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Target papers are hard to haul around, what are you folks using to keep them from damage?
5/23/2011 1:52:07 PM
When the club's Conex boxes are locked, I need to have my own target paper with me to be sure I have something to shoot at....
The boxes they came in were sort of jury rigged at best. This makes it difficult to protect the edges from damage and such.
I was at several art stores and I guess they don't carry as many large print holders as they did back in the lofting days...
How do you guys haul your target papers around? I was thinking about just cutting up some plastic drain pipe for each size.
Is there a better solution for target papers to stay portable in the truck bed?
The boxes they came in were sort of jury rigged at best. This makes it difficult to protect the edges from damage and such.
I was at several art stores and I guess they don't carry as many large print holders as they did back in the lofting days...
How do you guys haul your target papers around? I was thinking about just cutting up some plastic drain pipe for each size.
Is there a better solution for target papers to stay portable in the truck bed?
5/23/2011 2:20:26 PM
what about getting two pieces of foam core poster/presentation board, use some duct tape to make a "hinge" on one end and then put the targets between them like a binder?
J-
J-
5/23/2011 2:48:03 PM
I sandwich my 81/2 X 11 targets between two sheets of thin, but stiff cardboard. Hold them together by spring steel clips on each side.
5/23/2011 3:00:57 PM
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
5/23/2011 4:39:56 PM
Originally Posted By jjc155:
what about getting two pieces of foam core poster/presentation board, use some duct tape to make a "hinge" on one end and then put the targets between them like a binder?
J-
what about getting two pieces of foam core poster/presentation board, use some duct tape to make a "hinge" on one end and then put the targets between them like a binder?
J-
Maybe the same concept with something tougher than foam core could work. I have recently seen folks making the targets out of foam core outright.
They don't work as well as one would think and they don't hold up in the trucks when the edges get dented. At least they aren't Marine proof.
I was hoping to find something truck-bed-proof at the art stores and came up empty.
I was thinking along your lines, or of cutting some plastic drain pipe.
Those things are very clumsy to haul around without damage and to be able to get one out in short order.
With your idea, you can get one out easy, but I will be hard pressed to figure out the details that work while the stack goes from full to empty. I suppose I could just leave about 3/4 of the shipment at home and replenish.
That could make the hinge joint easy to design. With the pipe, you end up pulling the whole load out to unroll one and then re-roll the batch and stuff it back in.
Maybe I will just cut down the batch size, carry less, and use the pipe. It will still be a pain but easier to protect.
5/23/2011 4:42:40 PM
Originally Posted By criley:
I sandwich my 81/2 X 11 targets between two sheets of thin, but stiff cardboard. Hold them together by spring steel clips on each side.
I sandwich my 81/2 X 11 targets between two sheets of thin, but stiff cardboard. Hold them together by spring steel clips on each side.
Yes. However, the MR target isn't 8.5X11..... I was hauling full sheets and repair centers, they are huge compared to household stationary.
But thanks for the consideration. Sometimes I come here and get an instant education. With so much experience in this forum it is worth looking and asking.
Cheers.
5/23/2011 4:49:16 PM
Originally Posted By fcernese:
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
Yup. I have done many fly rod and fishing rod carriers, I guess I will add to that batch.....
BTW, they looked at me funny at the hardware store when I got the toughest schedule pipe I can find just to mail a rod.
I showed them the condition of one I sent to Sage for a round trip and now they understand. It looked like it had been through pure hell... but my rod case had enough padding inside to come out fine.
The gouges in the PVC were on the oder of 3/4" deep. Like something that would be hard to do if you had all the tools in your garage. How that happens in transportation is anybody's guess.
Now they start looking for the thick stuff when they see me coming....
Now, off to go buy some more pipe.
Cheers.
5/23/2011 7:44:51 PM
Originally Posted By RegionRat:
Maybe the same concept with something tougher than foam core could work. I have recently seen folks making the targets out of foam core outright.
They don't work as well as one would think and they don't hold up in the trucks when the edges get dented. At least they aren't Marine proof.
I was hoping to find something truck-bed-proof at the art stores and came up empty.
I was thinking along your lines, or of cutting some plastic drain pipe.
Those things are very clumsy to haul around without damage and to be able to get one out in short order.
With your idea, you can get one out easy, but I will be hard pressed to figure out the details that work while the stack goes from full to empty. I suppose I could just leave about 3/4 of the shipment at home and replenish.
