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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:27:50 PM EDT
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Depends....
Is there any water deeper down? How cheap is the property? If "Yes" and "pretty cheap", then I would consider it. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:31:55 PM EDT
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Has anyone looked at the well?
I used to do residential well work, ask around and see if there are any well service companies nearby that could develop the well. Was something large recently built, like a huge farm or something that could be drawing down the aquifer? |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:36:01 PM EDT
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I'm in Michigan. What's a dry well?
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:36:15 PM EDT
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Quoted: WWYD - what would you do? Seen a nice piece of property for sale, problem is, it has a 400-500ft well and the realtor says it runs dry, reason the property been on the market for 2 years. Their solution is to build a cistern. Im just thinking mmmm, being that water is our life blood, be nice to have a steady supply. Would you pass on the property solely based on this? Try and dig a deeper well, if possible? Build a cistern and water tower? OK well, are you in FL or southern Idaho? Secondly, I would buy the land and do my laundry elsewhere until I found out more about the well issue..... and I built a water tower. water towers are awesome and are a great survival tool too. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:53:19 PM EDT
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Property is in WVa. The problem is there are roads built behind the 12acres of the property that looks like it could be a developement, dont know if they would do well stuff or try to do a water system.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 2:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Property is in WVa. The problem is there are roads built behind the 12acres of the property that looks like it could be a developement, dont know if they would do well stuff or try to do a water system. how close it is to Pittsburgh? ETA.. I can run down and take a looksee. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 3:03:56 PM EDT
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I would find out from a well company what it would take to fix it or dig a new well. Then I would offer them a price minus what it would take to develop water for the property. This price would take into account many of the unknowns with the well. It might be the only offer they get, and they could be ripe to take whatever offer they get. If not, look elsewhere, I guess.
Overscoped- that is a very generous offer you gave.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 3:26:26 PM EDT
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how close it is to Pittsburgh? ETA.. I can run down and take a looksee. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Property is in WVa. The problem is there are roads built behind the 12acres of the property that looks like it could be a developement, dont know if they would do well stuff or try to do a water system. ETA.. I can run down and take a looksee. Appreciate it, its southern WV. Greenbriar area. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:24:32 PM EDT
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I have a friend that could probably fix the well. Let me know if you want some details.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:31:17 PM EDT
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Appreciate it, its southern WV. Greenbriar area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Property is in WVa. The problem is there are roads built behind the 12acres of the property that looks like it could be a developement, dont know if they would do well stuff or try to do a water system. ETA.. I can run down and take a looksee. Appreciate it, its southern WV. Greenbriar area. Greenbrier, that's me. Our well at the cabin is about 160' deep but we only have 100' of pipe. Maybe adding more pipe would help? Most wells in Greenbrier use a filtration and softener and I've heard of a few going dry in the summer months. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:33:48 PM EDT
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What is the deal with water rights on the property?
Perhaps that development on the other side is beyond their allotted usage, or the property has no water rights at all. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:56:22 PM EDT
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I'm from Minnesota.
What are water rights?  I would poke around with the questions to local well drill companies. Also, look into those "water rights" things. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:25:31 PM EDT
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I would pass on that property. That well could become a money pit.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:35:52 PM EDT
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Over drill a bit more for reservoir and frack it for better recovery. If it's still an issue, then the tower would be a good idea. Reflect those costs with your bid on the property if you are willing to get the work done to have good water on your property.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:51:17 PM EDT
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I'd be pretty leery of it w/o the financial incentive to fix it. If it's already 4-500' deep, how much deeper can you go, and what could you expect to get from that? How often is it dry? During heavy use all year long? Heavy use during a dry summer? Every summer? If it's only occasionally during dry summers, you could fill a cistern in the spring and use it during the dry months. I've never heard of anyone building a personal water tower around here, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. A pump inside of a buried cistern sounds like a lot less hassle, especially during the cold months. Whatever you end up with, I'd make sure it's something that is both reliable and simple enough to not devalue the property. You don't want to be the next guy sitting on this place for two years if you have to sell it for some reason... |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:38:42 AM EDT
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The property is suppose to be worth 160k but they are selling for 140k to giver allowance for a cistern.
