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Posted: 12/21/2011 10:49:51 PM
Is there a towable trailer/camper out there that is 4 season capable and durable enough to go off road? What is it? Make? Model?
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Posted: 12/21/2011 10:52:39 PM
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Out of the box, No.

You could look at the Fleetwood Evolution E models. They are off road capable but still a tent trailer. I know of no hardside camper that is truely off road capable.

My idea of "off roading" might not be the same as yours, so you need to define your parameters on what you want exactly. Most campers can be hauled down a reg. dirt road,but when you get into river crossings and rocks, than your looking for something capable. Id rather have something over engineered with no chance of breaking. What I want doesnt exist.

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:14:56 PM
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Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Out of the box, No.






I would disagree.

Yes, there are, but you won't like the prices.


http://www.kimberleykampers.com/

http://www.adventuretrailers.com/

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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:32:38 PM
Four season trailer that means I'm able to stand in the trailer. I want to be able to stand , change clothes. Etc. a lot of theses trailers are tents on wheels.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:45:50 PM
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A truck camper would work.

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Edit: opps sorry, you said towable.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 11:55:03 PM
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Setting aside your "towable" requirement, the right slide-in camper* on a 3/4 ton or 1 ton 4WD pickup would probably qualify.


*Bigfoot is one example of a solid, well-insulated slide-in camper. Made in Canada, they're built for the cold. Although I'm not sure if it's still available, they have offered an "ice-fishing" package that allows you to unload the camper on a frozen lake, open a floor hatch, cut a hole in the ice below, and fish in heated, beer-and-microwaved-nachos comfort. How cool is that?
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Posted: 12/22/2011 12:00:41 AM
Bigfoot trailers are 4-season from the start.


http://www.bigfootrv.com/bigfootrv_travel_trailers_2500.html
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Posted: 12/22/2011 12:10:18 AM
Not able to stand up in it but it does have the option of heat and air conditioning, small and light enough to pull anywhere and I know for a fact they are pretty tough. Not as tough as an adventure trailer but will take a lot more abuse than you think. There is also a 10x10 tent that can be attached to the side. Replace it with heavy duty material instead of tent material and it should hold up to the elements. If you have more than 2 people it is not going to work for you though.

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Posted: 12/22/2011 3:08:05 AM
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It all depends on what your comfort level is.

These guys did Arctic Circle with canvas roof-top tent and sleeping bags/clothing, had some -30F nights.

Other expedition guys use insulated hard sided campers with diesel heaters when it gets 40F.

It also depends on what you define as 4 season, and how long you will stay in one place. In colder weather, you can get by with less infrastructure if you are stopping only at night, as you can use the daytime to thaw out water/etc as you travel. If you stay in one place for extended periods, you will want a more cold-ready environment for water/toiletry/electronics.

ETA: saw the update about standing room. You will sacrifice majority of off road maneuverability and capability for that. We then have to define what level of off-road you will be on the majority of the time.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 6:16:03 AM
Mrs.SouthHoof & I searched far and wide to find a Bigfoot 10.6e & finally found one in Colorado Springs Co. It is indeed a four season weather ready rig. It has an on board generator & I've added a couple additional compact batteries. Bigfoot RV's are pricey but well worth the cost for the quality you get. Two other brands to look at are Okanagan and Northern Lite, both are the best built & most costly that are available.





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Posted: 12/22/2011 7:56:42 AM
I have one listed in the EE.


Complete hard shell, and has expandable beds.


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Posted: 12/22/2011 8:57:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:
Out of the box, No.






I would disagree.

Yes, there are, but you won't like the prices.


http://www.kimberleykampers.com/

http://www.adventuretrailers.com/



I disagree, those are still TENT campers and you still have to be OUTSIDE too cook. Not 4 season IMO.

Originally Posted By vatopa:
I have one listed in the EE.


Complete hard shell, and has expandable beds.




Heh..nice try. I would destroy that camper where I go 4x4ing. While that is a 4 season camper, it lacks the off road capability
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Posted: 12/22/2011 9:01:49 AM
Some times you just have to build your own- mine
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Posted: 12/22/2011 9:20:26 AM
Originally Posted By mj1angier:
Some times you just have to build your own- mine


Do you have any pics of the inside.....I have been wanting to do some thing like this for a while.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:00:23 AM
Originally Posted By die-tryin:I ended up building my own trailer, it was a success but a failure at the same time. lol.



What happened to yours? I remember reading that build thread a couple months ago.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:38:43 AM
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He asked about campers or trailers.

Camping involves cooking outside.

'Trailering' doesn't.



4 Season to me means it wont freeze up and everything is usable at sub freezing temps.

Also, a slide in camper will push your 3/4 to almost 10,000 pounds, hardly offroad capable, more like dirt road ready.

For true off road use, you are going to be sleeping under canvas. Weight and structural rigidity of the box kill you and it takes lots of money to make it work.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:38:47 AM
Originally Posted By dskeet:
Originally Posted By die-tryin:I ended up building my own trailer, it was a success but a failure at the same time. lol.



What happened to yours? I remember reading that build thread a couple months ago.


Long story short., Mold got into the wood and ruined it. The build was a success along functionality but was un-usable due to mold.

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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:42:30 AM
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These are nice, pretty much my holy grail for 'off road' RV.
But they start at 230K and can go as high as $400,000.



http://www.earthroamer.com/


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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:12:41 AM
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
These are nice, pretty much my holy grail for 'off road' RV.
But they start at 230K and can go as high as $400,000.



http://www.earthroamer.com/


http://www.earthroamer.com/jpg/xvlts.jpg


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Posted: 12/22/2011 11:38:07 AM
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
These are nice, pretty much my holy grail for 'off road' RV.
But they start at 230K and can go as high as $400,000.



http://www.earthroamer.com/


http://www.earthroamer.com/jpg/xvlts.jpg


You're not going to do much off roading in the forested eastern part of the country with anything that big or tall. That leaves out most of the slide in campers too.


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Posted: 12/22/2011 1:42:30 PM

Originally Posted By Waldo:
Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
These are nice, pretty much my holy grail for 'off road' RV.
But they start at 230K and can go as high as $400,000.



http://www.earthroamer.com/


http://www.earthroamer.com/jpg/xvlts.jpg


You're not going to do much off roading in the forested eastern part of the country with anything that big or tall. That leaves out most of the slide in campers too.




Yup.

There is a reason all the 'overland' and 'expedition' vehicle and trailer companies are based in the west.

In the south, a jeep and a tent will get you most places.

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Posted: 12/22/2011 3:04:29 PM
Few more pics




This is a before pic
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Posted: 12/22/2011 9:47:06 PM
I'm just going to get and old Airstream 16foot Bambi..... Jack up the suspension myself.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 9:51:07 PM
Originally Posted By DOG556:
I'm just going to get and old Airstream 16foot Bambi..... Jack up the suspension myself.


Lil more involved than that., Most trailers are C channel frames to cut down on weight, this will also FLEX like crazy off roading, maybe to a point of twisting the frame and warping the body, etc.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:17:01 PM
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4 season 13' Lil Bigfoot.
Sleeps 4, has a sink, fridge, stove and heater.
Around 1300lbs loaded.



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Posted: 12/22/2011 10:19:10 PM
Originally Posted By migradog:
4 season 13' Lil Bigfoot.
Sleeps 4, has a sink, fridge, stove and heater.
Around 1300lbs loaded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/borderguy/casita017.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/borderguy/casita020.jpg


Still not going very far off roading with that. although, I really like the Scamps. Id probably buy one if I could find one. The only thing about lifting one would be how ungawdly tall it would become.
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