That could make the hinge joint easy to design. With the pipe, you end up pulling the whole load out to unroll one and then re-roll the batch and stuff it back in.
Maybe I will just cut down the batch size, carry less, and use the pipe. It will still be a pain but easier to protect.
Originally Posted By jjc155:
what about getting two pieces of foam core poster/presentation board, use some duct tape to make a "hinge" on one end and then put the targets between them like a binder?
J-
what about getting two pieces of foam core poster/presentation board, use some duct tape to make a "hinge" on one end and then put the targets between them like a binder?
J-
Maybe the same concept with something tougher than foam core could work. I have recently seen folks making the targets out of foam core outright.
They don't work as well as one would think and they don't hold up in the trucks when the edges get dented. At least they aren't Marine proof.
I was hoping to find something truck-bed-proof at the art stores and came up empty.
I was thinking along your lines, or of cutting some plastic drain pipe.
Those things are very clumsy to haul around without damage and to be able to get one out in short order.
With your idea, you can get one out easy, but I will be hard pressed to figure out the details that work while the stack goes from full to empty. I suppose I could just leave about 3/4 of the shipment at home and replenish.
That could make the hinge joint easy to design. With the pipe, you end up pulling the whole load out to unroll one and then re-roll the batch and stuff it back in.
Maybe I will just cut down the batch size, carry less, and use the pipe. It will still be a pain but easier to protect.
what about some 1/4inch luan plywood then.
J-
5/23/2011 9:10:10 PM
I just buy the repair centers for practice purposes.
5/24/2011 1:25:41 AM
Originally Posted By RegionRat:
Yes. However, the MR target isn't 8.5X11..... I was hauling full sheets and repair centers, they are huge compared to household stationary.
But thanks for the consideration. Sometimes I come here and get an instant education. With so much experience in this forum it is worth looking and asking.
Cheers.
Originally Posted By criley:
I sandwich my 81/2 X 11 targets between two sheets of thin, but stiff cardboard. Hold them together by spring steel clips on each side.
I sandwich my 81/2 X 11 targets between two sheets of thin, but stiff cardboard. Hold them together by spring steel clips on each side.
Yes. However, the MR target isn't 8.5X11..... I was hauling full sheets and repair centers, they are huge compared to household stationary.
But thanks for the consideration. Sometimes I come here and get an instant education. With so much experience in this forum it is worth looking and asking.
Cheers.
Perhaps you could use regular cardboard then - find a large box and cut it to the size you need. Might need to double up on the spring clips on each side....
5/24/2011 3:11:13 AM
I too have been doing the "cardboard sandwich" thing with mine-that pvc pipe idea sounds like just the ticket...
5/24/2011 6:24:18 PM
I use repair centers....and shoot them so fast they dont tear
(except for those tiny holes in the Xring)
(except for those tiny holes in the Xring)5/24/2011 10:05:50 PM
Originally Posted By fcernese:
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
+1
5/25/2011 9:56:09 AM
Go to a professional artist supply store, not one of the artist/frame shops or the artist/hobby/craft shop.
Get an artist's portfolio. They come in a wide variety of sizes from 8x10 to 30x42.
The cheap ones are the cardstock "banker's" portfolios.
The mid-range is thick carboard (built like a folder) with vinyl outside laminate and a coated fabric spine, interior flaps to secure contents, and string ties on three sides.
High-end is thick vinyl coated fabric with a full zipper and a carry handle, usually 2-3" deep so you can carry lots of artwork (or targets).
The mid-range would be perfect for targets. But if I used one, I would not put it in the bed of my truck. At anything over 40mph, the wind would lift it right out and deliver it to the guy driving behind me.
Buy one online and save gas: Blick/Portfolios.
Midway (and most other shooting suppliers) also sell these things that look a lot like portfolios, but they call them "target holders".
Get an artist's portfolio. They come in a wide variety of sizes from 8x10 to 30x42.
The cheap ones are the cardstock "banker's" portfolios.
The mid-range is thick carboard (built like a folder) with vinyl outside laminate and a coated fabric spine, interior flaps to secure contents, and string ties on three sides.
High-end is thick vinyl coated fabric with a full zipper and a carry handle, usually 2-3" deep so you can carry lots of artwork (or targets).
The mid-range would be perfect for targets. But if I used one, I would not put it in the bed of my truck. At anything over 40mph, the wind would lift it right out and deliver it to the guy driving behind me.
