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 .357 Sig for 9mm Major?
live-free-or-die  [Member]
1/9/2010 10:35:07 AM
For USPSA Open class has anyone tried using .357sig to make 9mm major? I was thinking about building a Glock open gun just for fun and it seems a much safer easier way to make major and have enough gas to run a comp.
Lovelessk999  [Team Member]
1/9/2010 12:19:47 PM
Are you reloading?

If you are or might be or even think the machines look "neat", there is only one choice unless you just like spending extra money and time.
live-free-or-die  [Member]
1/9/2010 12:57:32 PM
Yes I am reloading... As I would have to for 9x25, or TJ or any other 9mm major loading. The nice thing is that .357sig I can reload for the same price as .40 and brass isn't such a rare commodity.

I would love for USPSA to follow IPSC and allow .357sig as a major for Limited.
JorDanO  [Team Member]
1/10/2010 12:18:15 AM
You could use .357 SIG for Open Major. The reason you don't see any is that there is no benefit, since you can load 9mm and 38 Super to major pretty easily and have a couple more rounds extra in each mag.
Gregory_K  [Team Member]
1/10/2010 4:26:37 PM
You could, but 9mm major is much more cost effective.

Cost of once fired 9mmx19 is still cheap.

9mm gives you more rounds in the magazine.

I do not see a upside to 357 sig, for open, but hey it would be safe it is your money and it can make major.
ALASKANFIRE  [Team Member]
1/13/2010 3:00:28 AM
Johnny Lim of Limcat shoots a wildcat that is real close to 357 sig.

Apparently he built it so people would quit trying to buy his gun. I guess he would basically have to build himself a new gun every big match so he built the bastard round to scare people away and make it harder to sell

Must be nice to chase customers away. It is pretty funny watching people scrounge all his brass thinking it is 40 and then going wtf!!!
Chacal87  [Member]
6/14/2010 1:37:03 AM
The downside to .357 Sig is capacity. Part of the reason to shoot open is to stuff those 170MM mags as full as you can with ammo

Why not shoot a .38 super or .38 Super Comp (pretty much a rimless super) or 9x19 major?
DKing  [Team Member]
7/17/2010 7:15:04 PM
I've been looking at 357 sig for other reasons. When all the ammo dried up there was always 357 sig on the shelves at walmart. The ability to add another caliber for only a $125 investment in a barrel is extremely tempting.
uscbigdawg1  [Member]
7/17/2010 8:15:54 PM
It's a valid option and the mag capacity argument is a yarn given on a stage with more than say 12 rounds will have a spot for a reload. Burkett's video clearly showed that a properly executed reload is a zero time loss on the clock (and not just because he can reload stupid fast).

In the end, brass is the key and if you are able to have a cheap/affordable/comparably priced source of brass, then go for it. However, factory ammo probably doesn't make major, but with the lowered power factor to 165 it might. My issue is feeding reliability of a bottle neck case into a 1911. Back in the 90's only a couple of guys were running the hot 9x25. It was a super flat shooting round and worked, but to me, with reliability being THE #1 priority of our platforms, a straight-walled case is really the only way to go especially with regards to increasing reliability. Johnny Lim of Limcat Custom shoots a bottle neck pistol round and it works but again, when doing everything to remove chance of malfunctions, this would be a potential for a big one IMHO. It's a slight taper, but a taper nonetheless.

9mm brass is super cheap and frankly free at just about any public range. I'm considering launching a brass prep business for folks as I've got a Case-Pro and have dies for 9mm, 40 and 38 Super and can make the most Glock'ed brass better than new in seconds. That said, when in doubt or in question on a caliber, just look at what the Top 16 shoot. There's a reason why when all is said and done, 38 Supercomp, 38 Super and 9mm are still the top calibers of choice. If looking for an alternate caliber of all of these, 40 S&W would be my personal choice due to brass availability, reliability and tons of available load data.

Hope that helped.

Rich