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Posted: 7/15/2011 2:33:38 AM

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I am looking to get a small munsterlander and a breeder about 600 miles from me recently had a litter and has one boy still available. I would not have a choice in the dog, other owners get to pick first since they placed a deposit before me. The breeder said he would give my deposit back if i was not happy with the dog when i came to pick him up, but am sort of worried about having no choice in which pup i get. What do you guys think? thanks in advance.
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Posted: 7/15/2011 2:39:01 AM
all dogs are good dogs

they stay that way if they're taken care of properly.
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Posted: 7/15/2011 3:01:43 AM
I will clarify that I am not looking for a show dog, it will be for duck hunting and a companion, but am sort of unsure if i want to be handed a dog with no choice.
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Posted: 7/15/2011 4:44:09 AM
600 is a lot. I suppose I've been away from the states too long.

Here, one just drives around.......strays, are sadly, everywhere.
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Posted: 7/15/2011 8:47:26 AM
Not the best situation, but it could turn out OK. Go spend time with the pup. If it's healthy and seems to bond with you, go for it.
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Posted: 7/17/2011 1:28:09 PM
My newest puppy I just knew his blood line and a picture before I told them to send him up (he flew from Florida to Maine) he was also the only male in the litter so it was either him or none.

It worked out well, I think as long as you are comfortable with the blood line then you would be fine.
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Posted: 7/28/2011 10:38:26 AM
If you can focus on the parents bloodline and see them in action, you should be good to go. There can be snags with even picking a pup but for my past two Brittanies that we have purchased, they have both been via pics and learning about the parents over the phone and then going up and picking the pup up in person. We got to know and trust the breeder which I think is the most important part. They should be able to know if your a good fit for the pup as well.

$600 for a sm. munsterlanderseems to be a steal, two years ago they were $1200 at Pheasants Forever show. But I don't know that breed very well or its average pricing.
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Posted: 7/28/2011 10:42:06 AM
My best dog is a leftover. I was really anxious about spending 400 on a dog I didn't pick out. When I finally got him, he was poor, coonfooted, and skittish.

After a month, he didn't look or act like the same dog. Me and him are bonded for life.
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Posted: 7/29/2011 5:15:37 PM
Thanks for the input, however lat week i decided to go at a german shorthair rescue and spend half a day there playing with several of the dogs. Although i love the SM looks i do not want to deal with a puppy at this point in my life. I went to the shelter looking for a 2 or 3 yr old female and ended up with a 7 year old male, will post pics and more questions in another thread, but he has been a great dog so far.
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Posted: 8/16/2011 8:02:40 PM
Speaking as a breeder of German Shorthaired Pointers, I place every pup and accept a deposit only as guarantee of receiving a pup. I know the pups much better than anyone could by coming out and seeing them once or twice. Find an honest breeder who has sound animals and open a dialog with them. That's the only way I will buy or sell a dog. Most buyers are a little unsure at first but it makes perfect sense once you give it a little thought. We offer a health guarantee and recommend you ask for one. We also will take a pup back within the first thirty days no questions asked and will refund full sale amount. I've never had to do that, but we offer it.
Ask for references and then call them.

Good luck. As with most animals you get out of them what you put into them, except for Dottie the Wonder Donkey. She does her own thing
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Posted: 10/18/2011 12:53:53 PM
Just to contribute to the OP...

We've purchased two Boxers (not hunting dogs, I know) based solely on pictures, pedigree and talking to the breeders. Going to see them in person was not an option (one from Hungary, the other from Slovakia), but we had established a good relationship with the breeders well before the puppies were ever born, and we knew exactly what we were looking for. We communicated our requirements to the breeders and, based on our wants and their knowledge of the puppies, they sent us their recommendations. Then we just picked the one we liked best from the short list. Both dogs have turned out to be EXACTLY what we wanted.