Buy one online and save gas: Blick/Portfolios.
Midway (and most other shooting suppliers) also sell these things that look a lot like portfolios, but they call them "target holders".
5/25/2011 11:36:09 AM
Originally Posted By jcs1:
I just buy the repair centers for practice purposes.
I just buy the repair centers for practice purposes.
Sir, FWIW I do the same. I have my 200/300 yd repair centers in the cardboard box that my shooting coat was shipped in from Creedmoor Sports. I keep all my other target paraphenalia such as staplers, extra staples, etc in the same box. I only keep the box in the bed of my truck on my way to and from the range. The box has held up well going on four years now! HTH, 7zero1 out.
5/25/2011 12:20:14 PM
I keep mine rolled up in a cardboard tube out of a roll of carpet.
Doesn't roll them up too tight.
Doesn't roll them up too tight.
6/27/2011 2:46:15 PM
I don't know the exact dimensions, but I use a plastic storage container. Its deep enough to hold several dozen centers, a can of spray glue, pasters, etc., and wide enough the centers only have to be folded in half like they come out of the box.
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6/27/2011 4:11:58 PM
I take a photo, some notes of the shooting condition then I save everything on the PC with On Target (free)
The very best targets go to my father's in a frame
The very best targets go to my father's in a frame
6/27/2011 4:13:58 PM
I put them in the pouch on the back of the drivers seat of my truck...
6/27/2011 9:10:04 PM
Originally Posted By Prairie_Dog:
I put them in the pouch on the back of the drivers seat of my truck...
I put them in the pouch on the back of the drivers seat of my truck...
Me too
7/11/2011 1:07:18 AM
It can be a hassle. Regulation targets are BIG. Here's how I do it.
The majority of my shooting I do at 100 yards and just use 8.5X11 reduced highpower targets. I organize these into pocket/sleeves and then keep them nominally in one of those cotton grocery sacks, along with a staple gun. For most of my shooting that's my grab and go target set up. I usually keep a pen and some stickers in there too for repairs, though the paper is so cheap, I usually just replace rather then repair.
For the regulation size targets, and repair centers, I use poster tubes. I have about fifty each of: 200 yard full sized targets. 300 yard repair centers, and 600 yard-reduced-to300 targets. In the house, I keep them stored laid flat under a bed. That way they don't curl/wrinkle up from long term storage. I then have 3 poster tubes, 1 dedicated to each size, and in each tube I keep about 2-6 of the appropriate sized target. The only one that's a challenge is the 200 yard, because it's a few inches longer than a poster tube. So they stick out a little bit, but not a big deal. The tubes themselves are your standard cardboard shipping tubes you use for shipping a poster. They're surprisingly tough, and will take a beating. Any shipping store will have them. Mostly I use them because they work and are free (wife gets them from work when they're done with them).
I have seen people with flat wooden boxes for storing and transporting targets. Unless you're doing this as support for club activities, this is bulky and not the way I'd go for individual usage.
The majority of my shooting I do at 100 yards and just use 8.5X11 reduced highpower targets. I organize these into pocket/sleeves and then keep them nominally in one of those cotton grocery sacks, along with a staple gun. For most of my shooting that's my grab and go target set up. I usually keep a pen and some stickers in there too for repairs, though the paper is so cheap, I usually just replace rather then repair.
For the regulation size targets, and repair centers, I use poster tubes. I have about fifty each of: 200 yard full sized targets. 300 yard repair centers, and 600 yard-reduced-to300 targets. In the house, I keep them stored laid flat under a bed. That way they don't curl/wrinkle up from long term storage. I then have 3 poster tubes, 1 dedicated to each size, and in each tube I keep about 2-6 of the appropriate sized target. The only one that's a challenge is the 200 yard, because it's a few inches longer than a poster tube. So they stick out a little bit, but not a big deal. The tubes themselves are your standard cardboard shipping tubes you use for shipping a poster. They're surprisingly tough, and will take a beating. Any shipping store will have them. Mostly I use them because they work and are free (wife gets them from work when they're done with them).
I have seen people with flat wooden boxes for storing and transporting targets. Unless you're doing this as support for club activities, this is bulky and not the way I'd go for individual usage.
7/13/2011 8:52:30 AM
Originally Posted By fcernese:
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
4" PVC pipe. unglued caps at both ends.
^^^ THIS ^^^
