Rogers Shooting School Intermediate Pistol Course
Just got back from Rogers Shooting School, Bill Rogers; Ellijay , Georgia. Took 5 day intermediate pistol course.
Outstanding. High intensity. Dont go if you never attended a normal 5 day or so intro tactical pistol course or unless you are shit hot to start. You need to know your gun, your equipment and how to shoot. Bill teaches you to do it at warp speed compared to other places.
shooting form 7-18 yards. Mostly on 8" head plates. From the holster, strong hand form the holster, weak hand and relaodign weak hand only, strong hand only etc.
You have qualification test, 125 rds. there are three passing scores, Basic, Intermediate and Advance. Or if you fail to meet a minimum of 70 for the test, you get a cerificate of attendance basically.
there were 18 in the class,; Mostly military and LE, 2 civilians.
One dude shot his way to Advance level. There were several of us who shot intermediate. I shot it the last two days so I was very happy.
I also shot the short range carbine. They provide 9mm AR platforms. Same basic course of fire with some changes to acocmodate the different weapon system.
Shot Advance on that.
The instruction was first rate. Bill is a class act and he runs a good school. His instructors are very knowledgable. there were 4 or 5 instructors every day. Very small range set up but you dont need a huge area to do what he teaches. All pneumatic driven targets. Only shot about 20 rounds on paper, all else is steel. You really have to think this course besides just shoot it.
The amazing thing (to me anyway) was how much emphasis was on weak hand. The exposures are very short. Speed is the thing. And you DO USE YOUR SIGHTS. No point shooting. Oh, they let you shoot about 10 rds to show you what it can do at very close range but for anything else no, so they dont teach it.
I shot Beretta 92FS since that is what I carry (M9) when I deploy. Used safriland 6004 SLS.
I tried to change right before I went there and started out with a Blackhawk Sherpa drop leg but after 1 day i had to switch back. Too much imprinting on me from 5 years with the 6004 to switch at that school. Not worth the speed demands .
Ammo: Shot WOLF 115 GR MIL CLassic polymer coated exclusively in both the Beretta and the 9mm carbines. 3000 rounds for 5 days. Not one FTF, not one misfire, one stove pipe but i would chalk that up to grip morte than anything probably.
I think if I shot my Glock in an open top belt rig I would have scored even better. Double action weak hand is a bitch when you have never done it. You learn to do it but a Glock is easier.
The guns in attendance were mostly Glocks, Beretta's, a few SIGs a few wide body 45 1911 types and the civies were shooting S&W M&P's.,The one M&P broke the slide stop at about 100 rds out of the box. Not impressed. The one shooter had lots of issues with it.
The food at the lodge was very good, lots of it. The lodge is spartan , hunting camp type accomodations but okay.
There was "homework" every night after dinner. Not madatory but well advised to make most of them.
Nyone want any mor einfo just let me know.
I owuld not hesitate to go back again.
we shot both OLY 9mm Carbines set up for glock mags and new Bushmaster carbon Fibre 9mm using Colt type mags. the Glock mags load easier but the system of the OLY is a Rube Goldberg deal witht eh mag catch, and bolt stop. I have a Colt 9mm AR and the Bushy works as well.
Nice, report. Thanks!
Rogers School is one of my "dream" destinations.
Do you happen to remember how long the exposure times are on the targets. or what kind of draw time you need to get the first?
shortest for a single presentation was 1.0 seconds, from the holster.
Great class, I iwll find my course test and give you more info.
Shot with Bill many many times over the years but never been to Ellijay. We have two complete Rogers Range setups at our Academy but they are both down at the moment. Bill really IS a class act and a freakin' genius to boot! The system is ammo intensive since you can do only so much with it dry-fire but to say it works as a training tool is a decided understatement. Highly recommended!
Good review. I went there a couple of years ago. I think that shooting the carbine or shotgun portions after the pistol were a little distracting (especially with "homework" still to attend).
Nice review. I attended the Rogers School a couple of years ago. I thoroughly enjoyed it and took a lot away from there. I hope to go back in the near future.
I'm a Retired Police Sergeant and I plan on attending either Rogers School or BlackWater in 2009. I previously took Advanced Tactical Handgun 2 with positive results. I'm looking to push the envelope though, and I also want to achieve the Advanced Level Certification.
Any detailed information you would be willing to share would be Greatly Appreciated!!!Specifically, how should I prepair prior to going to the school for the first time. What would you do now, that you have been there done that to help with the one handed shooting. I would be utilizing a Glock model 22 with fiber optic sights due to old eyes 47yrs old, Mad Dog Kydex Holster.
Thank you for your help.