After a year or two of my GF thinking I was nuts, I got her to read ONE SECOND AFTER. THAT turned her around very quickly and it was a good thing. Shortly after she finished the book, we took a day trip and she asked me what we would do should an EMP hit while we were gone. I realized that I had my handgun but no spare magazine so I started carrying an extra.

Last night we were walking back to the car after a concert. She asked me if I would let her go back to her car to get her tennis shoes and I said of course. We were 2 blocks from her car and about two miles from my house.

Now here is the issue. She lives 20 miles away. She has several dogs and her parents ( 85+ years old and in great health ) are not far from her house. She always insists that she would have to go back to get her dogs and her parents. She constantly asks how we would go get them. I tell her I cannot comment as I don't know specific circumstances.

I have dogs and I love them, but would I walk 20 miles to get then, carry food back to location "A": NO! Not in an EMP situation.

As to her parents, they are great people and have been very good to me, but not knowing where they would be, not having means of communication with them, would I risk my safety and the safety of those gathered with me to hike a day and a half and return taking at least 3 days for them to be able to walk back seems like an exercise in stupidity.

I think it is pointless to get my GF to see the futility in her position but not sure if I should give up or keep trying her to see reason.

Thoughts?

Libraries of books have been written on that very subject, a emotional choice vs a rational choice. There is no right answer.

most of us here werry about falling off the the edge of the world more than an EMP event. think about that for a min and see if you/she still feels the same way.

Lets face it, the reality of an EMP event is extremely low on the reasons why we prep list. I would encourage her to develop a plan to rescue the dogs and parents. This lets her understand the challenges you are talking about, and also makes her think critically about how to resolve such problems. I would shy away from "fuck the dogs, and good luck with the parents", as this can only hurt the relationship. Why start a rift between you two on a subject that has a 99 percent chance of never happening?

Having said that, I would certainly plan for the addition of the dogs and pets in your prepping activities, as obviously they will be at your place come SHTF.

85+ years old is a really long time. Even in great health, they could stroke out on the walk back.

Not to be mean or anything, but they aren't going to be leading the charge to rebuild or repopulate the earth.

And everybody dies sooner or later.

You might be better off convincing your gf that they need their own preps if shtf instead of you going to get them.

a couple of tandem bicycles would greatly shorten the transportation time... add a small bike cart and some belonings could be transported

The biggest down side to havign your spouse on board is you burn up more ammo at the range with 2 of you shooting than just one.

Come up with a plan to get the dogs and her parents. It will make her feel better. Maybe keep a bob st her parents place and her pace.

Its not like you will likely be in that situation anyway, just make up a reasonable plan and make her happy.

Valid points all, OP....and I tend to agree with your analysis. But the above opinion is very reasonable, too.

Nope - solenoid is normally closed, needs 12V to open.

Just carry a spare and a couple of 6v lantern batterries in a .30 can. And always park on a hill. In summer. :)

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You can get a decent M151 jeep for less than $15k, you know.

Pretty much sums it up. For me, it's saving my family and my dogs that means the most, not just surviving.