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Posted: 5/4/2012 8:07:53 PM
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Posted: 5/4/2012 8:37:07 PM
Get some cheap hot dogs and put a couple of split shot a foot to 18 inches from the hook. Fish on the bottom no cork.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:16:39 AM
Chicken livers work. Catfish like stinky bait.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:53:27 AM
Patience, a good lantern, bug repellent, and a cooler of cheap beer. If you can scare up a friend or two, it helps.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 12:08:57 PM
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 12:12:17 PM by TomJefferson]
I grew up in the Ohio Valley.
Here's a truism for you. You rig for minnow, minnows, a lot of them, is what you are going to get. You rig for big ones, it takes longer, but Moby Dick is what you will eventually get. Expand your fishing to go after specific fish. Crappie, blue gill, heck even bass think light gear. Cats, go heavy, big hooks, big weights, a lot of bait. My pals and I when I lived on the Gulf use to shark fish a lot. We'd bait that big ole hook with so much bait the hardhead cats couldn't eat it. It'd take a shark to eat that much bait. Its the same thinking with cats except on a smaller scale. Your bait may get nibbled on by little ones but it takes a big one to gulp it. Cat's will eat about anything. Heck, one time I caught a 9lb blue on a ham and cheeze sandwich. What I can tell you is cats, like most fish, 90% of the battle is knowing where to find them. They're a little different than other fish, they like warm water and run deep. If you are catching crappie then the cats won't be biting all that well. They will move in the water depending on time of year to the deep warmer water. Like all fish though, they get too cold, they'll just linger and not eat. There's two types of categories of cats really, channel and mud. Channels move deep and fast and are best found where they are confused, like about midway in an inlet from a river behind the sand bar. About every inlet to a cove, has openings on either end underwater and a hump/sand bar across the center underwater. When the cat comes in, he'll follow the bank till it shallows then run deep straight back out. When he reaches that sand bar, he will mill about trying to figure it out. That's where he's vulnerable. I catch my bigger blues in about 7-12ft of water behind a sand bar. Now monster muds, I'm talking 25lbs to 60lbs are different yet. The bigger a mud gets, the more lazy he gets. So big, they take to eddies. That the swirls in a current. Eddies will drag food down from the surface. They'll lay down there sucking in stuff hardly moving. That same food will attract smaller fish which they will gobble. See a fish bit in two, Moby Dick is in that eddie. The next hotspot is narrows. Just like the sandbar, eventually fish figure out how to get from point A to point B. A narrow between two bodies of water, concentrates them and they are vulnerable. On a straight bank or a pond, it really is throw it out there and luck they find your bait, unless you use stink. You want a bait that will leave a trail of smell that draws the fish in. That's why old standards like chicken liver works so well on muds. Blues on the other hand prefer fresh bait like minnows. Keep in mind, a cat will follow the bank as he moves, the trick is at what depth? Sometimes that maybe right on the bank, sometimes its as far out as you can throw. Know your underwater contour. For example, the Ohio river is quite unique. Due to all those dams and such a fast current, it drops off very quickly then is flat as hell all the way across to the other bank. On a straight bank, the cats will be running pretty darn close in. Because of that current, there's many eddies near the banks and almost for sure a monster under everyone of them. Also because of that current, deep coves won't have a sand bar but shallow ones do. On the Ohio, those narrows/sand bars are usually up creeks a good distance from the entrance. That too is a result of that strong current. Every body of water is going to be a little different. What really helps is having a boat and using a good fish finder that shows you bottom contour. That makes this learning curve a lot faster. That's especially true for predicting the seasonal habits. Last but not least is some general advice. The more you fish, the more you will catch. There's a learning curve. When you get to the point just by how your pole is moving or how it feels you can pretty much guess what type of fish and how big, you'll be slaying them. Setting that hook is half the battle. Tj |
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Posted: 6/4/2012 7:50:56 PM
Cut bait is the answer,use bluegills and fillet them cut into triangles and leave skin 2 inches by 4.Use a 3/0 or biggerhook, run your hook all the way thru the bait so point is exposed find hole below riffle catch large and many catfish good luck!
