the negative effects that they (and their potential offspring through multiple generations) will have if allowed to remain within our borders. And why are these children being called "unaccompanied minors" instead of what they are- RUNAWAYS? On security- I attended language school in the early 1990s when I was in the US Army. My instructor (who was from a mideast country we are currently not on the best terms with) in the mid 70s entered the US illegally via MEXICO, after being a passenger on a series of ships. He then paid a coyote to get him across the border in Mexicali, after which he made his way to Chicago. Once there, he assimilated himself into the muslim community, where he worked as a taxi driver for 7 years ILLEGALLY. He then began the procedures to obtain US citizenship, receiving this privilege in the mid 1980s. He obtained his job as a DOD language instructor in 1992. Here's the point to the story- this man, when he embarked on this journey- had no knowledge of either English or Spanish! He had no military background, and no special skill set other than what knowledge he had obtained in his youth, in a village as a sheep farmer, with no running water or electricity! He was able to function in the windy city and drive a taxi, with no driver's license, ID, etc.! If a guy like this who only wanted to live in the US can pull off such a feat, how hard could it be for those who desire to enter our country for the purpose of conducting terrorism or other forms of mayhem? Think about it! I respect those who have turned their back on their own, inferior countries, and embarked on the long and difficult journey to become productive, law abiding citizens of the best place to live on the planet. Immigrants built this country. In many cases, they fought and died- in huge numbers- in the defense of our Nation.  The diversity that we as Americans enjoy in all aspects of our lives - food, entertainment, culture, sports, and everything else- is thanks to the generations of brave men and women who strove to improve their lot in life and overcame some of the worst adversities, beyond what most Americans could ever imagine. I welcome this diversity, for it makes us richer in every sense. But it cannot come at the expense of security or more economic hardship to the many. If you want the honor of being an American you must respect our laws. This begins with compliance with the legal immigration process. Our government MUST secure our borders, and MUST enforce applicable laws. Anything less is criminal on their part.
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Holy shit.....that's a wall of text that would put 85% of GD into a coma ...LOL


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Link Posted: 7/20/2014 5:19:00 PM EDT
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You discovered my master plan EXPY.  
Post here since 2006, over 2000 posts, pretend to be part of the community, only to eight years later post about an email I got about homesteads burning down in Oregon and people having to bug out and in that email put a link to the original article in my own website, which happens to have a link to my new book. It’s the perfect plan. Up until you brought it up my book hadn’t been mentioned in this thread but that was part of the plan too.
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That was genius. The long-term vision and precise carry through. Amazing example of how to plan your work and work your plan.

I must have missed the book plug in the Oregon fire thread, I didn't click on the link. I already knew about the fires in Oregon. Your evil genius plan didn't work on me.

FerFAL, immigration is a subject that many people in the US feel passionate about, it's an existential question about the future of our nation. It often brings out the worst in folks, on both sides of the issue.
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.




I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?

FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?



A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?

 

B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 8:23:41 AM EDT
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I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL


you ever heard the term, you can take a girl out of the trailer park, but you cant take the trailer park out of the girl.



sometimes.. other peoples problems... our not our problems.. if their life expectancy is shit. are we going to move the entire country to the US to make it better. no... because it would make this country more like theirs... which is the opposite of what we want.

bleeding heart liberal ideology...       useless.

ETA:

let take that image on a better scale..

ever been to the town of Gary, IN. well its not a nice place. low income and gangs. one of the most dangerous citys in the US.

well to better the people and give them chances at a new life and a better area. we are going to have the government move them into a million dollar neighborhood, provide them a house, food and money. so they can live like millionaires and be just as good and knowledgeable  as the rest of the people in that nice neighborhood.

well buy your understanding these people should make better lives for themselves,, of course they would they are living in a great area,

but the area as a whole crime, unemployment and education will go down.

that is Obamas master plan. and because you think everybody deserves to come as they want, is the problem.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:03:41 AM EDT
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Texas has 100,000+ illegal alien FELONS in our prisons right this minute.  They are there because they committed murder, rape, aggravated assault, grand theft, home invasions, etc, etc.   It's nice to pretend that illegals are just innocents wanting a better life.  But truth is most come from war-torn criminal infested Marxist countries with no understanding of American history or Freedom.  In fact, what many of them are doing is bringing 3rd world alien death and destruction to the USA.  

