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Originally Posted By purple85gt: How would you make one with a paddle? I am wanting something I can put on fast while taking the dog out or other "make a quick trip" type activities. View Quote Here where you can get the paddle attachment. |
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Originally Posted By TobyLazur: Where are you getting the thumb break pieces from? View Quote http://www.ifithermoplastics.com/products/blade-tech-accessories |
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Remember the first rule of gun-fighting...
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Originally Posted By jjglith:
Everything works like it should. http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0005_zps11752c1c.jpg http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0006_zps43bf4a0b.jpg View Quote That's awesome looks like something out of science fiction... |
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What thickness are you guys using for your holsters and belt loops?
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Originally Posted By TobyLazur: What thickness are you guys using for your holsters and belt loops? View Quote Some pancake holsters get a .093 or .125 for the back & .080 for the front. Since all the major suppliers now have injected polymer loops/clips I quit making my own. But is you want to make them yourself use .125 |
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Originally Posted By jjglith:
Everything works like it should. http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0005_zps11752c1c.jpg http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0006_zps43bf4a0b.jpg View Quote I haven't read much on using a vacuum but do you waste more material this way? Obviously your definition is insane and you aren't putting a lot of pressure on a firearms like you would with a press but what are some of the other benefits of doing it this way? |
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Originally Posted By jjglith:
I don't offer a hybrid style. I make taco or pancake holsters I use mostly .080 Some pancake holsters get a .093 or .125 for the back & .080 for the front. Since all the major suppliers now have injected polymer loops/clips I quit making my own. But is you want to make them yourself use .125 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jjglith:
Originally Posted By TobyLazur:
What thickness are you guys using for your holsters and belt loops? Some pancake holsters get a .093 or .125 for the back & .080 for the front. Since all the major suppliers now have injected polymer loops/clips I quit making my own. But is you want to make them yourself use .125 Awesome, thank you. Ordering some material this week. Haven't made anything in almost 2 years, but excited to get back to it. |
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Originally Posted By LINK54: I haven't read much on using a vacuum but do you waste more material this way? Obviously your definition is insane and you aren't putting a lot of pressure on a firearms like you would with a press but what are some of the other benefits of doing it this way? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LINK54: Originally Posted By jjglith: Everything works like it should. http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0005_zps11752c1c.jpg http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0006_zps43bf4a0b.jpg I haven't read much on using a vacuum but do you waste more material this way? Obviously your definition is insane and you aren't putting a lot of pressure on a firearms like you would with a press but what are some of the other benefits of doing it this way? This is my first entry into vacuum formers I have no intention of selling them this was one of three that I and another guys built. It's more of a added dimension of holster making. I still use both my book and taco press. This press was cloned from a press that was selling for $500.00 (just the press ). My total cost was not that high. If your interested in building one or buying one or just looking for more good information on construction and use you can visit the KydexPro forum. The threads about vacuum forming on this forum are very useful and informative. I got a lot of ideas for the plumbing of my press from that forum. Benefits: Yep the definition is outstanding. I'm still discovering different ways to use the press. I can press the top and bottom at the same time. The time from oven to press is dramatically improved resulting no serious loss of temperature of the Kydex. I can do pancakes with variable splits 70/30, 80/20 depending on the foam used and the thickness of the cutout. The cutout is simply a one piece generous size outline of the gun that you place over the gun. Process is Kydex on the cutout-gun-top layer of kydex. A true 50/50 can be done with a blue gun split down the middle butterfly style. One of the gun mold makers offers this as a special order. The thickness of the cutout determines the split. Although I don't do hybrids but it is capable of producing excellent shells for hybrids. With a curved platform you can put the curve in a holster body eliminating a lot of different processes to attain the same results. Taco's can be done also. Multiple mag holders can be laid out and pressed instead of one at a time. For me, it sped up my production time. If your only making a few holsters every so often maybe a vacuum former would not be suitable for that situation. Hope this helped. Here's some links of commercial ready built units if you don't want to build one yourself. http://youtu.be/Y8OgfXpnQAo http://youtu.be/-jPOlbcVZac |
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Originally Posted By jjglith:
