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Posted: 7/16/2012 11:08:15 AM
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Made me a little crate for safety in transport and in the garage. I can secure the crate in the bed of my truck. 2x4's on the sides and bottom, 1x4's for supports elsewhere. I used 2.5", and 1.25" screws into the 2x4's after nailing. It is friggn sturdy. http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/Cans.png Edit with info: I made the two surrounding "rings" first. The side 2x4's are cut to 13.75", the long 1x4's are 29.75". The bottom support 2x4's are also 29.75" The side vertical 1x4 supports holding the lower 2x4's and the "rings" are 16" long. The front and back vertical 1x4 supports for the "rings" are 14.5" long. Hopefully you can understand my terminology. While the ring dimensions will remain the same for the 4 cans (I purchased these from Deutsche Optik) You can space the height as you would like to be higher or lower. I thought about making them higher so I could stack them, but though it would not be safe to stack. I think I purchased two 8ft 2x4's, and two 8ft 1x4's. The nails used were 2", then I screwed each section as I assembled it. 2.5" into the 2x4's long ways, and 1.25" screws for the 1x4 to 1x4 areas. Hopefully I explained it good enough. I'm no engineer. Top View without cans: http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/DSC_2374.jpg View of bottom supports: http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/DSC_2375.jpg Are those the Deutscheoptik cans? Are they GTG for fuel storage?Also, are they a good company to buy from? Yes and Yes. I have bought 4 large cans and 2 small cans from them and have never had a problem. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 3:12:53 PM
Originally Posted By vm1970:
Originally Posted By 1811guy:
Originally Posted By n3awalk3r:
Made me a little crate for safety in transport and in the garage. I can secure the crate in the bed of my truck. 2x4's on the sides and bottom, 1x4's for supports elsewhere. I used 2.5", and 1.25" screws into the 2x4's after nailing. It is friggn sturdy. http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/Cans.png Edit with info: I made the two surrounding "rings" first. The side 2x4's are cut to 13.75", the long 1x4's are 29.75". The bottom support 2x4's are also 29.75" The side vertical 1x4 supports holding the lower 2x4's and the "rings" are 16" long. The front and back vertical 1x4 supports for the "rings" are 14.5" long. Hopefully you can understand my terminology. While the ring dimensions will remain the same for the 4 cans (I purchased these from Deutsche Optik) You can space the height as you would like to be higher or lower. I thought about making them higher so I could stack them, but though it would not be safe to stack. I think I purchased two 8ft 2x4's, and two 8ft 1x4's. The nails used were 2", then I screwed each section as I assembled it. 2.5" into the 2x4's long ways, and 1.25" screws for the 1x4 to 1x4 areas. Hopefully I explained it good enough. I'm no engineer. Top View without cans: http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/DSC_2374.jpg View of bottom supports: http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr170/neawalker/DSC_2375.jpg Are those the Deutscheoptik cans? Are they GTG for fuel storage?Also, are they a good company to buy from? Yes and Yes. I have bought 4 large cans and 2 small cans from them and have never had a problem. Thanks! Just ordered 4 and a spout. |
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Posted: 7/16/2012 4:30:18 PM
Just got a can and spout off of ebay and the interior or the can is not painted. What is the cheapest fix short of sending it back?
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Posted: 7/19/2012 8:45:37 AM
I just ordered some 20L, 10L, and a 5L Jerry can from Atlantic British. I won't begin using them for a couple of years. So I will need to store and preserve them until that time. Would it be a good idea to use a vapor phase corrosion inhibitor like the one "3 in 1 Oil" sells ( http://www.3inone.com.au/3inone/no_rust_shield.php ) to keep the inside from rusting?
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Posted: 7/29/2012 5:41:33 PM
Just updated the Viton gasket portion with new info.
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Posted: 7/29/2012 7:44:47 PM
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Just updated the Viton gasket portion with new info. Woot!  I finally get to contribute something worthwhile. I should have known that professing my stupidity was the key.LOL 
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Posted: 7/30/2012 9:03:52 AM
[Last Edit: 7/30/2012 9:06:11 AM by wshbrngr]
Originally Posted By Bizarro:
Just got a can and spout off of ebay and the interior or the can is not painted. What is the cheapest fix short of sending it back? I always thought the NATO cans are lined inside. I don't know what you paid, or how yours was advertised, but I suspect you got a Chinese knock-off can. You can buy fuel tank liner at an auto parts store or online, but when I I looked, it was not a very cheap option. Between cans and tank liner, I could just buy real NATO cans for the cost. |
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Posted: 7/30/2012 4:17:04 PM
Is $38.50 too much for new NATO Jerry cans?
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Posted: 7/30/2012 5:06:36 PM
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan: Is $38.50 too much for new NATO Jerry cans? No, not for a quality can. I paid $30 for mine from Deutsche Optik 3 years ago, and now they are up to $50.
