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AAR: MDTS Combative Carbine Skills 1&2
11/8/2009 10:28:20 PM
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Course: MDTS Combative Carbine Skills 1 & 2
Instructor: Chris Fry, Joel K assistant
Date: November 7th 2009 0900-1630
Location: Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club, Old Bridge, NJ
Rifle: Bushmaster Lower, Sully Stock, BCM 16” Mid-length, XS Big Dot Front Site, EoTech 552. (Original SOE Single Point Sling) Henderson Defense Rommy G Kit Built on a NDS-3 Receiver. (Original SOE Two Point Sling), Glock 23
Gear: Original SOE MWR-L 4 Mag, OSOE Tear off IFAK, Peltor Tac-6’s, Willy-X eye pro.
This was my first training with Chris Frye and MDTS, but not my first professional training class. Previously I’ve received training from the US Army and Tactical Response. I will be going back to any subsequent classes with MDTS.
I rode up to Old Bridge with Joel K and we arrived early (0815) and were greeted by John (President of Old Bridge). The range facilities were nice, and we had our own private bay for this course, it appeared 75yds long and 50yds wide. Parking was also convient in that we could back our cars up the range. There were two port-a-jons there as well.
The course started promptly and we began with a safety brief. The firearms safety rules were explained for all, aswell as a emergency response plan. We had two medically trained people in the class myself and Doc. Per the range the class would be run as a cold range.
People who took the class were from various walks of life. We had Corrections Officer, Doctor, EMT, Financial Planner, and various other professions. Some people have been to numerous other classes both by MDTS and other instructors. A few people have only had an AR for a couple months prior to this class.
First we were asked if our rifles were zeroed. There were a couple of people whose rifles were not. (I wanted to confirm my zero) Chris provided a cool zeroing target that I liked. My AR was good to go and so was my AK. Chris assisted the shooters as to how to zero. Once everyone was squared away class started.
The class was split up into two relays of 7 people, I thought this was very efficient and different than my previous training classes. It allowed for one group to be shooting and the other to be stuffing mags. This also allowed for one relay to observe the sequence of the course of fire.
The class covered various types of reloads and the appropriate method for each. Most of this was a refresher for me but it’s always good to go over fundamentals. Magazine gripping technique was discussed and the “Beer Can Grip”. The press check/magazine check was also very good and new to me. Look/feel the mag before you put it in the mag well to see what side the round is on, then incert slap bolt release and then remove mag and take not which side its on. If opposite a round went into battery. This is very well thought out especially for a low/no light situation.
The four points of contact module was also very good. Joel demonstrated while Chris explained which each is important. The stance discussion was also interesting, and now I will be in a predatory stance.
4 Points of Contact:
High Tang Grip
Stock in shoulder
Cheek Weld
Support hand
Transitions were covered in this course. Be it with a sling or without. I particularly liked the slingless rifle retention and then pistol draw.
One thing stress was only hits count.
Malfunctions were covered VERY WELL in this course; both in lecture and practice. This is especially important because if you gun goes down you need to know how to unfuck it. A new concept I learned was to use your leg as the base instead of the deck when doing the “mortar” method of clearing a malfunction. This block of instruction was reinforce by doing the “malfunction junction”. This allowed you to practice the clearances of all types of malfunctions.
The support side shooting was great. Like most I hate support side shooting and rarely practice it, but this class forces you to do it. Surprisingly I did better with that then I thought. Shooting from various positions included, squat, kneeling, prone, and standing.
Shooing from various types of cover was very good. We shot around cover from the right and left from all shooting positions. There was also shooting through the barricades various shaped/size holes. This forced you to manipulate yourself and weapon in all kinds of crazy ways. This practice in adapting and overcoming a screwy cover/concealment situation is needed.
All in all I thought this course was awesome. I highly recommend it anyone with an AR/AK style rifle. I was very surprised that there were quite a few people who only recently got into the AR/AK game and took it upon them self to get professional training, good on you guys! I left this class thinking damn Chris covered a lot of material, I took notes for the first half of the day and not that second and I know I am missing a lot of what was covered. I will defiantly be taking MDTS classes in the future.
I shot approximately 200rds of 5.56, 250rds of 7.62x39mm, 45rds .40. My AR ran great had two magazine related issues (double feeds). I am the owner of the only AK that isn’t 100% reliable. Had continued issues with the disconector failing, but it’s going to be sent out to be fixed. My gear was set up a bit funky and my IFAK would not let me draw my pistol cleanly from my OWB holster. I had to remove it for the day. Coming to classes is a great place to test your gear and guns as well as learn.
And again, Thank You Kane and Spike's Tactical!
