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Posted: 6/28/2017 12:20:59 PM EDT
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I use spray to but I'm sure the soak method is much more efficient. I'll probably do that this year too. I don't think there is much too it. Run a rinse cycle on your clothes and dump a proportional amount of premithium into the cycle. Throw it in the dryer and your GTG.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 1:33:15 PM EDT
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You'll have to search, but there was a recent thread on this (last couple days).
Posters noted that you may get fewer smells if you use a permethrin concentrate that is NOT diluted with "other petroleum distillates" as noted on the bottle. Some were of the opinion that the sprays had better staying-power in clothing, because it was formulated to bond with fabric (this was speculation/anecdotal). I've used the soak method with a concentrate with petroleum products making up the inactive ingredients, and it only had a faint odor after drying. I never washed them enough myself to determine if they had better or worse longevity than a spray. That said, be VERY careful when handling the stuff, and look online for calculators that will get you the right concentration from whatever you are starting with. Concentration, the molar mass of permethrin itself, and simple arithmetic errors (0.5% vs decimal 0.005!) could be a waste, stink, or maybe make you sick. Check your math and be immediately skeptical of anyone saying "dude, just dilute x into y and you're good to go"! |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 1:45:32 PM EDT
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I tried it on a couple pairs of pants. The only thing it did was cause the ticks to accelerate rapidly toward your crotch region.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 7:51:55 PM EDT
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I thought permethrin was supposed to kill ticks on contact?
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Posted: 6/28/2017 8:45:54 PM EDT
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It doesn't our kind of ticks, It may make them feel a bit dizzy, but mostly it just makes them crawl a lot faster toward their intended target . . . your scrotum.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 9:52:40 PM EDT
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I use spray to but I'm sure the soak method is much more efficient. I'll probably do that this year too. I don't think there is much too it. Run a rinse cycle on your clothes and dump a proportional amount of premithium into the cycle. Throw it in the dryer and your GTG. But I sprayed mine this year a bit heavy! So I call Sawyer's. Seam I put it on a bit thick. Which was OK! Ask them about throwing in to the drier! So I could wear them the next day! Sawyer told me that was not a good idea! To heat up dryer! Then put clothes inside with dryer off! But that was Sawyer sprayed on. Not soaked!!! PITA45 
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Posted: 6/29/2017 7:14:01 AM EDT
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I thought permethrin was supposed to kill ticks on contact? I also treat all of my cloths, pants and shirts. Maybe if you just treat the cuffs of your boots the ticks might move towards your junk, but I've never had that problem. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 9:15:14 AM EDT
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I love the stuff. The ticks and chiggers have been really bad here in middle TN.
Permethrin is interesting stuff. It is a nerve toxin and kills arachnids (ticks and chiggers are arachnids) like mad but safe for humans. You would have to take a bath in the stuff to have bad effects. When they say permithrin bases lice cream is safe for pregnant women to use you know the stuff is pretty benign to humans. Don't get it on your cat or in your fish tank but you would have to do some pretty stupid stuff with it to poison yourself. It does seem to work faster on the big ticks. I have watch it kill the big ticks crawling across my treated pant leg. The small ones don't seem effected as quickly but it does kill them if they stay on your treated cloths long enough. I have had one tick on me this year after many days hunting turkey this spring and working the food plots. I don't mess with the concentrate that seems mostly for treating yards and crops. I just use the Sawyers brand and spray a heavy coat on my cloths, boots and hat a day or two before I head out into the woods. You can get two packs of the Sawyers spray from Amazon pretty cheap and free shipping with Prime. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 1:48:48 PM EDT
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Permethrin works great. My only experience is with the sawyer spray though and I don't follow the directions and apply to my clothes whilst wearing them.
It is deadly to cats (my understanding is they have some gene that mutated making them susceptible to it) and fish. It is Ok for dogs and birds. They actually make a powder meant for sprinkling on chickens to kill mites. I used it on my pigeon when I found him as a stray and it worked very well (the vet actually gave me dog frontline (which also has permethrin IIRC) to use but it wasn't working too well just dabbing his back). |
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Posted: 6/30/2017 9:08:32 AM EDT
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I just hang mine up on the line and spray them and let them hang dry. Works fine for me.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 10:00:06 AM EDT
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I thought permethrin was supposed to kill ticks on contact? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:18:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
You'll have to search, but there was a recent thread on this (last couple days). Posters noted that you may get fewer smells if you use a permethrin concentrate that is NOT diluted with "other petroleum distillates" as noted on the bottle. Some were of the opinion that the sprays had better staying-power in clothing, because it was formulated to bond with fabric (this was speculation/anecdotal). I've used the soak method with a concentrate with petroleum products making up the inactive ingredients, and it only had a faint odor after drying. I never washed them enough myself to determine if they had better or worse longevity than a spray. That said, be VERY careful when handling the stuff, and look online for calculators that will get you the right concentration from whatever you are starting with. Concentration, the molar mass of permethrin itself, and simple arithmetic errors (0.5% vs decimal 0.005!) could be a waste, stink, or maybe make you sick. Check your math and be immediately skeptical of anyone saying "dude, just dilute x into y and you're good to go"! The problem with spraying is what you lose in overspray, but it's easier than soaking. The military kits use soaking and say to do it for 3 hours. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:20:19 AM EDT
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I thought permethrin was supposed to kill ticks on contact? |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:28:35 AM EDT
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Any other options for those of us with cats? My kids have both gotten ticks on them already this year and I would like to be able to put something on their clothes when playing outside. Of course being 7 and 5 those clothes usually end up on the floor, and we have two indoor/outdoor cats that they play with constantly.