By the way, I live 20 minutes from the border and all but one of 300+ people in my neighborhood are Latino...............and all the ones I've talked to want the border secured just like I do.
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Ever hear the expression...

"Falling on deaf ears..."




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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?

A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?  
B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?

Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL
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Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?

A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?  
B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?

Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL


Well, I know one scumbag I'm never buying any books from.


Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:08:22 PM EDT
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Politicians thrive on division. Come down hard on one side or the other of a heated, divisive topic and you have an instant constituency. These divisive issues are also distracting. So, while we're fixated on the effect (illegal immigration, in this case) the cause goes unnoticed and untreated, just they way "they" want it.

Most of us need to get our own heads out of our own asses. Immigration isn't the problem. Abortion isn't the problem. Debt isn't the problem. Militarization of domestic law enforcement isn't the problem.

These are all symptoms and manifestations of the real problem(s), ones that are created behind the scenes in wealthy quorums and cadres that make backroom deals on how best to divide up the world amongst them and how to keep "we the people" off-balance, mesmerized and intellectually placated by the soup du jour.

If it's an issue in the "news," that should tell you all you need to know.

Illegal immigration is a symptom. Getting hung up on it is simply a distraction.
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Couldnt agree with you more

If it's an issue in the "news," that should tell you all you need to know.

Man, aint that the truth. I hardly even bother watching the news any more. When I do I zap through CNN, FOX, CBS, Blumberg, Chinese news, Russian TV, Aljazira or wahtever its called and laugh a bit about how biased each one is before turning it off. You know what's really scary, the times when they all repeat the same BS!
FerFAL
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Ohh poor Fernando ....you and your sandy blonde wife wouldn't get a second glance over here.(now where's that picture..)..so stop playing race baiter.

You don't need to be an ""immigrant "" to have folks react negatively to you. Hell wanna know what its like being a ""white " while working in the Hood...but then again class warfare /discrimination isn't nothing new to you is it...."ohhh I was shocked that our dinner guest asked to take the left overs home..."" paraphrased of course since I'm on my phone.

Anyone illegal is just that. I could give two shits about where they come from or what damn color they are.
Wanna know why...my dad immigranted here...I'm part American Indian...my brother in law is Jamaican and sister in-law Puertorican ...

Come here the right way...plain an simple...

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Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.


A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.


B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.


I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.


About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.


This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.


FerFAL


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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.






I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?


FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?





A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?  


B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?





Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.


A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.


B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.


I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.


About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.


This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.


FerFAL


You didn`t answer my question. If I was living in South America, I might would come here illegally. I never blamed anyone for wanting to come here. It is clear your mind is made up that opposing our insecure borders, massive immigration, and all the problems it causes, is just racism. You are refusing to see the list of obvious reasons.






Immigration here and in many other nations is too much, too fast, and it is causing problems that are growing daily with no end in sight. It isn`t any wonder why UKIP and other strong national identity groups are emerging. England now allows sharia law for Muslims in civil matters. Think about what else will change when their population continues to grow year after year.







The reasons for lobbies, and or politicians who want and allow this massive immigration isn`t lost on us either, we would gladly deport every one of them too.







I could go on for a long time listing reasons, but in short, the costs, financially, politically, and culturally, is like I said, suicidal. But hey, racism. Makes me wonder why you and everyone else wants to move here to such a racist place that will discriminate against you and make you miserable.




As for the thread not going like you had hoped, that can always happen when you are telling us we don`t know what we are talking about and that we are racists.