Actually the waste is minimized. You can position the sheet and not get shifting like in a book/taco press. Waste to me is just part of the process. I try to keep it to a minimum but it's better to use a bigger piece and cut it to your style of holster than to be short then try to make it fit the gun. On a vacuum former you can see the placement of the Kydex not like a regular press. This is my first entry into vacuum formers I have no intention of selling them this was one of three that I and another guys built. It's more of a added dimension of holster making. I still use both my book and taco press. This press was cloned from a press that was selling for $500.00 (just the press ). My total cost was not that high. If your interested in building one or buying one or just looking for more good information on construction and use you can visit the KydexPro forum. The threads about vacuum forming on this forum are very useful and informative. I got a lot of ideas for the plumbing of my press from that forum. Benefits: Yep the definition is outstanding. I'm still discovering different ways to use the press. I can press the top and bottom at the same time. The time from oven to press is dramatically improved resulting no serious loss of temperature of the Kydex. I can do pancakes with variable splits 70/30, 80/20 depending on the foam used and the thickness of the cutout. The cutout is simply a one piece generous size outline of the gun that you place over the gun. Process is Kydex on the cutout-gun-top layer of kydex. A true 50/50 can be done with a blue gun split down the middle butterfly style. One of the gun mold makers offers this as a special order. The thickness of the cutout determines the split. Although I don't do hybrids but it is capable of producing excellent shells for hybrids. With a curved platform you can put the curve in a holster body eliminating a lot of different processes to attain the same results. Taco's can be done also. Multiple mag holders can be laid out and pressed instead of one at a time. For me, it sped up my production time. If your only making a few holsters every so often maybe a vacuum former would not be suitable for that situation. Hope this helped. Here's some links of commercial ready built units if you don't want to build one yourself. http://youtu.be/Y8OgfXpnQAo http://youtu.be/-jPOlbcVZac View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jjglith:
Originally Posted By LINK54:
Originally Posted By jjglith:
Everything works like it should. http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0005_zps11752c1c.jpg http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t527/Iron_Wolf_Co/WetWolf%20Vacuum%20Former/DSCN0006_zps43bf4a0b.jpg I haven't read much on using a vacuum but do you waste more material this way? Obviously your definition is insane and you aren't putting a lot of pressure on a firearms like you would with a press but what are some of the other benefits of doing it this way? This is my first entry into vacuum formers I have no intention of selling them this was one of three that I and another guys built. It's more of a added dimension of holster making. I still use both my book and taco press. This press was cloned from a press that was selling for $500.00 (just the press ). My total cost was not that high. If your interested in building one or buying one or just looking for more good information on construction and use you can visit the KydexPro forum. The threads about vacuum forming on this forum are very useful and informative. I got a lot of ideas for the plumbing of my press from that forum. Benefits: Yep the definition is outstanding. I'm still discovering different ways to use the press. I can press the top and bottom at the same time. The time from oven to press is dramatically improved resulting no serious loss of temperature of the Kydex. I can do pancakes with variable splits 70/30, 80/20 depending on the foam used and the thickness of the cutout. The cutout is simply a one piece generous size outline of the gun that you place over the gun. Process is Kydex on the cutout-gun-top layer of kydex. A true 50/50 can be done with a blue gun split down the middle butterfly style. One of the gun mold makers offers this as a special order. The thickness of the cutout determines the split. Although I don't do hybrids but it is capable of producing excellent shells for hybrids. With a curved platform you can put the curve in a holster body eliminating a lot of different processes to attain the same results. Taco's can be done also. Multiple mag holders can be laid out and pressed instead of one at a time. For me, it sped up my production time. If your only making a few holsters every so often maybe a vacuum former would not be suitable for that situation. Hope this helped. Here's some links of commercial ready built units if you don't want to build one yourself. http://youtu.be/Y8OgfXpnQAo http://youtu.be/-jPOlbcVZac Thanks! I'm going to start reading about this more I guess. Very interesting. |
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Originally Posted By LINK54: Thanks! I'm going to start reading about this more I guess. Very interesting. View Quote Yes, all of this cooking plastic to make holsters, sheaths, mag carriers etc. is interesting. PVC Thermoforming has become relatively easy and the results are in some cases amazing. The learning curve has been shortened. It doesn't take a huge investment to get started. Basically anyone can do it. The difference is in the craftsman ship you put into something you have made. Some are rough and some are exceptional. But they all do the job with some better than others. I love this thread and have just recently read the whole damn thing. It is a time line of where this craft of holster making had begun and where it is today. With a cast of characters unlike anywhere else. It is truly a great thread. Holster making has changed for the better since it's beginnings. Press has evolved from guy's standing on a board over cut up pieces of exercise mat on top of a piece of hot black plastic. Stuff like making your own holster loops is not necessary any longer with the selection of polymer loops and struts, mil-spec webbing and Pull-The Dot fasteners. There are new suppliers out there that have what you need to make a safe, rugged and damn near indestructible holster. One large American fastener company saw the potential and opened a separate division just for us benders. This can be a great hobby or possibly a small home run business. In some cases it can get as big as you want it. My point is that because of the need for something other than leather or nylon/cordura holsters a lot of people have decided to create small American business, some hiring workers. Some home based companies, with low overhead, make some money too. Some people who only consider this a hobby and sell a few holsters on the side. What this plastic cooking has done is a step in the right direction to try to resurrect the American dream. Thank you fellow Arfcom members y'all did good. I hope I can continue to contribute to the continuation of this craft and this thread. </rant> |
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Hi, I'm Pistol.