This is Kane fixing the target that blew over...
Course: MDTS Combative Carbine Skills 1 & 2
Instructor: Chris Fry, Joel K assistant
Date: November 7th 2009 0900-1630
Location: Old Bridge Rifle and Pistol Club, Old Bridge, NJ
Rifle: Bushmaster Lower, Sully Stock, BCM 16” Mid-length, XS Big Dot Front Site, EoTech 552. (Original SOE Single Point Sling) Henderson Defense Rommy G Kit Built on a NDS-3 Receiver. (Original SOE Two Point Sling), Glock 23
Gear: Original SOE MWR-L 4 Mag, OSOE Tear off IFAK, Peltor Tac-6’s, Willy-X eye pro.
This was my first training with Chris Frye and MDTS, but not my first professional training class. Previously I’ve received training from the US Army and Tactical Response. I will be going back to any subsequent classes with MDTS.
I rode up to Old Bridge with Joel K and we arrived early (0815) and were greeted by John (President of Old Bridge). The range facilities were nice, and we had our own private bay for this course, it appeared 75yds long and 50yds wide. Parking was also convient in that we could back our cars up the range. There were two port-a-jons there as well.
The course started promptly and we began with a safety brief. The firearms safety rules were explained for all, aswell as a emergency response plan. We had two medically trained people in the class myself and Doc. Per the range the class would be run as a cold range.
People who took the class were from various walks of life. We had Corrections Officer, Doctor, EMT, Financial Planner, and various other professions. Some people have been to numerous other classes both by MDTS and other instructors. A few people have only had an AR for a couple months prior to this class.
First we were asked if our rifles were zeroed. There were a couple of people whose rifles were not. (I wanted to confirm my zero) Chris provided a cool zeroing target that I liked. My AR was good to go and so was my AK. Chris assisted the shooters as to how to zero. Once everyone was squared away class started.
The class was split up into two relays of 7 people, I thought this was very efficient and different than my previous training classes. It allowed for one group to be shooting and the other to be stuffing mags. This also allowed for one relay to observe the sequence of the course of fire.
The class covered various types of reloads and the appropriate method for each. Most of this was a refresher for me but it’s always good to go over fundamentals. Magazine gripping technique was discussed and the “Beer Can Grip”. The press check/magazine check was also very good and new to me. Look/feel the mag before you put it in the mag well to see what side the round is on, then incert slap bolt release and then remove mag and take not which side its on. If opposite a round went into battery. This is very well thought out especially for a low/no light situation.
The four points of contact module was also very good. Joel demonstrated while Chris explained which each is important. The stance discussion was also interesting, and now I will be in a predatory stance.
4 Points of Contact:
High Tang Grip
Stock in shoulder
Cheek Weld
Support hand
Transitions were covered in this course. Be it with a sling or without. I particularly liked the slingless rifle retention and then pistol draw.
One thing stress was only hits count.
Malfunctions were covered VERY WELL in this course; both in lecture and practice. This is especially important because if you gun goes down you need to know how to unfuck it. A new concept I learned was to use your leg as the base instead of the deck when doing the “mortar” method of clearing a malfunction. This block of instruction was reinforce by doing the “malfunction junction”. This allowed you to practice the clearances of all types of malfunctions.
The support side shooting was great. Like most I hate support side shooting and rarely practice it, but this class forces you to do it. Surprisingly I did better with that then I thought. Shooting from various positions included, squat, kneeling, prone, and standing.
Shooing from various types of cover was very good. We shot around cover from the right and left from all shooting positions. There was also shooting through the barricades various shaped/size holes. This forced you to manipulate yourself and weapon in all kinds of crazy ways. This practice in adapting and overcoming a screwy cover/concealment situation is needed.
All in all I thought this course was awesome. I highly recommend it anyone with an AR/AK style rifle. I was very surprised that there were quite a few people who only recently got into the AR/AK game and took it upon them self to get professional training, good on you guys! I left this class thinking damn Chris covered a lot of material, I took notes for the first half of the day and not that second and I know I am missing a lot of what was covered. I will defiantly be taking MDTS classes in the future.
I shot approximately 200rds of 5.56, 250rds of 7.62x39mm, 45rds .40. My AR ran great had two magazine related issues (double feeds). I am the owner of the only AK that isn’t 100% reliable. Had continued issues with the disconector failing, but it’s going to be sent out to be fixed. My gear was set up a bit funky and my IFAK would not let me draw my pistol cleanly from my OWB holster. I had to remove it for the day. Coming to classes is a great place to test your gear and guns as well as learn.
And again, Thank You Kane and Spike's Tactical!
This is Kane fixing the target that blew over...