 
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Actually, no.  I don't have to eat a crap sandwich to understand it's not a good and pleasant thing.  "You have to experience it to understand it" is a left-wing nullity that implies that the entire field of anthropology (and sociology) is worthless.

And I can't accept that contention.

Otherwise, decent points.

Okay, carry on like I'm not here, folks.  
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You didn`t answer my question. If I was living in South America, I might would come here illegally. I never blamed anyone for wanting to come here. It is clear your mind is made up that opposing our insecure borders, massive immigration, and all the problems it causes, is just racism. You are refusing to see the list of obvious reasons.

Immigration here and in many other nations is too much, too fast, and it is causing problems that are growing daily with no end in sight. It isn`t any wonder why UKIP and other strong national identity groups are emerging. England now allows sharia law for Muslims in civil matters. Think about what else will change when their population continues to grow year after year.

The reasons for lobbies, and or politicians who want and allow this massive immigration isn`t lost on us either, we would gladly deport every one of them too.

I could go on for a long time listing reasons, but in short, the costs, financially, politically, and culturally, is like I said, suicidal. But hey, racism. Makes me wonder why you and everyone else wants to move here to such a racist place that will discriminate against you and make you miserable.

As for the thread not going like you had hoped, that can always happen when you are telling us we don`t know what we are talking about and that we are racists.
 
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?

A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?  
B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?

Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL
You didn`t answer my question. If I was living in South America, I might would come here illegally. I never blamed anyone for wanting to come here. It is clear your mind is made up that opposing our insecure borders, massive immigration, and all the problems it causes, is just racism. You are refusing to see the list of obvious reasons.

Immigration here and in many other nations is too much, too fast, and it is causing problems that are growing daily with no end in sight. It isn`t any wonder why UKIP and other strong national identity groups are emerging. England now allows sharia law for Muslims in civil matters. Think about what else will change when their population continues to grow year after year.

The reasons for lobbies, and or politicians who want and allow this massive immigration isn`t lost on us either, we would gladly deport every one of them too.

I could go on for a long time listing reasons, but in short, the costs, financially, politically, and culturally, is like I said, suicidal. But hey, racism. Makes me wonder why you and everyone else wants to move here to such a racist place that will discriminate against you and make you miserable.

As for the thread not going like you had hoped, that can always happen when you are telling us we don`t know what we are talking about and that we are racists.
 


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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.  That alone I find ridiculous and insulting.  People like me who believe the way I do are not toothless hillbillies who go to family reunions to hit on our cousins.  You would be very surprised if I showed you a family photo.   Also understand that many of us would be much more open to a pathway to citizenship for illegals IF the borders were actually secure, and the law was actually being followed.  I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.



Here is a picture of a young lady who ran into the back of me last year.  She was very nice until she realized I was calling the police.  She tried to get into her car and leave (wouldn't start, and radiator was empty by then), so she just stood like this until the police showed up.  I got called into court (had to take a day off), but guess who didn't show.  Did I mention she didn't have insurance, a real drivers license (fake), and I never did find out who owned the car.  I had to pay the $300 deductible for a new rear bumper.
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Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL
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There is a legal way. These illegals don't want to follow the rules. They prefer to break the law instead of abiding by it and waiting their turn.


I have a simple question. What would you do? Your choices are a) live in Honduras, life expectancy 30 or you move to USA as an illegal, which one would you do?
FerFAL
What do you do if you`re an American living in America?

A. Let all the 3rd world in knowing it will lead to political, economic, and cultural suicide?  
B. Fight it and be labeled a racist?

