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Posted: 10/6/2012 2:02:28 PM
I have been eyeballing this knife for a while.
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But I was curious as to if there is anything better out there.
I think the price is a bit high too.
What I want is fixed blade that has a kydex (or equivalent) sheath that is molle ready.
Partial Serration is cool, built in knife sharpener would be a bonus.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 2:37:44 PM
The biggest problem about asking for knife opinions is, their the same as parts for an AR. Everyone has their own opinion on what's the best, and anyone who likes something different, doesn't know anything.
My favorites are Beckers BK9s and BK1s. Kabars, Rat knives, Ontario knives. There are kydex sheaths on the market for a lot of these knives. Rats are a bit more expensive, but for budget minded, Kabar and Ontario are great options for blades. I don't like anything under 7 inches for survival, and some of these are big blades for chopping small trees for shelter making.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 2:52:31 PM
Originally Posted By KnifeCollector:
The biggest problem about asking for knife opinions is, their the same as parts for an AR. Everyone has their own opinion on what's the best, and anyone who likes something different, doesn't know anything.
My favorites are Beckers BK9s and BK1s. Kabars, Rat knives, Ontario knives. There are kydex sheaths on the market for a lot of these knives. Rats are a bit more expensive, but for budget minded, Kabar and Ontario are great options for blades. I don't like anything under 7 inches for survival, and some of these are big blades for chopping small trees for shelter making.


great advice! ill check those out. i always buy X item then 2 days later someone shows me y item which is way nicer for less than x item.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 4:04:11 PM
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Gerber use to be my favorite knife maker. However, they went through a period of lack luster quality and I switched to Cold Steel and have never looked back!

Here's a great knife for a reasonable price point:

Cold Steel SRK
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Posted: 10/6/2012 6:16:40 PM
Take a look at the ESEE line of knives. Great knife for just a few bucks more.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:13:34 PM
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:26:13 PM
Originally Posted By KnifeCollector:
The biggest problem about asking for knife opinions is, their the same as parts for an AR. Everyone has their own opinion on what's the best, and anyone who likes something different, doesn't know anything.
My favorites are Beckers BK9s and BK1s. Kabars, Rat knives, Ontario knives. There are kydex sheaths on the market for a lot of these knives. Rats are a bit more expensive, but for budget minded, Kabar and Ontario are great options for blades. I don't like anything under 7 inches for survival, and some of these are big blades for chopping small trees for shelter making.


this is good advise. everyone is going to have their opinion but the above options are all decent manufacturers with options that are at a price point that is reasonable. remember though, the best tool is the one you have when you need it, not the most expensive one that is at home attached to your BOB...goes for knives, BOB's, any kind of gear. its useless if you cannot access it when you need it.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:31:02 PM
Originally Posted By FNFalGuy:
Gerber use to be my favorite knife maker. However, they went through a period of lack luster quality and I switched to Cold Steel and have never looked back!

Here's a great knife for a reasonable price point:

Cold Steel SRK


+10 on the Cold Steel.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:35:36 PM
ESEE also sells clips that can make most kydex sheaths MOLLE compatable. TOPS knives are also a good brand to look at.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:41:13 PM
Specifications and features:
Gerber LMF II Infantry fixed blade knife
4.84" partially serrated drop point blade
420HC stainless steel blade
Glass filled nylon handle with TPV overmold
Lashing holes for use as a spear
Low-profile ballistic nylon sheath with built in sharpener and fire-retardant coating
10.59" overall length
Weighs 11.4 ounces

420HC SS? No Thanks. When they were made with Gerber's other high carbon steel (sorry I don't recall the name) it was a pretty good knife. I don't think there are very many good knives using 420HC.

ESEE is a much better knife as is the Becker line.

Good luck.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 8:45:09 PM
I really like the BK9.
I'd add a Mora, either the Robust or the 2000 and use the hell outa them, then see what they could do and add a 3rd. knife to fill the gaps.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 9:31:33 PM
Originally Posted By Solace22:
I have been eyeballing this knife for a while.
here
But I was curious as to if there is anything better out there.
I think the price is a bit high too.
What I want is fixed blade that has a kydex (or equivalent) sheath that is molle ready.
Partial Serration is cool, built in knife sharpener would be a bonus.



It's a great knife and well worth that price. 4-5 years ago when I purchased that exact same knife it was $140 Not a full tang knife and was/is designed to cut thru fusalge and electrical as well as having a glass breaker on the handle tip.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:37:03 PM
Originally Posted By Solace22:
I have been eyeballing this knife for a while.
here
But I was curious as to if there is anything better out there.
I think the price is a bit high too.
What I want is fixed blade that has a kydex (or equivalent) sheath that is molle ready.
Partial Serration is cool, built in knife sharpener would be a bonus.