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Posted: 7/1/2017 11:34:38 AM EDT
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Any other options for those of us with cats? My kids have both gotten ticks on them already this year and I would like to be able to put something on their clothes when playing outside. Of course being 7 and 5 those clothes usually end up on the floor, and we have two indoor/outdoor cats that they play with constantly. |
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Posted: 7/1/2017 12:03:40 PM EDT
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Any other options for those of us with cats? My kids have both gotten ticks on them already this year and I would like to be able to put something on their clothes when playing outside. Of course being 7 and 5 those clothes usually end up on the floor, and we have two indoor/outdoor cats that they play with constantly. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 9:19:08 AM EDT
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I just bought a combo pack from Bioshield. It's natural and safe. It came with a topical spray, body wash, and laundry detergent. I have only used the spray so far that seems to work..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XWCQG8G?tag=vglnk-c102-20 |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 9:50:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
You'll have to search, but there was a recent thread on this (last couple days). Posters noted that you may get fewer smells if you use a permethrin concentrate that is NOT diluted with "other petroleum distillates" as noted on the bottle. Some were of the opinion that the sprays had better staying-power in clothing, because it was formulated to bond with fabric (this was speculation/anecdotal). I've used the soak method with a concentrate with petroleum products making up the inactive ingredients, and it only had a faint odor after drying. I never washed them enough myself to determine if they had better or worse longevity than a spray. That said, be VERY careful when handling the stuff, and look online for calculators that will get you the right concentration from whatever you are starting with. Concentration, the molar mass of permethrin itself, and simple arithmetic errors (0.5% vs decimal 0.005!) could be a waste, stink, or maybe make you sick. Check your math and be immediately skeptical of anyone saying "dude, just dilute x into y and you're good to go"! |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 12:38:11 PM EDT
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Field report from soaking:
Got Martin's 10% Permethrin on Amazon, diluted it to 0.5% (0.64 fl oz in 1 gallon water) and soaked my clothes in it for an hour. Then let it hang to dry. No smells, and it worked great on my hike through the woods this weekend; not a single tick on me. Still no idea how long it'll last, but this method is dirt cheap compared to the Sawyer spray (which I still use on my dog). |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 8:25:27 PM EDT
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Field report from soaking: Got Martin's 10% Permethrin on Amazon, diluted it to 0.5% (0.64 fl oz in 1 gallon water) and soaked my clothes in it for an hour. Then let it hang to dry. No smells, and it worked great on my hike through the woods this weekend; not a single tick on me. Still no idea how long it'll last, but this method is dirt cheap compared to the Sawyer spray (which I still use on my dog). But yes, it is much cheaper than Sawyer and I believe the Martin's label also has mixing instructions for using it on horses, cattle, and dogs, so you can still mix some up and spray your dog with it (not for use on cats though!). I've been using the Martin's (water based and no petroleum distillates) for years and haven't had a single tick, flea or chigger. I spray my clothing (and my wife's) every 30 days although it probably is effective for longer than that. Using the Martin's makes it cheap enough to not worry about it. The quart bottle will last for a couple years. |
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Posted: 7/3/2017 11:18:26 PM EDT
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Permetherin is fricken magic for keeping ticks off of you. If treated right, they will fall off before they even make it up your leg. In the last three years I haven't found a single tick on me - hiking hundreds of miles in the Appalachian mtns - and having other people in my party who did get ticks.
I like spray, but I did buy some concentrate. There are also places you can find online where you can mail your clothes and have them professionally treated. Also highly recommend boxer briefs and or compression shorts to keep everything away from your nether regions. |
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Posted: 7/4/2017 12:58:16 AM EDT
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Your calculations are off. Should be 6.4 oz of 10% permethrin per gallon to get a 0.5% solution. If you only used .64oz, then you got lucky and should retreat your clothing. But yes, it is much cheaper than Sawyer and I believe the Martin's label also has mixing instructions for using it on horses, cattle, and dogs, so you can still mix some up and spray your dog with it (not for use on cats though!). I've been using the Martin's (water based and no petroleum distillates) for years and haven't had a single tick, flea or chigger. I spray my clothing (and my wife's) every 30 days although it probably is effective for longer than that. Using the Martin's makes it cheap enough to not worry about it. The quart bottle will last for a couple years. 
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Posted: 7/4/2017 6:38:57 PM EDT
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Ahhh whoops. I calculated from 100% concentrate instead of 10% concentrate. 
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Posted: 7/4/2017 7:22:55 PM EDT
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Mil kits available on eBay for cheap. Work like a champ. You soak with those kits; comes with bag, concentrate, gloves, string to tie your rolled up pant/shirt. Add water to concentrate, shake, soak for 3 hours, hang dry
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Posted: 7/5/2017 1:54:27 PM EDT
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Wife is really into the essential oils and looked up an alternative to chemicals for the kids and the cats. Apparently a mix of Lemongrass and Peppermint into a spray will do the trick. I'll get back after I've had a chance to test it.
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Posted: 7/5/2017 8:48:43 PM EDT
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I too use the Sawyer spray on one on my hunting clothes.
I put the clothes in a big plastic clothes bin and spray heavy both sides. Then I put in the next item and spray both sides, etc. until everything in sprayed heavy and in the bin. Then I close the bin and put it in my garage for couple days until everything is soaked in to fabric and everything is dry. I don't put it in the dryer. After I wear it, I wash it in washing machine and then hang dry. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 9:10:41 AM EDT
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I just did the 10% stuff off Amazon and diluted it down to around .6% or so. Then I soaked my clothes in the mix, both in sealed gallon size freezer ziplocs. After that, I squeezed them out and hung them to dry in our garage. The next day, the clothes were dried out.
I tested them on Mt Hood about a week later and wasn't hit by mosquitoes, but there weren't many to begin with. |
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Posted: 7/22/2017 2:02:38 PM EDT
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