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Posted: 6/4/2012 8:05:12 PM
TJs post reminded me of a Tarpon/Shark trip. We were getting plagued by large Sail Cats, I caught one about 4 lbs and cut his head off just behind his pectorals took his top gaff off and cut off his tail rigged him up on a very large circle hook and set him in the current. 30 minutes later my reel started clacking out line very very fast. I went to free spool and thumbed the spool enough to stop a back lash, the fish ran off 100 yards of line and then paused and changed directions. I reeled down to tension and then put a slow, long sweep in the rod to pull the circle into the corner of its mouth. The fish erupted in a long powerful run. I applied max drag and both thumbs, turned the fish and it kicked it into hyper drive straight back at me. This continued for about 15 minutes and finally I had the beast at the side of the boat. It was the biggest sail cat I have ever seen, in disgust I swung him up onto the boat at which point he vomited out the whole bait with the hook point turned back and buried into the bait. He was not even hooked for the whole fight. No idea what it weighed but it was longer than my arm and the 4lb cat easily went down its gullet.
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Posted: 7/2/2012 10:46:44 AM
Originally Posted By RafterMan:
Chicken livers work. Catfish like stinky bait. Exactly. A general rule when trying to catch catfish is.... the more stinky the bate.... the more catfish can't resist it. |
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Posted: 8/21/2012 5:29:05 PM
I always bring several types of bait. Worms, Liver and cut/live bait and generally some kind of stinkbait whether it is dough or dip.
I catch most of my fish in the late spring/early summer when the water warms up enough for them to start spawning, that will depend on where you are though but you can look it up. The location tips above are all pretty good ones. I wouldnt worry about investing the money in heavy braids, winch sized reels and wallet size hooks till you find them in your area and can justify the need for it all. Don't be afraid to move, alot, until you find out where they are. Dont worry about casting a mile out from the bank and make notes/pay attention to what you catch, when, where and what the water temp and weather are so you can see patterns etc. |
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Posted: 8/22/2012 9:30:36 AM
The bigger the bait the bigger the fish. Try using fresh cut bait such as bluegills or perch
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Posted: 8/25/2012 1:47:02 PM
a cheap 5 dollar bag of frozen shrimp from walmart has been good for me lately. throw some garlic or some kind of strawberry flavoring in the bag the night before.
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Posted: 9/17/2012 9:27:58 PM
small crawdads, grasshoppers, cut shad/perch, minnows, chicken/pork/beef/rabbit/squirrel liver, cut up hotdogs soaked in blood...............hell catfish will eat about anything.
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Posted: 9/24/2012 10:49:19 PM
OP, are you fishing rivers or lakes/ponds?
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Posted: 9/26/2012 10:39:37 PM
Originally Posted By blucifershammer:
Cut bait is the answer,use bluegills and fillet them cut into triangles and leave skin 2 inches by 4.Use a 3/0 or biggerhook, run your hook all the way thru the bait so point is exposed find hole below riffle catch large and many catfish good luck! This has been my go to method forever. Almost never let's me down. |
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Posted: 2/18/2013 1:43:46 PM
[Last Edit: 2/18/2013 1:46:02 PM by mojo7]
Last year, I started set-lining in the Missouri river. I finally found a good spot off of a rocky point to set my line in waste deep water. I tried all kinds of baits but what worked the best for me was large night crawlers. I would set my hooks in the evening and then go back in the morning and would have a nice stringer full of 3ish pounder cats, some bigger ones, and occasional walleyes. No more wasting countless hours trying to catch these elusive fish from shore. I love to eat catfish and have found the perfect method. SD changed the law for this year so a guy can set line all year long whereas last year their was a season from May to Oct. As soon as the ice melts from my favorite spot then I am starting in again. My freezer still has frozen fillets and lots of deer meat. Fish while you sleep. Can't get any better than that. Here are some pics. Just to give you a scale I am 6' 11" - 300 plus and those are size 18 shoes.
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Posted: 2/24/2013 11:20:04 AM
Originally Posted By Whisper44:
Originally Posted By blucifershammer:
Cut bait is the answer,use bluegills and fillet them cut into triangles and leave skin 2 inches by 4.Use a 3/0 or biggerhook, run your hook all the way thru the bait so point is exposed find hole below riffle catch large and many catfish good luck! This has been my go to method forever. Almost never let's me down. Another vote for cut bait. Whole frozen smelt from the grocery store is an excellent option if your state has weird regulations. It works really good. |
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Posted: 4/3/2013 9:41:56 PM
OK OP if your on a river i find that the deepest hole you can find is a good place to start for cats. And its usually a night time affiare. you need heavy sinkers to get the bait on the bottom. what i do is i take my sinker i put in on the line just so it moves freely i then tie a barrel swivel with about 12-18 inches of line on it (i put a split shot on the backside of that barrel swivel to keep the sinker on) tie one one of these i dip that in this stuff called stink bait(use a stick you dont want that on your hands) toss that out into the water and wait. usually beer and friends help the whole process out a lot.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 8:30:49 PM
Most cats spend the days in the deepest holes or in the thickest log jams. During daylight hours set your baits just upstream of them. In those areas if possible. During the late evening they will leave those areas and travel. Some cats have a mile long journey they perform per night. They then return to their holes late morning.