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Posted: 7/30/2012 5:58:15 PM
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Is $38.50 too much for new NATO Jerry cans? No, not for a quality can. I paid $30 for mine from Deutsche Optik 3 years ago, and now they are up to $50. Do these seem to be the real deal? They're marked "not for fuel use" supposedly because of EPA regs. 
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Posted: 7/30/2012 6:56:33 PM
DO has cans marked like that. They look fine, but I can't see how thick the steel is or how well it is coated inside.
Who is selling them?
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Posted: 7/31/2012 6:27:54 AM
Lexington Container Co. has them listed as a coming soon item.
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Posted: 7/31/2012 9:05:54 AM
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Is $38.50 too much for new NATO Jerry cans? No, not for a quality can. I paid $30 for mine from Deutsche Optik 3 years ago, and now they are up to $50. Do these seem to be the real deal? They're marked "not for fuel use" supposedly because of EPA regs. http://i.imgur.com/Rx8Vx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eQ8f9.jpg I bet those are chinese knockoffs. |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 3:30:25 PM
How can you tell the real deal? I may be going there to pick up some more water storage, if I they have the cans in stock and I can eyeball them, what should I look for?
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Posted: 7/31/2012 4:06:36 PM
Without a real nato can to compare it may be hard to. I would look for bad welds, cheap, thin steel and any other typical chinese-type shortcuts. Best I can tell you.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:20:08 AM
Originally Posted By Merlin:
Without a real nato can to compare it may be hard to. I would look for bad welds, cheap, thin steel and any other typical chinese-type shortcuts. Best I can tell you. After further research, the cans sold on Atlantic British seem to be the same can as the ones I posted above. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 11:44:09 AM
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Originally Posted By Merlin:
Without a real nato can to compare it may be hard to. I would look for bad welds, cheap, thin steel and any other typical chinese-type shortcuts. Best I can tell you. After further research, the cans sold on Atlantic British seem to be the same can as the ones I posted above. Shouldn't the vendor be able to tell you the country of origin? |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 3:00:18 PM
Originally Posted By rsqhobbs:
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Originally Posted By Merlin:
Without a real nato can to compare it may be hard to. I would look for bad welds, cheap, thin steel and any other typical chinese-type shortcuts. Best I can tell you. After further research, the cans sold on Atlantic British seem to be the same can as the ones I posted above. Shouldn't the vendor be able to tell you the country of origin? I'm awaiting a reply to my email. |
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Posted: 8/6/2012 11:53:26 PM
Alot of the cheaper cans have no liner. The liner should be a redish, orangish, brownish color for fuel cans.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 6:07:56 PM
I started a rehab project on a bunch of my older more beat up cans, some have been in use on the farm for 20-25 years, and I got them used 'back then'.
I did my first can over the winter, to test the process and materials (spray bedliner and paint). At hte time I only used bedliner on the bottom of the can, but after some use I reazlized I should have covered the can completely with the bedliner product. 
Sandblasting the cans, I did the test can at home with my 'small' sandblaster. It took some time so I got some help from a neighboring farmer who had a trailer mounted compressor and industrial sandblaster to do the bulk of the cans. 
I use this Dupli-Color brand product for years on my gunstock fabrications and other projects, duplicolor dot com product # TR250 Black Truck bed Coating. It dries nice and hard and leaves a nice texture that takes paint well. The can on the right I purchased new and covered and repainted the can completely after scuffing the factory paint with my sandblaster. 
Painting the cans... 
One can of bedliner will do a 5 gal can and then some. I put on 6 light coats per can, a few more on the bottom to finish off the spray can. There is a sweet spot for how far away the nozzle is while spraying that gives a nice 'sand' texture. 
On the left is the new can I got at the farm store, that's were I purchased my older fuel cans some years ago, (there's a few more of nmy older cans in the background waiting to get rehabbed). Except for the nozzle the cans are identical. The new can has a sticker made in Melrose Park Illnois at Midwst Can Company. Once I find a steel cap I will be happy with the new can. On the left is a plastic can that's been on the farm for about 20 years, made by Totem Plastics out of Ontario Canada, labeled "TeePee Can", I found nothing on google about them. There was a pdf online that had some test results on thew can's permeability or some shit. The nozzle for the teepee can is the same diameter and almost the same same thread as the new metal cans, I would love to find some more of those. (I decided to sandblast the teepee can alittle and see how it takes the bedliner.) C361 Stan |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 10:31:59 PM
[Last Edit: 8/7/2012 10:34:07 PM by EXPY37]
Wow!
That one pix looks like something taken by Curious on Mars of a bunch of Martains with 4 wooden legs and Blitz cans for heads mobbing the rover.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:58:21 PM
Have these been mentioned yet?
The fix to the carb compliant can: http://www.ezpourspout.com/index.html |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:38:23 PM
pay the fifty cents extra and get the Atlantic British and don't be worried about the quality issue They are great.
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Posted: 8/12/2012 6:51:27 PM
BulletcatchR, those cans are looking very good. That should be an extremely durable finish!
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Posted: 8/18/2012 11:22:53 PM
Does any one know if a Jegs lid will thread onto a Blitz fuel can?
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