Originally Posted By FNFalGuy: Jatoman, I don't understand what the 28,000 gallons of pool water has to do with your survival, unless you have a very agressive filtration system to draw out all of the tons of chemicals needed to keep it clean

Non-potable water.

Originally Posted By hitanrun: Originally Posted By FNFalGuy: Jatoman, I don't understand what the 28,000 gallons of pool water has to do with your survival, unless you have a very agressive filtration system to draw out all of the tons of chemicals needed to keep it clean If you still have power, you can distill it. If you get a different kind of distiller, all you have to do is heat it from fire to distill it, so you wouldn't even need electricity just a good heat source. I guess that's "old school" distilling but waterwise makes a modern day version of a distiller that doesn't need electricity.

You could also make a sun still and have all the fresh, clean water you want (until the pool is empty or the weather gets cool) using an evaporation still:

- Large tarp over entirety of pool, pegged at corners
- large bowl, suspended over pool (or in the water, w/e - just make sure the top is over the water level, and that it isn't going to float about. A partially submerged 55 gal container would be appropriate)
- put weight over bowl so that there's a low point directly over it (a stone, say)
- water evaborates, condenses on underside of tarp, runs to low point (ie where the rock and bowl are) and drops into bowl.
- Use small-gauge hose (small enough to maintain pressure) near bottom of 'bowl' (55 gal container) and use sealant to make sure water doesn't go from pool to bowl and vice versa. hose goes to "house" (or elsewhere) with a cut off valve for when you don't need anymore. If you're producing more drinkable water than you use in a day, the extra just flows back into the pool to be used later.

With even a small swimming pool, you'd probably be able to get enough water for a couple people's daily drinking and cooking without too much of a problem.

Bonus points for the person who directs the flow of their groundwater towards their pool after SHTF. :) My dad has a natural spring which surfaces in his yard and floods the bottom woods a bit (it's always muddy); I'm going to talk to him about ponding it into his swimming pool. :)

Originally Posted By Paul: ] photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=44717 ] Garage: freeze dried vegitables and bleach (note receipe)

Ultra bleach on the left is NO GOOD, from what I have read , it is not the same as regular bleach , differant chemical and no good for people. you might want to check on that so you dont end up and

Even if it is the right chemical , you would think it is a stronger concentration and your recipie should be differant,

Or maybe I should not tell you anything and just find out whare you live ???? wait for ya to poison yourself and move in ....... Nah , could'nt do that. CHECK IN TO IT!!!!!!!

tag

Some of my SRFU's

Self Replicating Food Units

I feel, that on my meager budget that I will never be able to even make 1/20th of the progress that some of you all have. However, I am lucky enough to have a place to go if I can get out.

Originally Posted By sirensong: Originally Posted By fla556guy: I feel, that on my meager budget that I will never be able to even make 1/20th of the progress that some of you all have. However, I am lucky enough to have a place to go if I can get out. you'd be amazed at how fast you will accumulate stuff just by using "the $10 rule" and smart purchasing techniques. every time you go grocery shopping (3-4 times per month), spend $10 on bulk emergency food. what will $10 buy? some of the things i've noticed lately: -15 cans of tuna -10 cans of chicken breast -12 cans of chicken soup -14 cans of vegetables -3# of canned corned beef -4# of coffee -20# of rice -10# of angel hair pasta -6 cases of ramen -4 cases of 20oz bottled water -50 rolls of toilet paper and so on... [edit: i can't spell]

YUP

i do the 10$ rule if i rember lol.

10$ can buy alot of stuff,

12$ will get you 50lbs of rice thats almost 100 days of fod for one person.( 10$ will get you near 40)
10$ will get you 20 cansof tuna on buy one get one sales.
14$ will buy you 2 7 gallon water jugs
10$ will buy you a cheap 1st aid kit
10$ - 550 rnd sof 22, a box of 38,357,9mm,45,30-30 or 762x39
10$ - 5-10 lbs of beans

if you have basics like camping gear/mess kits and stove.
worry about food and h20 1st then move on to the crazy stuff.

Originally Posted By tagar: Some of my SRFU's Self Replicating Food Units img80.imageshack.us/img80/3461/120060070pw.jpg

tagar you have one problem, everyone else will be hunting your SRFU.

Originally Posted By V-Rod: tagar you have one problem, everyone else will be hunting your SRFU.

No more so than the rest of the stuff I wont show. If we are in lock down and two squads of trained individuals show up they will have everything I own. My neighbors all have more SRFU's than I do (mostly cows & sheep) and we are a long way from an easy way in for Joe City. If two squads of untrained individuals show up, me & the neghbors would encourage them to steal elsewhere.

What all could that pool water be used for with the way it sits right now?

I can come up with flushing toilets and bathing/showers and it is also a source of entertainment.

But I am wondering what else it might be ok to use for with the chemicals in it. I am also wondering what it should not be used for because of the chemicals in it as well.

I know you don't want to drink it or use it for cooking but I run out of ideas there.

Overall I think I am just having trouble brainstorming what all I use water for so I figured I better ask.

Originally Posted By sprayandpray: Originally Posted By Paul: ] photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=44717 ] Garage: freeze dried vegitables and bleach (note receipe) Ultra bleach on the left is NO GOOD, from what I have read , it is not the same as regular bleach , differant chemical and no good for people. you might want to check on that so you dont end up and Even if it is the right chemical , you would think it is a stronger concentration and your recipie should be differant, Or maybe I should not tell you anything and just find out whare you live ???? wait for ya to poison yourself and move in ....... Nah , could'nt do that. CHECK IN TO IT!!!!!!!

The Clorox Company verified that you could use the "ultra" interchangably with regular bleach. Not much difference in % to worry about. Main thing is not to use any scented stuff.

Dear Consumer:

Thank you for asking about the use of Ultra CLOROX liquid bleach.

In case of an emergency, we recommend boiling water for 1 minute. When boiling is not possible, we recommend filtering water to let suspended particles settle out. Pour off the clear water and add Ultra CLOROX liquid bleach as follows:

1 teaspoon Ultra CLOROX bleach per 5 gallons water
16 drops Ultra CLOROX bleach per 1 gallon water
4 drops Ultra CLOROX bleach per 1 quart water

Wait 30 minutes. The water should have a slight chlorine odor. If not, repeat dose and wait 15 minutes, then sniff again. Use only Ultra CLOROX bleach, not a scented bleach.

I hope this information is helpful. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact us. Again, thank you for giving me this opportunity to discuss our product.

Sincerely,

Maura D. Hannigan
Product Specialist

MDH/GMV

Originally Posted By Bladerunner: Rmplstlskn Where did you get the combat lifesaver bag? I have been looking for one of those. www.wwyd.org/images/AR15/PREPS/FirstAid%20(5).jpg

I got that a long time ago at a "Preparedness Expo" that used to make the rounds back in the good 'ol days... I have added much to it since then so it is NOT "as issued."

The only place I know of that has these with GOOD stuff still inside is JRH Enterprises.

I did see them somewhere else online but I can't recall it... Sorry!

Rmpl