Try LAPolicegear.com if you have your heart set on that one.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 10:59:02 PM
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:11:09 PM
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Originally Posted By KnifeCollector:
The biggest problem about asking for knife opinions is, their the same as parts for an AR. Everyone has their own opinion on what's the best, and anyone who likes something different, doesn't know anything.
My favorites are Beckers BK9s and BK1s. Kabars, Rat knives, Ontario knives. There are kydex sheaths on the market for a lot of these knives. Rats are a bit more expensive, but for budget minded, Kabar and Ontario are great options for blades. I don't like anything under 7 inches for survival, and some of these are big blades for chopping small trees for shelter making.


this is good advise. everyone is going to have their opinion but the above options are all decent manufacturers with options that are at a price point that is reasonable. remember though, the best tool is the one you have when you need it, not the most expensive one that is at home attached to your BOB...goes for knives, BOB's, any kind of gear. its useless if you cannot access it when you need it.


Another +1. The only thing I'll disagree on is the best length blade for said knife. 4"-5" is ideal for my purposes.
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Posted: 10/6/2012 11:56:16 PM
I have the exact same knife but in all black. It was roughly a dollar or so less prime from amazon. I absolutely love mine. My knife collection is still quite humble so I can not comment on the others that are listed.

Also, this site popped up in a thread here a while back so I figured I would share it as it really helped me.

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Posted: 10/7/2012 3:34:19 AM
The LMFII is a decent knife. It is on the heavy side, so depending on what you are doing, that could be a negative. A filet knife it ain't, but it can do a lot of tasks reasonably well (cut, baton, hammer, break glass, etc). A few have been damaged at the handle, due to abuse, so that appears to be the weak point. Since it's not full tang, it isn't as structurally strong as some others, but that is the result of the designers wanting to isolate the end cap from the rest of the blade.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:13:52 AM
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ESEE is pretty good, love their Junglas. Busse would be my top choice, Swamp Rat or Scrapyard are great Busse brands at a much cheaper price.
I still love Cold Steel but mostly for folders, their fixed blades are getting worse each year and there's actually too many fails to feel comfortable with them.
Falknivens are excellent knives too, but again, expensive.
For a budget beast of a knife look at Condor, Their Kumunga knife is on the sharp prybar category with well heat threated 1075 steel, in my opinion a better option than 1095 for a knife that may get to be abused beyond the typical uses of a knife. (hammering, digging, prying). It would need some work done to the handle to make it better and a better bevel angle but overal great budget knife.
The Condor Hudson Bay knife is also a very interesting budget choice.
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:39:05 PM
Another thing to consider is what kind of knife do you want to maintain? Different steels, grind styles, edge bevels, rockwell hardness, etc., all factor in to how much work/special tools are needed to keep the knife in working order. Carbon steel knives are easy to keep sharp, but rust and the egde doesn't take a beating as well as some other steels. Higher end steels aren't as suseptible to corrosion, and hold an edge much better, but may require diamond stones to keep sharp. Then there is edge bevel. Cold Steel used to use an assymetrical edge with odd ass angles that were less than ideal. Lots of folk would end up reshaping the edge into a symmetrical angle but sacrificed some efficiency in the process, whether they realized it or not. Then there is the convex edge, which is by most accounts far superior to the angular edge, and fairly easy to maintain with simple tools. Unless you take a chunk out of the edge, then it is nearly impossible to fix without a belt grinder.

In the end, knives are a very personal choice, and there are a hundred variables that can factor into that choice. I would suggest reading as much as you can regarding how and why knives are made the way they are and use that knowledge to influence your decision, and not the claims of a multi million dollar marketing office or what someone else says is a good knife.

Thats not to say that the opinions of members here are invalid though. Lots of good suggestions in the other posts for some truly great blades for "survival" purposes. I think, however, that you should first understand what makes it a good knife for that purpose. Only then can you truly decide what knife is right for you. Unless of course, you have lots of money to burn....
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Posted: 10/7/2012 9:47:49 PM
There's one for $50.00 in the EE.
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I'm not a huge fan of Gerber any more but, honestly, for the specific features you listed and the price of this knife, it's not a bad deal.

