Rapid fire and multiple shot help
Hey all i am a bit new to the ar 15 world and have a question. I'm hitting the range and trying double taps a bit of rapid firing when i'm down to my last mag for fun. And i know i'm wondering how to people keep on target so well while shooting like that? Its not like my ar 15 has any recoil but the muzzle jumps all over to hell and back

is keeping control something that just comes with alot of range time? Or is there something i'm missing? Oh and i forgot to mention i'm running a pretty much stock Panther lite 16.
You need to pull the rifle buttstock solidly into your shoulder pocket with the firing hand or if you're using a carriage system or chest rig, whichever part of your upper torso you're using to mount / position the buttstock. Don't "squeeze" the pistol grip, but using the middle, ring and little finger, pull the rifle into your shoulder. Anchoring the rifle in that manner will help minimize muzzle rise.
Put a muzzle break on that thing and an MGI buffer and do what previous poster wrote and that will equal little to no muzzle movement!!!!!!!!!
Trigger control is the key....practice slow first, get the basics down before working on speed. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast!
Slowly build up speed until yer no longer making good hits, then slow it back down. Anyone can yank the trigger and send bullets down range fast. Dont be in a hurry to shoot too fast.
Absorb recoil with your body by leaning into the recoil. Don't shoot faster than you can shoot accurately. After lots of practice, the recoil cycle becomes easier to manage and you can get your rifle back on target much faster.
You do not need a muzzle brake on a 5.56mm rifle.
It may sound trite and stupid but I was always taught
"Slow is smooth, Smooth is Fast"
Which I take to mean. Go slow and get the smoothness. Get a sense of the cadence of the cycle. Then once you are smooth and accurate in your firing, speed it up until you start to get ragged. Back off but keep pushing the edge of the skill level. Just blowing through rounds will not get you where you want to be. You gotta have a plan for the training.
Like many things in both martial arts or shooting, I believe the fix here is STANCE.
Have both your shoulders more square to the target than not, bend your shock absorbers, and get the rifle out of the old skool DCM shoulder pocket and onto the pec muscle.
––Fargo007
Good advice so far.
One other suggestion that has worked for me is running my weak hand out as close to the muzzle as I can without getting burned by the barrel and bringing your weak side thumb up and over the top of your hand guards.
I resisted this grip style for a while, but I caved and now I am seeing massive gains with my secondary shots.
Get the rifle more towards the centerline of your body (on the breast plate), pull the rifle firmly into your body, knees bent with your weight on the balls of your feet.
Muzzle Brakes and Compensators cut muzzle jump. I've been using a JP Enterprise Tactical Comp on my Rock River and I'm very happy with it.
The correct use of a sling will help as well.
A couple have posted things they do, which is what works for me. More of a square/isoscoles stance with the rifle buttstock close to the center line of my chest and my support hand gripping the front area of the handguard, but over the top of the handguard instead of supporting it (thumb over the top of the handguard and fingers beneath). With minimal practice, muzzle flip is nonexistant and rapid fire groups are within a couple inches or less.
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Good advice so far.
One other suggestion that has worked for me is running my weak hand out as close to the muzzle as I can without getting burned by the barrel and bringing your weak side thumb up and over the top of your hand guards.
I resisted this grip style for a while, but I caved and now I am seeing massive gains with my secondary shots.
I got into this recently and I too have seen better accuracy with the follow up shots. I have a vfg mounted fairly well forward on a float tube. I don't grip it in the conventional sense but use it more like a hand stop, with the weak/support hand in front, pulling the gun into the shoulder. Only the little and ring finger are in contact with the vfg with middle finger, ring finger and thumb around the float tube. It sounds awkward but isn't. Look at Jerry Miculek shooting Practical Rifle on YouTube. You'll get the idea..