Not answering my question first goes to show you wouldn’t have liked the answer, but I will answer yours.
A. I would know better than blaming a barefoot 10 year old, (or any other immigrant for that matter) for a socioeconomic disaster that started in 1913 and got out of control in 1971.
B. About racism... if the hat fits... This thread proves it time and again. Some people are against illegals. Others are against immigrants. Others are against those dirty toothless Lations or commie Catholics. Again, I'm not saying anything that hasn’t been said in this same thread.
I learned two things about being an immigrant and being discriminated against: You just don’t get it unless you've been in those shoes yourself. The day someone treats you like shit because of your religion, country of origin or skin color, or simply being an immigrant, that's the day you'll start to understand what its like.
About understanding why it is that certain lobbies want illegals in the country, let them in and then manipulate sheep into blaming them for all the misery they caused and profited from themselves, I see how that's just too much to ask from some people.
This thread sure isnt pretty, and I knew from the go that it was a tad more dangerous than another 9mm vs 45 ACP or how to close a mylar bag, but its good to know people's true colors and it basically confirms my concerns regarding where this is going.
FerFAL



that settles it,,, this guy is fucking delusional,

if you truly see racist remarks in the comments others have been making.. than its because you are projecting your own prejudice feelings on the people trying to save what they love.

maybe you should leave this country before it winds up like yours.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 8:02:06 PM EDT
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In my experience, republicans and conservatives (not coterminous) genuinely tend to judge people by their character not skin or nation of origin. Listen to how they speak of their own partisans....it's not based on sex, color, or socio-economic pecking order but on BELIEF: so there are social conservatives or moderates, fiscal conservatives or moderates, foreign policy hawks or doves. Ditto with the Tea Party. They divide themselves based on policy preferences.

The democrats, progressives, liberals etc. on the other hand CLAIM to be against racism, sexism, homophobia and class warfare...but that's precisely how they define their own coalitions: the black vote, the woman's vote, the blue collar vote, the gay vote.... people are not grouped primarily by their individual beliefs and preferences but by their skin, sex, orientation, and socio-economic status.

You're special only if you fall into a victim hierarchy - all pointing towards the only 'adults in the room': white conservative men.

White conservative men are the only ones who are expected to just suck it up, not complain, pay the bills, and shut up. Everyone ELSE is expected to not be capable of handling the same level of work, education, law abiding or civilized behavior without some sort of special handout or refereeing by the all-powerful regulatory state to make sure the big bad evil meanspirited white conservative males behave themselves.

You see this everywhere. Look how the left wing media handles 60 shooting deaths in Chicago -with a yawn - it's taken for granted that they're all a bunch of savages. But if this happened in a white neighborhood in say, Oakland county, Michigan, it would be nightly news and the National Guard would be rolling out in MRAPS. Let a million gang bangers be armed and it's "meh" but let 100,000 white guys form militias and there are whole task forces and fusion centers set up to keep tabs on them.

As a white conservative male, I'm chagrined by all this, this double standard. In the same breath the smug liberal will insist that white conservative men are INFERIOR to their awesome moral and intellectual superior liberal progressive brain....they'll ACT and treat us as the only adults, the only ones capable of moral behavior, the only ones truly responsible for our behavior - the only ones who have no one ELSE to blame for our actions.

Everyone else (themselves included) have someone else to blame for their lives' misery (conservative white men). It would be funny if the legal and social results weren't so devastating. Feminists, gays, black activists, latino racists ("La Raza" anyone?) the commies, cartels, oligarchs etc. all paint us as the enemy to pay the bills for reparation, wealth transfer, taxes, etc. all while brow beating us into feeling guilty for everything our forefathers did and accomplished.

It's enough to make one mildly annoyed. I wouldn't say angry because if I'm to be painted as some intrinsically superior being then I guess I'd better live up to the expectation!

Consider the situation..... the left behaves in the fashion they accuse us of behaving..... and while they claim intellectual and moral superiority, they act as though only their hated enemies (white conservative men) are adults in a land of teenagers and children incapable of acting appropriately.