I use medium heavy rods that are 7' or longer. I use long rods because I fish from shore. Gets a longer cast out. I use 50lb power pro or spiderwire braid. Rig up with a slip sinker or three way rig. 1-5 ounce sinkers depending on current speed or size of bait. I only use circle hooks. Hooks them in the corner of the mouth every time. I believe cats can feel a treble hook and may spit the bait out. Especially big ones or highly pressured fish. Livers, hotdogs, and cheese may work but you will get your best luck on minnows. Cut up for channel/blue cats and live for flatheads. Get some big suckers at a bait shop or catch them yourself. Bluegills are the best IMO. If legal in your state goldfish are hard to beat too. I generally set 2 cut-bait rods and one live minnow. Be prepared to stay all night and don't give up. Sometimes we go 3 hours between bites. Don't forget lots of bug spray. |
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Posted: 4/16/2013 6:02:19 PM
My best catfish bait is medium sized raw shrimp and also raw bacon that has been microwaved for one minute to get the juices flowing, for both bullheads and channel cats. I have used cut bait, chicken livers, etc but raw shrimp and raw bacon have produced consistently larger and more catfish than any other bait I have tried.
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Posted: 4/16/2013 6:25:03 PM
Chicken liver and cut bait works for me. Live bait for larger flatheads. But I'll let you in on one of my secrets. Anise extract, put it on your bait, catfish go crazy for it.
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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:44:33 AM
Originally Posted By Ndenway:
small crawdads, grasshoppers, cut shad/perch, minnows, chicken/pork/beef/rabbit/squirrel liver, cut up hotdogs soaked in blood...............hell catfish will eat about anything. couldn't agree more. I've used anything from nightcrawlers, minnows, grasshoppers, liver, shrimp, stink bait, and other stuff. I remember during the summer time getting an empty milk jug and tossing 10 or 15 grasshoppers in there. They make for good bait. |
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Posted: 5/16/2013 10:55:06 PM
[Last Edit: 5/16/2013 11:06:16 PM by davewvu86]
If you're going for large cats (30+ lbs), nothing beats fresh cut shad. Pick up a gill net or cast net. I have a 100' x 6' gill net that I use for bait. If you're using a gill net, pick water that is at least 2' deeper than the net to avoid catching small cats on the bottom. Also, a fish pick is worth its weight in gold.
I cut the shad into strips about 2" wide and use a 8/0 circle hook on a fish finder rig. Depending on the current, you might need up to 12 oz of weight to hold bottom with big bait. Look for holes, eddies, drop offs, etc. A fish finder is a must. ETA: Just saw you're in WV. If you have boat, make the drive to the Potomac around Northern, VA. From Fletcher's Boathouse down to Leesylvania, they're catching monsters. Here's some info on a monthly tournament: http://www.potomacrivermonstercats.com/. The standing record is somewhere around 80 lbs. |
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Posted: 5/17/2013 1:34:04 PM
[Last Edit: 5/17/2013 1:35:56 PM by tnriverluver]
6 lb catfish surprise Last couple of outings I have been catching 5 and 6 lbs cats while bream fishing in 2-3 ft of water on crickets. Always a shock when you set the hook and realize that ain't no bream on that small light weight hook!
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Posted: 5/17/2013 2:35:08 PM
Originally Posted By RafterMan:
Chicken livers work. Catfish like stinky bait. Beef liver works to and stays on hook better. we catch cats around here when the river is up some and its a littlie muddy. |
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Posted: 5/28/2013 10:06:14 PM
Large flatheads like live bait. A live perch (where legal) are lethal for the 50+ lbers
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Posted: 5/29/2013 5:41:16 PM
Shit Load of Crawlers on a Big ass Hook with Tons of Weight.
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