Magpul could sue Pistol I guess, or they could man up and sponsor. -RustedAce Looks like a party at the Senior Citizen's Center compared to Cola Warrior, lol. -Covert8645 |
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Best place to buy scrap .080" black kydex?
I need a 10"x 4" section for a misc project |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
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that guy who did that thing that one time
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"The way I see it, the asshole with all the bullet holes should explain why he's bleeding all over your floor." -Sgt_Fish
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G19 adj retention, soft loop and strut. Crappy cell photos. Still figuring out the logo labeling... who knew a stamp wouldnt hit in a neg bend
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Originally Posted By JBeast35:
<a href="http://s.photobucket.com/user/jrhack79/media/kydex/3361C210-1B47-4175-8575-719FC68A2088_zpsctzld9bg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/jrhack79/kydex/3361C210-1B47-4175-8575-719FC68A2088_zpsctzld9bg.jpg</a> <a href="http://s.photobucket.com/user/jrhack79/media/kydex/9BE4D61D-7959-4A2F-8875-02D29E960C4F_zpsxuimgf8n.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/jrhack79/kydex/9BE4D61D-7959-4A2F-8875-02D29E960C4F_zpsxuimgf8n.jpg</a> <a href="http://s.photobucket.com/user/jrhack79/media/kydex/587085CE-D21C-4548-B5AE-F6048E251EED_zpsal45ydrg.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/jrhack79/kydex/587085CE-D21C-4548-B5AE-F6048E251EED_zpsal45ydrg.jpg</a> View Quote Tell us the truth, those cuffs are stuck in there permanently aren't they? But really, those can't be easy to draw. |
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Are any of you guys doing taco style holsters that mount to molle loops?
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Knew I had been saving all my scraps for some thing.
0427142003 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr 0427141847 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr 0427142053 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr Still getting the hand of the stamping. Plan on giving out the key chains with orders. Waiting on one more stamp to come in before I start that. |
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Originally Posted By JBeast35:
They actually come out very quickly because of open design.. This carrier is used 40 hours a week with no issues. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JBeast35:
[b]Originally Posted By para_frame
Tell us the truth, those cuffs are stuck in there permanently aren't they? But really, those can't be easy to draw. They actually come out very quickly because of open design.. This carrier is used 40 hours a week with no issues. Is it two separate pieces riveted together or is it tacoed at the bottom or side opposite of the rivets? Thanks. |
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I'd rather die on my feet then live on my knees.
I came into this world kicking, screaming, and covered in somebody else's blood, and i have no problem going out that way. |
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Originally Posted By para_frame:
Is it two separate pieces riveted together or is it tacoed at the bottom or side opposite of the rivets? Thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By para_frame:
Originally Posted By JBeast35:
[b]Originally Posted By para_frame
Tell us the truth, those cuffs are stuck in there permanently aren't they? But really, those can't be easy to draw. They actually come out very quickly because of open design.. This carrier is used 40 hours a week with no issues. Is it two separate pieces riveted together or is it tacoed at the bottom or side opposite of the rivets? Thanks. Its a taco. Folded at the base and open on both sides. Rivoted on the left so its open for aright hand draw. Secured with a large tek-lock. |
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What is the third screw for?
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Remember the first rule of gun-fighting...
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Originally Posted By bobapunk:
Customer sent this photo of their gun asking about color matching: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/984067_10101100941900705_1692913412143102510_n.jpg Here is what I came up with: https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10255784_294714784030079_8105666101188853628_o.jpg View Quote nice |
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Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5: Originally Posted By bobapunk: Customer sent this photo of their gun asking about color matching: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/984067_10101100941900705_1692913412143102510_n.jpg Here is what I came up with: https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10255784_294714784030079_8105666101188853628_o.jpg nice And to test, The holster will be used in a 2 day ~500 round hand gun class this weekend!