If you think buying a $1000 dog from a breeder a few hundred miles away is a stretch, try buying one for 2.5-3x that price from halfway around the world! But, it can be done as long as you do your homework and establish an open line of communication with a reputable breeder.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:42:11 AM
I didnt have a choice for my first female golden retriever and she was the best dog I ever had. Buddy's till the end
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Posted: 5/27/2012 12:05:18 AM
Originally Posted By christof:
I am looking to get a small munsterlander and a breeder about 600 miles from me recently had a litter and has one boy still available. I would not have a choice in the dog, other owners get to pick first since they placed a deposit before me. The breeder said he would give my deposit back if i was not happy with the dog when i came to pick him up, but am sort of worried about having no choice in which pup i get. What do you guys think? thanks in advance.


Paid $1,500 for my black lab male no choice and that was paid infull when the litter hit the ground or no dog.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 5:09:26 AM
http://www.ballbluff.com/pedigree-Deke.htm

the rare Chesapeake Hound, you will be lucky just to get one let along pick it out.
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Posted: 5/27/2012 2:27:29 PM
For a pet, no not really.

For a working dog, heck yes, I would mind. I don't mind going to look at just one pup and having the option to say no thanks but stuck with what they give me, nope. For a working dog, temperament is just too important and the wrong temperament, you won't be happy with the dog, which is unfair to the dog.

With dogs, there's easy to train, hard to train, and just won't take to train.

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Posted: 5/29/2012 6:14:55 PM
Originally Posted By christof:
Thanks for the input, however lat week i decided to go at a german shorthair rescue and spend half a day there playing with several of the dogs. Although i love the SM looks i do not want to deal with a puppy at this point in my life. I went to the shelter looking for a 2 or 3 yr old female and ended up with a 7 year old male, will post pics and more questions in another thread, but he has been a great dog so far.


They are addicting i have rescued 26 GSP over the years. 7 is a good age they start to calm down a little by than The dog will still need a lot of excuse. Did you go through the GSP rescue foundation ? or just the local spca ?

The best rescue i owned <pepper> was from a owner that died of brain cancer in Rochester NY. Dog was kept outside in a pen all his life and no way was i going to leave a dog in a pen in below zero degree weather. I got pepper in February time frame he didn't know how to go and down stairs or laying on a bed. Well about 4 months later dog took my side of the bed and didn't like begin outside for sure. He could hunt though. The dog was the most amazing dog i have ever owned and the second GSP to refused to hunt with people that couldn't hit the birds. After about three misses he would head back to the truck. Pepper hunted for three years and then his hips started to bother him and year after that i had to put him down since he couldn't walk. Bugger fought all the way to the end not giving up the fight. Vet made the comment i have never seen a dog fight the meds of putting them to sleep so much.


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Posted: 6/3/2012 9:52:45 AM
Just for future reference,
I run Labrador retrievers in hunt test and hunt all over the states.

My last two dogs were bought unseen from out of state breeders, I carefully study the dogs pedigrees and deal with a reputable breeder who I then explain exactly what I am looking for to. Both dogs are now Hunting Retriever Champions that I am extremely happy with.

The Key is to only deal with a reputable breeder and to do your homework on the parents.
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Posted: 2/26/2013 11:50:58 PM
i know you already got your dog from the rescue... however i just wanted to put in my opinion on the original question...

if you wanted to get a dog and you put in a deposite in and you were the last one to draw from a litter, and you had to go with a last dog that was available and there was no others to choose from... well HELL...!!! that means that... THAT DOG WAS MEANT FOR YOU..!!! Fate took out all the chance and just give you the dog that was meant to be with you...!!!

i strongly believe under those particular circumstances that, that was probably going to be the best dog you ever owned..

just my 2 cents

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I recently read the book "Walk with Wick". (John Wick) This book is considered the bible on every aspect of coonhounds. Wick is a breeder, trainer and hunter and according to his experience, it is impossible to identify a particular puppy as having certain hunting qualities over others from the same litter. His method for deciding which puppy he will keep from a litter is simple, he keeps the last pup remaining after everyone else has picked the ones they like best.

eta - I just noticed I replied to a Zombie thread! haha