As a matter of religion and philosophy I reject this characterization - we're not intrinsically superior. It's largely a matter of culture which is produced by our religious and ethnic cultural heritage. Let any woman, ethnic minority male adopt some of our cultural habits and beliefs and they too will enter into an objectively superior way of life (but thereby take up the mantel of moral and intellectual responsibility for the nation and ultimately the world.)

To the degree any immigrant adopts my cultural outlook, I'm happy to welcome them to the club. Anyone can join. But to join you have to know it's possible, that one's race, sex, and status does not impair or preclude your membership and this is what the left is doing everything that can to keep from happening. They have been stirring up race wars and race animosity.....gender wars and gender animosity, and class warfare and animosity for nearly a century. They need chaos to justify the police state that is needed to sweep away the old order. It's classic marxism. And it's doomed.

Traditional Marxism works only when real men have a viable safety valve, viable alternative to flee to. But when your back is to the wall and there is no where else to migrate to, then men will do what men have always had to do.
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Yep!

Become MetroSexuals!


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I wish there was a pink ...I mean coral...I mean salmon ...uhhh..multicam ..

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I'll just leave this here.


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In my experience, republicans and conservatives (not coterminous) genuinely tend to judge people by their character not skin or nation of origin. Listen to how they speak of their own partisans....it's not based on sex, color, or socio-economic pecking order but on BELIEF: so there are social conservatives or moderates, fiscal conservatives or moderates, foreign policy hawks or doves. Ditto with the Tea Party. They divide themselves based on policy preferences.

The democrats, progressives, liberals etc. on the other hand CLAIM to be against racism, sexism, homophobia and class warfare...but that's precisely how they define their own coalitions: the black vote, the woman's vote, the blue collar vote, the gay vote.... people are not grouped primarily by their individual beliefs and preferences but by their skin, sex, orientation, and socio-economic status.

You're special only if you fall into a victim hierarchy - all pointing towards the only 'adults in the room': white conservative men.

White conservative men are the only ones who are expected to just suck it up, not complain, pay the bills, and shut up. Everyone ELSE is expected to not be capable of handling the same level of work, education, law abiding or civilized behavior without some sort of special handout or refereeing by the all-powerful regulatory state to make sure the big bad evil meanspirited white conservative males behave themselves.

You see this everywhere. Look how the left wing media handles 60 shooting deaths in Chicago -with a yawn - it's taken for granted that they're all a bunch of savages. But if this happened in a white neighborhood in say, Oakland county, Michigan, it would be nightly news and the National Guard would be rolling out in MRAPS. Let a million gang bangers be armed and it's "meh" but let 100,000 white guys form militias and there are whole task forces and fusion centers set up to keep tabs on them.

As a white conservative male, I'm chagrined by all this, this double standard. In the same breath the smug liberal will insist that white conservative men are INFERIOR to their awesome moral and intellectual superior liberal progressive brain....they'll ACT and treat us as the only adults, the only ones capable of moral behavior, the only ones truly responsible for our behavior - the only ones who have no one ELSE to blame for our actions.

Everyone else (themselves included) have someone else to blame for their lives' misery (conservative white men). It would be funny if the legal and social results weren't so devastating. Feminists, gays, black activists, latino racists ("La Raza" anyone?) the commies, cartels, oligarchs etc. all paint us as the enemy to pay the bills for reparation, wealth transfer, taxes, etc. all while brow beating us into feeling guilty for everything our forefathers did and accomplished.

It's enough to make one mildly annoyed. I wouldn't say angry because if I'm to be painted as some intrinsically superior being then I guess I'd better live up to the expectation!

Consider the situation..... the left behaves in the fashion they accuse us of behaving..... and while they claim intellectual and moral superiority, they act as though only their hated enemies (white conservative men) are adults in a land of teenagers and children incapable of acting appropriately.

