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What I learned at Tiger Valley's Precision rifle intro. 56k go take a hike.
12/17/2009 10:25:37 PM
First off. Let me say Thanks to T.J., Ben, and all the other TV staff that hosted all of us that cold windless morning last Saturday.
As always The facility was well organized and groomed. Targets were hung for us, and all we had to do was pull our weight.
I brought a rifle that I consider accurate and suitable for 300+ yards. It is, and was, but it has limits,... and I ran right into them.
75 people showed up. And there was a wide range of weapons and gear. 25% were Precision Ars of one flavor or another. 25% were Ar-10 varriants, 20% were High end bolt guns. (Acuracy international, etc) 10% were Hunting rifles, and then there were some M1As.
We fired 5 rounds at 200 no wind. then 5 movers. The same at 300, 500, 600, and at 800 we only launched 5 at stationary targets.
Pits were pulled. markers posted between shots.
What I learned. (That I can articulate.)
1) A 1inch scope tube does not have enough turret adjustment for 600-800 m. You need extended turrets, a 30mm tube and if you can a BDC.
2) Not all High end scopes are pricey. Super sniper scopes were all over the range and performed in the damp mist perfectly. $275new
3) Blast houses and muzzle breaks are not just fashion accessories. All the people who did well at 800 has Muzzle devices.
4) Bull barrels are a must. Barrel flex due to heat spoils even the most careful planning.
5) Hunting rifles are great for 20 rounds then you see the heats effects. You can not compete against a bedded and built rifle after that.
6) Eye sight, technique, and weapons familiarity, are everything. We had a injury from a scope on one squad from a guy that switched shoulders.
7) Even High-end rifles when mixed with unproven or off brand equipment will fail to perform at 600-800m. Do not cut corners. Proven solutions are not always expensive.
8) Ammo is key. Fire formed cases, loaded to exacting specifications worked the best. Even superior hunting ammo suffered at 500.
9) You do not need to break the bank. There were Rem 700, Savages, and Howa rifles out there that kicked ass with match 308. They were new and had original stocks and walmart bipods.
10) CDNN .com is a great spot for mounts that work on a budget.
All in all I had fun. My stationary Targets were hit all the way out to 600 ( Ran out of elevation adjustment at 500). I struck my 600 4 times out of the 5, and then I only struck once at 800. I was guessing with a Duplexed hunting scope at that point. I had a 50% hit ratio on my movers.
My rifle- A Stock Savage 110,non accu trigger, with Millit rings, an older (1980s) 3-10x 45mm Bushnell scope. Short bipods.and a 16 inch barrel. 1MOA with good hunting ammo.
Did I mention the guy who commuted to it from Dallas in his own Helo?
Pics
As always The facility was well organized and groomed. Targets were hung for us, and all we had to do was pull our weight.
I brought a rifle that I consider accurate and suitable for 300+ yards. It is, and was, but it has limits,... and I ran right into them.
75 people showed up. And there was a wide range of weapons and gear. 25% were Precision Ars of one flavor or another. 25% were Ar-10 varriants, 20% were High end bolt guns. (Acuracy international, etc) 10% were Hunting rifles, and then there were some M1As.
We fired 5 rounds at 200 no wind. then 5 movers. The same at 300, 500, 600, and at 800 we only launched 5 at stationary targets.
Pits were pulled. markers posted between shots.
What I learned. (That I can articulate.)
1) A 1inch scope tube does not have enough turret adjustment for 600-800 m. You need extended turrets, a 30mm tube and if you can a BDC.
2) Not all High end scopes are pricey. Super sniper scopes were all over the range and performed in the damp mist perfectly. $275new
3) Blast houses and muzzle breaks are not just fashion accessories. All the people who did well at 800 has Muzzle devices.
4) Bull barrels are a must. Barrel flex due to heat spoils even the most careful planning.
5) Hunting rifles are great for 20 rounds then you see the heats effects. You can not compete against a bedded and built rifle after that.
6) Eye sight, technique, and weapons familiarity, are everything. We had a injury from a scope on one squad from a guy that switched shoulders.
7) Even High-end rifles when mixed with unproven or off brand equipment will fail to perform at 600-800m. Do not cut corners. Proven solutions are not always expensive.
8) Ammo is key. Fire formed cases, loaded to exacting specifications worked the best. Even superior hunting ammo suffered at 500.
9) You do not need to break the bank. There were Rem 700, Savages, and Howa rifles out there that kicked ass with match 308. They were new and had original stocks and walmart bipods.
10) CDNN .com is a great spot for mounts that work on a budget.
All in all I had fun. My stationary Targets were hit all the way out to 600 ( Ran out of elevation adjustment at 500). I struck my 600 4 times out of the 5, and then I only struck once at 800. I was guessing with a Duplexed hunting scope at that point. I had a 50% hit ratio on my movers.
My rifle- A Stock Savage 110,non accu trigger, with Millit rings, an older (1980s) 3-10x 45mm Bushnell scope. Short bipods.and a 16 inch barrel. 1MOA with good hunting ammo.
Did I mention the guy who commuted to it from Dallas in his own Helo?
Pics
12/17/2009 10:51:44 PM
I was there and had a great Time! And did better then I expected.
12/18/2009 12:33:58 AM
that sounds like an insane amount of fun. I would have loved to taken my 6br out there but I would need more practice first.
12/18/2009 12:46:55 AM
How 'bout the helo...was any one able to hit IT?
2/28/2010 12:30:42 PM
Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
How 'bout the helo...was any one able to hit IT?
How 'bout the helo...was any one able to hit IT?
3/3/2010 7:03:02 PM
Awesome group picture.
What does TX law say about carrying in your chopper? haha.
What does TX law say about carrying in your chopper? haha.
3/21/2010 1:42:59 PM
Thanks for the write up. I've been looking into this.
1/5/2011 6:16:41 AM
Ma Duce and Ben are good folks. I took a precision class from them a few years back and learned a ton. Been to a couple of open shoots there too.
Wish they had more open shoot days down there, but I understand why they don't.
Wish they had more open shoot days down there, but I understand why they don't.
