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Posted: 4/13/2012 9:48:31 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT CTD KI If the answer is yes, please don't buy them out before I get some. 
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Posted: 4/13/2012 9:56:12 AM
[Last Edit: 4/13/2012 9:56:26 AM by robb01]
I just spoke with my wife who is a nurse about these, she said these should only be taken in an extreme nuclear disaster situation. I saw some on amazon for $8, and bought a pack. I like to cover all my bases, but these would only be used in an extreme situation, but like most everything else, good to have. .
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JC10311
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Posted: 4/13/2012 9:56:50 AM
I may have answered my own question. The CDC put out the following:
KI treatment from CDC Since both my wife and I are 60, it doesn't seem to make sense for us. |
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JakeThePimp
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Posted: 4/13/2012 9:58:44 AM
If there is a nuke event iirc you take them once a day. It's to block the thyroid from taking in radioactive iodine. Wiki
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Posted: 4/13/2012 10:47:12 AM
You're only supposed to take enough of that stuff to "unass yourself" from the radioactivity.
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Posted: 4/13/2012 10:56:18 AM
basically, as i understand it in laymans terms, the thyroid 'likes" iodine. When there is a radioactive event, the thyroid sucks up iodine, some of which can be radioactive. The presence of the radioactive iodine in the tyhroid cause thyroid cancers.
The KI tablets are taken immediately after the fadioacitve event, and are used to 'flood' the tyroid. If the throid is effectively "full" of plain old iodine, there is little opportunity for the radioactive variants to settle down and take up residence in your thyroid. I know this is grossly oversimplified, but that is how I understand the theory. Its a reactive, post event, 'take a shit pile of KI" for a short term kind of reaction/therapy. |
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mcnielsen
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Posted: 4/13/2012 11:27:07 AM
I bought some quite a while back from www.nukepills.com
When the Fukoshima scare was happening, these disappeared from the shelves. Have some on hand for the "Cloud" but know that it is not a cure-all for radiation, mainly a cancer preventative vs. exposure to radiation. |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 12:42:12 PM
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JC10311
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Posted: 4/13/2012 2:04:49 PM
Originally Posted By WazSolo:
Why not buy it from the manufacturer? http://www.anbex.com/ http://www.anbex.com/images/iosatred.jpg Thanks for the link. Even though they probably wouldn't be necessary for us old fogeys, We'll have some peace of mind and maybe something to trade. There's a sale going on now. Get one free package when you but 10. |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 3:06:35 PM
DO NOT TAKE THESE UNLESS THEY ARE NEEDED. (yes, I'm shouting)
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Posted: 4/13/2012 3:24:49 PM
Originally Posted By aeropilot4fun: DO NOT TAKE THESE UNLESS THEY ARE NEEDED. (yes, I'm shouting) +1 |
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JC10311
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Posted: 4/13/2012 4:11:27 PM
Originally Posted By aeropilot4fun:
DO NOT TAKE THESE UNLESS THEY ARE NEEDED. (yes, I'm shouting) I got that part loud and clear from the CDC doc as well. I'm not even sure why I think I need these other than: "It's better to have and not need than to need and not have." |
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Q3131A
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Posted: 4/13/2012 5:49:31 PM
Thanks for the useful links
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Posted: 4/13/2012 6:43:34 PM
Govt is buying a million doses... Possible shortage or event ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SLvyTXMPug0 |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 6:43:44 PM
I make sure that I have enough for my neighbor's kids in case something happens. I love the little shits.
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Posted: 4/13/2012 7:42:36 PM
Originally Posted By WazSolo:
Why not buy it from the manufacturer? http://www.anbex.com/ http://www.anbex.com/images/iosatred.jpg Cheaper on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/iOSAT-Potassium-Iodide-Tablets-130/dp/B00006NT3A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334360822&sr=8-1 |
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CarbineDad
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Posted: 4/13/2012 7:51:42 PM
My thoughts, back in the archives
Readers Digest –– good to stock so you aren't in line for a handout, NEVER take unless your AO is told to by reliable authorities. There can be side effects KI was distributed, but NEVER directed to be taken (IIRC) by the general public after Fukushima. But that is mostly due to the favorable wind direction. |
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red_on_black
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Posted: 4/13/2012 8:02:29 PM
Originally Posted By fundummy:
Govt is buying a million doses... Possible shortage or event ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SLvyTXMPug0 Replacing gov't stocks? Expired tabs? Maybe we sent some over to the Japanese? Who knows. 1M doses is a drop in the bucket. It's a cheap inorganic salt. |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 8:50:40 PM
Originally Posted By JC10311:
Originally Posted By aeropilot4fun:
DO NOT TAKE THESE UNLESS THEY ARE NEEDED. (yes, I'm shouting) I got that part loud and clear from the CDC doc as well. I'm not even sure why I think I need these other than: "It's better to have and not need than to need and not have." I live just downwind from three mile island and not far from limerick. You can bet your ass I have some in stock. Did you notice when fukushima happened how slow the authorities were to admit something really serious was wrong? They won't tell you until it's far, far too late. |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 8:54:47 PM
It's noted above, but bears reinforcing, the ONLY cancer this will help prevent is thyroid cancer. The reason it's not really needed for people over a certain age is that it takes so long for thyroid cancer to develop. They won't live long enough to develop it. Children and youth, on the other hand, are the primary ones that would need it.