As a matter of religion and philosophy I reject this characterization - we're not intrinsically superior. It's largely a matter of culture which is produced by our religious and ethnic cultural heritage. Let any woman, ethnic minority male adopt some of our cultural habits and beliefs and they too will enter into an objectively superior way of life (but thereby take up the mantel of moral and intellectual responsibility for the nation and ultimately the world.)

To the degree any immigrant adopts my cultural outlook, I'm happy to welcome them to the club. Anyone can join. But to join you have to know it's possible, that one's race, sex, and status does not impair or preclude your membership and this is what the left is doing everything that can to keep from happening. They have been stirring up race wars and race animosity.....gender wars and gender animosity, and class warfare and animosity for nearly a century. They need chaos to justify the police state that is needed to sweep away the old order. It's classic marxism. And it's doomed.

Traditional Marxism works only when real men have a viable safety valve, viable alternative to flee to. But when your back is to the wall and there is no where else to migrate to, then men will do what men have always had to do.
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Extremely well said.

As to you Ferfal, I'm really saddened that you've played into the race baiting. Sometimes a person is so convinced that everyone is racist and against them, that nothing said can ever change their mind - and I feel you are doing this. It is offensive to me, and every other decent US citizen here. I respect you and your posts, but I'm sorry you've been blinded in this.
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As some of you know I am emigrating to Panama. I have felt the "sting" of racism there myself. I have had people refuse to even speak to me because of my skin color. It is by no means most people but it does happen. It is really a chore to move there and gain permanent residency. Yet, I as well as the other expats do it the right way. I have never met an illegal there, but then again Panama doesn't give you anything free.

I guess the point is I never thought to blame the difficulties of moving there on racism. I just accept it is not my country and I have to do it the right way.
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most people I know don't care the about the color of the person  but rather why people think its OK to come to country illegally; shit on the laws of the host country then demand rights, education, health care, jobs and food. I work hard to provide for my children and follow the laws of my country; these laws are not always convenient but are followed as this is what society has dictated to be lawful. Coming hear out right illegally, is insult and disrespect to entire society, then demanding the same rights of a lawful citizen and you want open arms? Ultimately anger can and will manifest into many things and I think you have valid concern for those individuals that come hear lawfully and respectfully will get categorized because  they share the same heritage as the majority of offending people.To this I have no solution . I hope it does not come down to hate and violence.
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.
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As some of you know I am emigrating to Panama. I have felt the "sting" of racism there myself. I have had people refuse to even speak to me because of my skin color. It is by no means most people but it does happen. .

Its not easy, and wait until you spend a couple years there. Better yet, wait until its not you, but your kids that feel that “sting”. It will be more like a kick in the balls rather than a sting.

It is really a chore to move there and gain permanent residency. Yet, I as well as the other expats do it the right way. I have never met an illegal there, but then again Panama doesn't give you anything free.
I guess the point is I never thought to blame the difficulties of moving there on racism. I just accept it is not my country and I have to do it the right way.

Man, Panama is one of the easiest countries to immigrate to, a joke compared to USA.
With an income of less than 1.500 USD a month you’re in, even for old, retired people that no developed nation in the world would take unless the invest millions, like 5 million USD for Australia. There’s all sorts of investor visa as well. Panama is the exact opposite of USA when it comes to immigration. Man, I would have moved to USA a decade ago if it had been as easy as moving to Panama. Canada for example, they are not as easy as Panama but if you are in good health, show you have a reasonable income then they have a visa for you. You can get into Canada both as a self employed person or as self sufficient. You don’t have neither one in USA, you must be hired by someone and not just anyone, it has to be a big enough company and there must be proof that there’s no American that can do that same job. Talk about a very different level of difficulty.
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Link Posted: 7/23/2014 2:28:30 PM EDT
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That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.

I feel no guilt for the money I earn, nor feel any need to give it away to everyone that jumps the border.  Allowing ILLEGAL INVADERS to milk the system at the expense of others is unacceptable.  Capitalism built the strongest nation on the planet.  Where has communism succeeded?  We are generous to a fault, and to our own detriment.   We borrow money, then give it away for free.  This is not a sustainable situation.  

