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Forster  [Member]
10/17/2008 9:01:39 AM
Immediate Action Medical

I can into this class a complete novice and left feeling confident is all that I learned.

This is a must have class, Learning how to use the VOK to perform live saving techniques is invaluable.

The 5 B's:
Badguys /Area awareness
Bleeding
Breathing
Brain
Body

1st handle any issues/situation and keep yourself safe prior to patient intervention, call for help.

2nd Address Major blood loss via tourniquet in appropriate manner/area

3rd, Assess Patient’s breathing and address if needed via correct technique, sweeping airway clear, NPA, Tracheotomy

Learned how to identify and address Pneumothorax.

4th, Assess Patients Mental status: awareness of time and what happened, response to verbal commands by verbal or physical response, Pain induced response.

5th Scan body head to toe check bone breaks and all other medical issues to be dealt with, then bandage any required areas and re-do all 5 B’s again.

This is a serious class teaching life saving skills and knowledge to save you and others.

Thanks goes out to Doc Norman for your Expert Knowledge and Time.

Everyone should attending training of this type, applies to everything from gun shot wounds to car wrecks.
ALPHAGHOST  [Team Member]
10/23/2008 12:37:39 AM
i guess i'll add in my AAR...

"Immediate Action Medical at Tactical Response--Oct. 11/12, 2008

well, another long night, another 4+hr drive, and another weekend of the BEST training available =)

I guess i'll begin with our primary instructor for the class, Dr. Allyn Norman; simply put, Doc is an extremely knowledgable specialist and the methods on how he presents the combined information regarding human A&P, medical treatment, situational assessment, and nomenclature makes it easy for ANYONE to pick up on and understand. My thanks to Dr. Norman's teaching, explainations, attention, and help. (Actually, it was Doc's "vacation", and i, as probably all of were, are very appreciative that he took the time to teach US)

PS: if you have a medical related question, Doc is probably the best guy to ask...

Day 1: Class began in the Tactical Response Gear shop at 9am; both days of the official class remained in the shop and it incorperated extensive classroom information on medical terminology and human A&P combined with intense demonstrations and senarios.

I believe there were a total of 12 students, most of us who have never taken any kind of 1st aid/medical classes before.

As its been put so many times by so many people who have taken this class before: this class IS essential for ANYONE (gun owner or not) to take, as the knowlege you get a peek at is not only critical but essential for anyone who goes outside thier home (or even if they stay in)

I did not take all the notes presented in class, but i had over 7 full, front and back notebook pages of the material presented...its a LOT

General aspects learned:

triage

5 Bs (badguys, bleeding, breathing, brain, body)--assess all, recognize what to do, do it

EACH of these "Bs" were disected and throughly examined to get a broad, yet specific goal orientated, understanding of how each effects our responses to immediate medical

tourniquets ARE critical--keep one on hand, keep many more around; VOK kits are simple, compact, and nothing in it is "non-essential"--keep them around too
if its bad enough that a band-aid aint going to fix it, then having a VOK kit is probably very necessary

how and when to apply each of the most critical tools in the VOK kit were shown/demonstrated

if i remember correctly, our 1st hands on demo was how to apply a TQ on the extremities, both to partners and to one-self

TQs are critical to extremities wounds that involved ruptured arteries/massive bleeding

Deep packing, deep pressure (DPDP) is another critical tool we learned on how to adminster if a TQ is not admissable or if not needed (ex: non-arterial bleed); packing the wound is essential in keeping the most pressure to stop bleeding

H-bandaging and its multi-pupose/applications were demonstrated, including its priceless utility for neck wounds

remember though: stop the bleeding (TQ), and unless its been DPDP, bandaging is simply "gift wrapping"

next, NPAs (nasal clearing) were adminstered; they hurt...and some gag, and others dont

We did do a couple role-playing scenes to get an understanding of how things may play out; each player and his/her action were critiqued and examined by everyone else so everyone could learn

we ended class of day 1 at about 5pm; spent time again at the Yeager home/team room--My thanks again to the Yeagers for thier hospitality!
ate at the mex restaruant later that night

Day 2: we continued were we left off with the lectures and furthered our stress responeses by undergoing numerous role-playing medical/tactical senarios

our main focus on the lecture this day was on breathing and how to apply pressure relief within a ventalated lung area; thoraxic presssure=bad....seal it, and air it out ASAP

our next emphasis was on how to do a full examination in the field--i.e: how to cut clothing off fast to get a fast assessment

moreover, we went over other, less 'tactical' medical administrations, including basic CPR and how to do the proper chest compressions; car accidents/crush wounds; wounds to the abdomen/other areas not covered; how to "treat"/prep a C-spine injury; burns; eye care; and how to improve for certain situations and for missing gear

as to the role-playing senarios, we began easy (surprise self TQ application) and grew into the most complex responses--from single victims to triage treatment; from one responder to a 'team' of responders

EVERYONE did great in the demonstrations imo, and it was a great learning expiernce, even if you were just critisizing

lessons learned:
--assess all the time
--watch out for the tunnel vision
--never assume safety, even in a medical situation
--TQ, DPDP, Presurization of the chest--very imp stuff
--PRACTICE what you learn, and pass it on--it may save a life down the road
--check your gear, consider the basics 1st and always
--NPAs suck, but there are worse things

this class is WELL WORTH the $400; everyone should take this class--pass the word

again, many thanks to Dr. Norman for his extensive knowlegebase and his willingness to spread it; i probably asked a couple dozen questions, and Doc gladly answered each with a clarity that even i got

of course, without my fellow students, the learning process would not have been complete --Mr dameon (sp?), mr andy, mr bookout, ms kayla, mr chester, mr shawn, everyone else (my appologies if i forgot anyone), it was great meeting yal (again for some) and i hope to see yal in future classes

and of course, my thanks to mr james for the out-of class knowlege and comments of insight on the "other" things and for keeping things in perspective

good luck, stay safe"

EVERYONE should TAKE THIS class!!! This is one of those "life skills" class that anyone from the age of 1 to 100 should learn