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can someone IM me a link where I can learn step by step how to begin?
also, with what parts/tools i need, etc. Ive read the post on m4carbine but all of the pictures are gone from the users photobucket. |
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Originally Posted By dogesco93:
can someone IM me a link where I can learn step by step how to begin? also, with what parts/tools i need, etc. Ive read the post on m4carbine but all of the pictures are gone from the users photobucket. View Quote kydex press - you can buy one pre-made, or build your own clamps for the kydex press oven - I use a small toaster oven infared thermometer - to get the temp on the kydex right ~320* some kind of bandsaw or scroll saw - I use a bandsaw, but there are smaller and more economical options out there. riveting tools - Dies at the very least, but it's sure nice to have them mounted to an arbor press. buffing/sisal wheel belt sander heat gun for modifying/putting bends in holsters hole templates are really nice to have, but not completely necessary popsicle sticks for building up parts of the gun you don't want the kydex to touch. painters tape to hold the popsicle sticks in place. rulers/straight edge/ colored pencils/erasers for marking cuts and layout box cutter for cutting large chunks of kydex out of a sheet. check out phlster's vids on youtube for how-to. He covers most of it, but a lot needs to be learned through experience once I get a gun taped up the way you want it and the kydex formed, cut one side of the tape along the slide and peel it off. This is a template you can use on other guns of the same model. Templates are molds are the secret to making a quality product imo. |
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anyone use a dremel for any portion of the process?
im gathering everything i need to start and was wondering if a good dremel would be useful for any parts of the process. |
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I use my dremel all the time
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Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/ntLsYc" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/14097713171_496cf6c8f9_z.jpg</a>_MG_5666 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr using all scraps now. View Quote That gives me an idea. I carry a AAA streamlight micro stream and use the 3.7 volt batteries. Thing is they only last half as long. I could make a keychain holster for a spare AAA battery and it would be like a key fob instead of a battery rolling around in your pocket and would be with me always. |
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Hi, I'm Pistol.
Magpul could sue Pistol I guess, or they could man up and sponsor. -RustedAce Looks like a party at the Senior Citizen's Center compared to Cola Warrior, lol. -Covert8645 |
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Originally Posted By 23pistol23:
That gives me an idea. I carry a AAA streamlight micro stream and use the 3.7 volt batteries. Thing is they only last half as long. I could make a keychain holster for a spare AAA battery and it would be like a key fob instead of a battery rolling around in your pocket and would be with me always. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 23pistol23:
Originally Posted By 4DAIVIPAI2K5:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/ntLsYc" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5560/14097713171_496cf6c8f9_z.jpg</a>_MG_5666 by 4DAIVIPAI2K5, on Flickr using all scraps now. That gives me an idea. I carry a AAA streamlight micro stream and use the 3.7 volt batteries. Thing is they only last half as long. I could make a keychain holster for a spare AAA battery and it would be like a key fob instead of a battery rolling around in your pocket and would be with me always. that would be slick. |
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"Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
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i cant get my taco style knife sheaths to fold just right. is there a trick to it?
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"Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
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Using a cb press?
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Originally Posted By dogesco93: anyone use a dremel for any portion of the process? im gathering everything i need to start and was wondering if a good dremel would be useful for any parts of the process. View Quote http://www.harborfreight.com/diamond-coated-rotary-cutting-discs-5-pc-69657.html http://www.harborfreight.com/6-piece-hss-saw-blade-with-mandrel-set-67224.html |
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Originally Posted By jjglith:
I use one with a sanding wheel to flatten the edges prior to sanding and polishing. I use the diamond cutting wheels from HF for rough cutouts of sweat shields where a scroll/band saw isn't useful. The hard felt wheels also are good for final polishing. I just discovered a pack of circular saw blades for the rotary tool it zips through Kydex. (and your fingers if your not careful) http://www.harborfreight.com/diamond-coated-rotary-cutting-discs-5-pc-69657.html http://www.harborfreight.com/6-piece-hss-saw-blade-with-mandrel-set-67224.html View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jjglith:
Originally Posted By dogesco93:
anyone use a dremel for any portion of the process? im gathering everything i need to start and was wondering if a good dremel would be useful for any parts of the process. http://www.harborfreight.com/diamond-coated-rotary-cutting-discs-5-pc-69657.html http://www.harborfreight.com/6-piece-hss-saw-blade-with-mandrel-set-67224.html I've found those at HF about 9 months ago. They work well. |
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Originally Posted By Crimson_Glory:
Now, I know why the libs want our guns, we keep killing off their voters. |
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Here ya go Brad. Crappy cell pictures before I washed it up.
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