Man, Panama is one of the easiest countries to immigrate to, a joke compared to USA.
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It's easy because they don't have a thousands of people every day trying to get in.  They offer ZERO benefits, so it's a win for them.  Eliminating all financial/educational/medical assistance is one of the first things we should do.  Is there any country on the planet that offers the level of opportunity and free handouts to invaders?  America is not the safety net for the whole world, and most of us have no wish to enjoy the shared misery caused by unfettered invasion.  The world has changed..... the vacancy light needs to be turned off.


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I know how hard it is to get into the USA.  My wife is a foreign national.  It took three years, a lawyer, 10 grand, and about a hundred pages of red tape to get her here.  She has been here 4.5 years, and we still don't have her 10 year green card yet, but I certainly have paid the fees to keep her here, with no end in sight.  I had to put myself on the line if she ever became a ward of the state (any financial aid will be billed back to me).   I brought her here the right way, not sneaking her in under the cover of darkness, to suckle the teat of a government determined to make the USA a third world shithole.  Shared misery while the government elite skim all of the cream is a communist agenda, and I am not OK with that.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 3:15:32 PM EDT
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I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.


Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 3:51:57 PM EDT
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So much racism here. Criminals as a race ARE discriminated against in the US, and we should be ashamed of ourselves for it.
Maybe one day we'll see the light and let all the dregs of humanity in to rape, beat murder, hit, rob and kidnap the people Americans are too lazy to brutalize.
The 100,000 illegal alien felons mentioned earlier in this thread that are imprisoned in Texas alone speaks to this terrible, endemic, pervasive racism.

Criminal illegal invaders need their Rosa Parks to stand up & demand their seat so they can stop being treated better than our citizen criminal race. The shame.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/05/u-s-frees-36007-illegal-aliens-serious-criminal-convictions/
http://truthuncensored.net/elderly-woman-nearly-beaten-to-death-by-illegal-immigrant-speaks-out/
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-beat-raped-woman-for-days-front-of-her-children-oklahoma
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/05/illegal-immigrant-imprisons-woman-in-chains-repeatedly-beats-rapes-her-for-18-months-video/
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/05/20/7-horrible-crimes-committed-in-america-by-illegal-aliens-n1840468/page/full

I could post tens of thousands of links like these that demonstrate our racism.

Look at how well they assimilate. They're waving our flag!


They love America!


Link in case this video doesn't work. Let them in, racists! http://www.mrconservative.com/2014/04/38534-extremely-graphic-video-men-beheaded-with-chainsaw-by-mexican-cartel-21/
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 5:04:39 PM EDT
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Funny, we somehow had this very same discussion at work today during lunch.  And predictably, it too turned into a shit show very quickly.  A lot of unwarranted hate for Hispanics for sure.  I decided to play devil's advocate and took a position not unlike the one Ferfal stated at the beginning.  What a fucking mistake that was.  I did learn that you can almost tell which media outlets people get their "information" from by the jingoistic and completely one sided arguments they blindly stick too.  And god help anyone who tries to point out the obvious flaws in their cherished myths and completely baseless opinions.  I guess some of thats to be expected when you work in a union shop.  A lot of paranoia and insecurity on a good day.

Having spent time in more third wold dives and shitholes than i ever wanted to, and seeing first hand what the rest of the planet gets to deal with every day, i can not fault people for doing whatever it takes to get their children into this country. I would do the same and not give it a second thought if i were in the position of having to make that choice.

The only thing that upsets me about this whole issue is the federal governments complete unwillingness to take action.  Any action. I don't care if they turn the border into a big fucking wire/mine obstacle or if they open it up to the world.  Just do something productive and then deal with it.  This inaction is fixing nothing.  This thing isnt going away any time soon.