Apparently with daily heavy water use, you can run the well dry quickly and it takes 2-3 days to recover. Meaning, its not a seasonal thing, its a daily/weekly thing. Im gonna pass on this property. Between the water and the future developement in the "back yard", its not worth it in the long run, this is suppose to be a retirement home for me, not just a casual place to visit, last thing I want to deal with when I get old is water (not sayin that cant happen anywhere) but this being a known issue is a deal breaker. No matter what property I own, im gonna have major water storage regardless of the water situation. so a cistern and/or tower is already in my plans. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:18:07 AM EDT
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Are all wells in that area that deep?
Define heavy useage. I would see about digging another well but these days it can be a bigger problem than it used to be. I don't really have an issue with a cistern but I agree it is nice to have a source of water like a lake or well or something to work with if there is no rain for a long period of time. To some extent I would also want to see the bottom of that well and see what is going on before just saying it is toast. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:30:45 AM EDT
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even southern WV winters can be difficult... perhaps you should be looking in Western NC.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:47:34 AM EDT
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Depends.... Is there any water deeper down? How cheap is the property? If "Yes" and "pretty cheap", then I would consider it. this, also if it wasnt too much money to dig the well deeper, then i think i would consider it. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:02:18 AM EDT
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even southern WV winters can be difficult... perhaps you should be looking in Western NC. I grew up in North Central WVa, I know the areas and ok with the winters, Im not a fan of NC> |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I grew up in North Central WVa, I know the areas and ok with the winters, Im not a fan of NC> Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: even southern WV winters can be difficult... perhaps you should be looking in Western NC. I grew up in North Central WVa, I know the areas and ok with the winters, Im not a fan of NC> Awesome!! I love WV. we go on vacation there. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:49:59 PM EDT
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Depends.... Is there any water deeper down? How cheap is the property? If "Yes" and "pretty cheap", then I would consider it. Check with the local well drillers. Ask what their experience in the neighboring properties has been. Ask what it might cost to have a completely new well put in. Michigan has most well records available online with depths and soil types, your state might have something similar just to give you a start on . If you aren't confident you can get water, the property has to be cheap enough to want to deal with a tanker truck delivering water every so often. ETA, where I am, just a few miles from Lake Superior, the geology makes for widely varying conditions. Most places are easy to get water but I know of a couple people that have had wells put in where there wasn't enough flow. A new well bored a few hundred feet away worked fine in both cases. And a mile or two away people have 5-20 gpm artesian wells. It doesn't sound like you are interested, but if so, check with the well guy. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The property is suppose to be worth 160k but they are selling for 140k to giver allowance for a cistern. Apparently with daily heavy water use, you can run the well dry quickly and it takes 2-3 days to recover. Meaning, its not a seasonal thing, its a daily/weekly thing. Tell the realtor they should start investing in chunks of desert; they have no water either and should be worth a fortune considering how little desert land goes for now! |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:45:58 PM EDT
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Property is in WVa. The problem is there are roads built behind the 12acres of the property that looks like it could be a developement, dont know if they would do well stuff or try to do a water system. Just curious, is the land for a 'survival retreat, vacation place, or a regular place to live? Considering it might have a development close by... |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:05:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The property is suppose to be worth 160k but they are selling for 140k to giver allowance for a cistern. Apparently with daily heavy water use, you can run the well dry quickly and it takes 2-3 days to recover. Meaning, its not a seasonal thing, its a daily/weekly thing. Im gonna pass on this property. Between the water and the future developement in the "back yard", its not worth it in the long run, this is suppose to be a retirement home for me, not just a casual place to visit, last thing I want to deal with when I get old is water (not sayin that cant happen anywhere) but this being a known issue is a deal breaker. No matter what property I own, im gonna have major water storage regardless of the water situation. so a cistern and/or tower is already in my plans. Probably a good move on passing the property up. When I buy property again, it will not be close to anything that appears to be a development. If you knew there wasn't going to be development, then price the property as if there was no well. If you bought a cistern, you'd either have to truck in the water to fill it or it would take a freaking long time. Not sure what "heavy water use" is, exactly, but assume it's 200 gallons. If the well pumped 10 gpm (probably generous) or 600 gph, then you'd run dry in 20 minutes. Imagine filling a 5000 gallon cistern 200 gallons at a time and then waiting 2-3 days to put 200 more in. If you filled it with a truck and just used the well to top off the cistern, you'd probably be ok. To fix that well, you're either going to have to go deeper, or make a large cavity that holds much more water at the depth of the pump. |
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