My opinion for you is that you might want to re-think the serrations. They are OK for an EDC pocket knife, but when you start using the knife out in the woods they are actually an annoying hinderence for a lot of tasks. If you re-think it and go with something else, I'd recommend the SRK. Personally I have a Falkniven F1 with the 3G steel, but it was quite a bit more expensive and not a molly sheath. The regular F1 with the VG-10 steel can be had for around a c note and is a hell of a knife. IMHO the giant knives like BK9's don't get carried by me much due to weight. I do a lot of backpack hiking and stuff like that never makes the trip more than once. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:06:30 AM
Remy on here makes some real nice pieces. I bought two off him awhile back and have been beating the heck out of mine and the wife does the same to hers. Nice pieces nice prices. Prefer over my esee
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Posted: 10/8/2012 4:51:46 AM
ESEE 4" for me. Once you own one you will understand- there is a reason people recommend them- other members here tried a bunch of others and did the trial for you- you just have to read about it here. It's why ARFcom SF is one of the best on the net. Most of the guys that have been here a while, know just from other members experiences, you get what you pay for, and save money in the long run. You won't end up buying a bunch of things to eventually buy what you should have to begin with. The Gerber LMF is a nice knife, pretty solid and most here give it a thumbs up. Thats not enough for me personally to put money on one, but they are nice if that's your price range and you won't budge. I don't subscribe to that thought though.

Buy once, Cry once is my philosophy- like a lot of guys here. I never understood the, I will bet my life on this, but I don't want to spend more than $x.xx? When your life is gonna depend on it, money should not be a determining factor- but the most expensive ≠ best. Most things that are serious use items, durable, dependable, and quality though- surprise- COST SERIOUS MONEY. You gotta pay to play. Some guys like cheaper and more quantity. I don't have a ton of space for a lot of extra stuff so I buy quality and a spare- Two is one and one is none idea.

Partial serration is a PITA to keep sharp compared to plain edge. I don't buy knives with them anymore. Plain edge is quick and easy to maintain an edge. Buy a sharpening STONE and learn how to use it. Gadgets are neat and all, but a stone is light and reliable. Surprise- a good stone is gonna cost you too. It takes real practice to sharpen well.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:14:13 AM
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ESEE 4" for me. Once you own one you will understand- there is a reason people recommend them- other members here tried a bunch of others and did the trial for you- you just have to read about it here. It's why ARFcom SF is one of the best on the net. Most of the guys that have been here a while, know just from other members experiences, you get what you pay for, and save money in the long run. You won't end up buying a bunch of things to eventually buy what you should have to begin with. The Gerber LMF is a nice knife, pretty solid and most here give it a thumbs up. Thats not enough for me personally to put money on one, but they are nice if that's your price range and you won't budge. I don't subscribe to that thought though.

Buy once, Cry once is my philosophy- like a lot of guys here. I never understood the, I will bet my life on this, but I don't want to spend more than $x.xx? When your life is gonna depend on it, money should not be a determining factor- but the most expensive ≠ best. Most things that are serious use items, durable, dependable, and quality though- surprise- COST SERIOUS MONEY. You gotta pay to play. Some guys like cheaper and more quantity. I don't have a ton of space for a lot of extra stuff so I buy quality and a spare- Two is one and one is none idea.

Partial serration is a PITA to keep sharp compared to plain edge. I don't buy knives with them anymore. Plain edge is quick and easy to maintain an edge. Buy a sharpening STONE and learn how to use it. Gadgets are neat and all, but a stone is light and reliable. Surprise- a good stone is gonna cost you too. It takes real practice to sharpen well.


And that's another downside to the Gerber LMF II - and it's little brother, the Prodigy. I have both knives, at least I did until the LMF got stolen last year. I won't buy a knife with serrations anymore, I used to be a fan. Like Thumbtack said: Lesson learned.

For the $60 or so you'll spend on a Gerber LMF II, you could spend that on a Becker Campanion and have a much higher quality and much more useful knife, IMO.

Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Posted: 10/8/2012 8:28:32 AM
Get it they have a good repuation. If it doesn't work for you, get something else with a good reputation. No one can tell you what the right knife is for you, they're like women, you got go through a few to figure out which is the one for you.

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Posted: 10/8/2012 10:09:38 AM
Grew up using my dad's KaBar he got from our "Uncle" duirng the Korean War. It is still sharp and going strong. If you want a modern one-I have seen enw ones on-line from $53.88 to about $65.00 depending on blade options and sheaf options. Lot of bang for the buck. I also have the Cold Steel mentioned-SHARP right out of the box, love the handle. Can't go wrong with either, as far as I am comcerned.
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