Everytime a state tries to take it upon itself to do something useful the ACLU or some other group gets involved and the whole mess ends up in court.


I heard Gov Perry announced today that he is mobilizing the guard to reenforce the border.  Good job guy, what is this going to accomplish exactly?  The most recent problem isnt catching people at the border, its figuring out what to do with them once they are here waiting to go before one of a handful of immigration judges.  Judges who by the way are on a 3 to 6 year backlog, depending on who you listen to.  So what the is the national guard going to accomplish that border control isnt already doing?


If its not obvious yet, I think Ferfal hit the nail on the head on this issue.  Say the n-word in the wrong company and people think you're Hitler, but talk shit about "dirty" Mexicans and people make jokes.  Everybody thinks they have the answer to all of our immigration problems, and can sum up the whole issue in a one sentence statement.  Like its just that simple.


Also typing all this on an iphone really is shit, if it makes no sense, blame Apple.
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Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.


Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...

Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
FerFAL

Link Posted: 7/23/2014 5:46:28 PM EDT
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Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.


Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...

Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
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Please quote the posts, because I don't see what you are talking about.  All I see is a broken record of people fed up with our laws being broken.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 5:50:37 PM EDT
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Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.


Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...

Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
FerFAL



You're full of it. Show me ONE post where someone says they have a problem with "latinos." And you have one youtube vid that mentions Catholics.
The rest of us just want to keep parasites and leftist scum who think we should let them in just because they want to come here out.

Illegals and their enablers & apologists are unpopular here. IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE RACIST.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 5:50:49 PM EDT
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The two brothers I grew up with, that were born in Ecuador, that legally emigrated to the US- have railed more AGAINST illegal immigrants than ANY quote unquote "white" person I know.

They came here with nothing and worked their asses off. By the time we were in high school their Dad got injured badly. While everyone else was working part time for beer and fun money, these two were supporting their folks and two sisters. The younger brother joined the guard at 17, he's well past having his 20 years in but is still in, was in Iraq a couple times. Become a PA and is now becoming a doctor. These guys know hard work, they are not racists.

But like I said, I've NEVER heard anyone rail against illegal immigration so much as I've heard it from them the last couple years...
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No doubt I get the vibe that you (FerFAL) feel that people like me who are against illegal immigration are racists.

I’m not responsible for any vibes you may feel. I have no idea what you believe in or not. Its one thing to be against illegal immigrants and is another to hate on people, immigrants or in the case of some racist that have posted here, Latinos, Catholics or just immigrants in general. If you fail to see the racism and hate posted by several members in this thread alone then I cant help you.
I for one am fed up with people who see our country as a rich, easy welfare target, when we are borrowing 50 cents of every dollar we spend.  This country is going down in it's current form.

That thing which you say yourself to be fed up with, do you realize that those that caused it and became filthy rich thanks to it, that it’s a handful of people, none of which happen to be immigrants. You do know that, right? You do realize, that the debt you are worried about made someone very rich, and that whenever you “give away” (lets call it that) money for “free” there’s always going to be someone willing to take it, immigrant or not.


Illegal immigration is wrong.  There is no racism in having a problem with people (anyone!) breaking our laws in getting here, all the while saying they are owed food, money, and education.  If you can't get that, then It's I, that can't help you.  

I am extremely dissapointed with this thread.  I read your book, and admired what you went through.  I am in disbelief in what I'm hearing...

Some here have a problem with illegal immigrants, that I understand, but others have a problem with Latinos, immigrants in general and for fucks sake, even Catholics. Its all here in the thread. You thought I would support hate and discrimination towards Latinos, Catholics and immigrants?
FerFAL




To think..all those illegals pushing Jews (only by religion)  back to Israel .....

Fact is..our country is being flooded by an "illegal " class of people. Our government. Fails to act.

Its pretty simple come here legally or expect. To be deported...detained etc.

Your country seemed to love to harbor illegals of a certain "Germanic " origin ....or do they still..


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