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Posted: 4/13/2012 8:55:18 PM
[Last Edit: 4/13/2012 9:02:40 PM by Recorderguy]
Plan B if caught without KI tablets:
http://www.ki4u.com/plan_b.htm According to research by Health Physicist Ken Miller, Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination Read 2% tincture of iodine as: Betadine, available cheaply at any pharmacy or wal-mart (which is actually 10%, requiring 1.6 ml or basically a 2" square painted on the body once a day, do NOT ingest it, it's poison) |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 8:56:13 PM
I'm poised to buy some too and had some nagging questions running around in my small mind
Any thoughts on Potassium Iodide vs. Potassium Iodate? I was going to order KIO3 from here: http://www.kio3.com/index.htm but figured I better ask the hive first.... I know that I-131 has a short half-life (about 8 days), but would dried up cooling ponds and/or improperly contained reactors possibly produce/release it over lengthier periods? If the grid were down for a protracted period of time and multiple sites were releasing I-131 (insert whatever crazy scenario here), then how long would it actually be safe to take either Potassium Iodide or Potassium Iodate? I'd hate to give my kids KI or KIO3 for a couple of weeks while I-131 was being actively released for months instead. I'd also hate to give it to them for months if it had some bad side effect from long term ingestion.... |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 11:06:46 PM
Originally Posted By Recorderguy:
Plan B if caught without KI tablets: http://www.ki4u.com/plan_b.htm According to research by Health Physicist Ken Miller, Hershey Medical Center, using 24 healthy adult male subjects, an adult could get a blocking dose of stable iodine by painting 8 ml of a 2 percent tincture of Iodine on the abdomen or forearm approximately 2 hours prior to I-131 contamination Read 2% tincture of iodine as: Betadine, available cheaply at any pharmacy or wal-mart (which is actually 10%, requiring 1.6 ml or basically a 2" square painted on the body once a day, do NOT ingest it, it's poison) Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way. There's a lot more available iodine in a 2% tincture of iodine than in 10% PI solution. The iodine in PI is poorly absorbed through intact skin, though dangerous amounts of iodine can be absorbed from PI through extensive burns or wounds. |
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Posted: 4/13/2012 11:28:50 PM
Originally Posted By WazSolo: Why not buy it from the manufacturer? http://www.anbex.com/ http://www.anbex.com/images/iosatred.jpg CVS has it too: http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_product_detail.jsp?skuId=190658&productId=190658 |
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Posted: 4/14/2012 1:55:26 AM
My local Wally world sells them OTC for $7.99 for 30 tabs. I spoke with a Pharmacist friend of mine and he said do not take these unless you absolutely need too!
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Posted: 4/14/2012 11:36:44 AM
Originally Posted By Variable556:
I'm poised to buy some too and had some nagging questions running around in my small mind Any thoughts on Potassium Iodide vs. Potassium Iodate? I was going to order KIO3 from here: http://www.kio3.com/index.htm but figured I better ask the hive first.... I know that I-131 has a short half-life (about 8 days), but would dried up cooling ponds and/or improperly contained reactors possibly produce/release it over lengthier periods? If the grid were down for a protracted period of time and multiple sites were releasing I-131 (insert whatever crazy scenario here), then how long would it actually be safe to take either Potassium Iodide or Potassium Iodate? I'd hate to give my kids KI or KIO3 for a couple of weeks while I-131 was being actively released for months instead. I'd also hate to give it to them for months if it had some bad side effect from long term ingestion.... I-131 is a uranium fission product. Once the reactor is shutdown production of radioiodine estentially stops (the actual decay chain that produces the I-131 escapes me at the moment). After 5 half lives, the I-131 is gone as a practicle matter, in the core, in the coolant, diposited over the landscape, etc. If there isn't an ongoing fission reaction somewhere, the quantity of I-131 is decreasing. |
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