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50 cal NM
1/15/2011 2:32:46 AM
1/15/2011 4:52:14 AM
Mark Westrom should know better. He is/was a HP shooter.
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1/15/2011 7:57:58 PM
From the NRA High Power Rulebook (http://www.nrahq.org/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf ) Chapter 3 ("Equipment & Ammunition"):
Rule 3.2 Any Rifle - A rifle with no restrictions on sights or accessories including Schuetzen type buttplates and palm rests except that it must be safe to competitors and range personnel. Ammunition will be restricted to no larger than .35 caliber. (Attention is directed to safety fan limitations of various ranges. Individual ranges may further restrict ammunition.) (emphasis mine - Asa) The provisions or Rule 3.16.1 apply to this definition.
Rule 3.1 Service Rifle: Limited to 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO, and 30-06. And civilian equivalent calibers.
Rule 3.3 Match Rifle: Must have a 5 round magazine.
Rule 3.3.1 US Palma Rifle. Limited to .308 and .223 (and military equivalent calibers).
Rule 3.3.2 NRA Any Sight Match Rifle/Tactical Rifle. Limited to .35 caliber and below.
Rule 3.4 Reduced Capacity Magazines. Must be detachable.
Rule 3.14 Palm rests. Doesn't apply for this rifle.
Rule 3.16.1 Compensators and Muzzle Brakes - The use of compensators or muzzle brakes is prohibited. (Emphasis mine - Asa) An extension tube that has been installed on the muzzle of a rifle to extend the sight radius shall not be considered a “muzzle brake”. The extension tube must have an interior diameter of .5 inches or greater and may have 1/4” x 1” slots cut at 12 and 6 o’clock to remove cleaning patches. Threaded holes along the top of this tube for the installation of sight bases will be allowed.
3.17 Ammunition - No bullet diameter larger than .308 inch (7.62mm) will be used for NRA High Power Rifle competition except for rifles used under Rule 3.2. (Emphasis mine - Asa)
Sooooo, here's the summary of our .50 BMG rifle. It is NOT
Last, but not least...
This rifle is not allowed in NRA competition due to the installation of a muzzle brake.
End of discussion.
Rule 3.2 Any Rifle - A rifle with no restrictions on sights or accessories including Schuetzen type buttplates and palm rests except that it must be safe to competitors and range personnel. Ammunition will be restricted to no larger than .35 caliber. (Attention is directed to safety fan limitations of various ranges. Individual ranges may further restrict ammunition.) (emphasis mine - Asa) The provisions or Rule 3.16.1 apply to this definition.
(a) See Rule 3.4 and 3.14.
(b) Any rifle not meeting eligibility requirements of 3.1, .3.3., 3.3.1 or 3.3.2 is considered to be an Any Rifle.
(b) Any rifle not meeting eligibility requirements of 3.1, .3.3., 3.3.1 or 3.3.2 is considered to be an Any Rifle.
Rule 3.1 Service Rifle: Limited to 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO, and 30-06. And civilian equivalent calibers.
Rule 3.3 Match Rifle: Must have a 5 round magazine.
Rule 3.3.1 US Palma Rifle. Limited to .308 and .223 (and military equivalent calibers).
Rule 3.3.2 NRA Any Sight Match Rifle/Tactical Rifle. Limited to .35 caliber and below.
Rule 3.4 Reduced Capacity Magazines. Must be detachable.
Rule 3.14 Palm rests. Doesn't apply for this rifle.
Rule 3.16.1 Compensators and Muzzle Brakes - The use of compensators or muzzle brakes is prohibited. (Emphasis mine - Asa) An extension tube that has been installed on the muzzle of a rifle to extend the sight radius shall not be considered a “muzzle brake”. The extension tube must have an interior diameter of .5 inches or greater and may have 1/4” x 1” slots cut at 12 and 6 o’clock to remove cleaning patches. Threaded holes along the top of this tube for the installation of sight bases will be allowed.
(a) Sound suppressors are not authorized for use in high power competition.
3.17 Ammunition - No bullet diameter larger than .308 inch (7.62mm) will be used for NRA High Power Rifle competition except for rifles used under Rule 3.2. (Emphasis mine - Asa)
(a) Service - Ammunition manufactured for or by the Government and issued for use in service arms. The use of armor piercing ammunition may be prohibited by local range or match regulations. Use of tracer or incendiary ammunition is prohibited.
(b) Any - Ammunition of any description that may be fired without danger to competitors or range personnel.
Tracer or incendiary ammunition is prohibited. The use of armor piercing or any other type ammunition may be prohibited by local range or match regulations. Any ammunition that repeatedly blows primers or splits cases will be ruled defective or unsafe, and will be removed from the firing line.
(b) Any - Ammunition of any description that may be fired without danger to competitors or range personnel.
Tracer or incendiary ammunition is prohibited. The use of armor piercing or any other type ammunition may be prohibited by local range or match regulations. Any ammunition that repeatedly blows primers or splits cases will be ruled defective or unsafe, and will be removed from the firing line.
Sooooo, here's the summary of our .50 BMG rifle. It is NOT
- An "Any rifle. Bore diameter too large.
- A Service Rifle. Wrong caliber.
- A Match Rifle. Caliber too large, no magazine.
- A US Palma Rifle. Wrong caliber.
- An NRA Any Sight Match Rifle/Tactical Rifle. Bore diameter too large.
Last, but not least...
This rifle is not allowed in NRA competition due to the installation of a muzzle brake.
End of discussion.
1/15/2011 10:32:58 PM
I know they are a site sponsor but this marketing term, "National Match" has gotten out of whack...don't you think? I would be laughing with tears if someone showed up with a 50 cal "NM" and expected to shoot in a NRA or CMP match.
Imagine shooting standing then a loud BOOM and with a blast like a the guy sitting on the couch in a Memorex commercial.
Imagine shooting standing then a loud BOOM and with a blast like a the guy sitting on the couch in a Memorex commercial.
1/18/2011 9:51:16 PM
50 Cal NM is a meaningless term for the reasons outlined above. No National Matches exist for such a weapon. Not in this nation anyway.
1/21/2011 9:54:11 PM
Yes it exists. FCSA National Match. http://www.fcsa.org/wwwroot/visitors/wcwhittington.php
AR 50's are common at matches and good shooters too. The "Match" name also is what we call the chamber style requiring the necks to be turned. A standard 50 bmg will not fit into a 50 "Match" chamber. Sorry your panties are all knotted up.
AR 50's are common at matches and good shooters too. The "Match" name also is what we call the chamber style requiring the necks to be turned. A standard 50 bmg will not fit into a 50 "Match" chamber. Sorry your panties are all knotted up.
1/22/2011 4:42:21 PM
Originally Posted By stinkyfeet:
Yes it exists. FCSA National Match. http://www.fcsa.org/wwwroot/visitors/wcwhittington.php
AR 50's are common at matches and good shooters too. The "Match" name also is what we call the chamber style requiring the necks to be turned. A standard 50 bmg will not fit into a 50 "Match" chamber. Sorry your panties are all knotted up.
Yes it exists. FCSA National Match. http://www.fcsa.org/wwwroot/visitors/wcwhittington.php
AR 50's are common at matches and good shooters too. The "Match" name also is what we call the chamber style requiring the necks to be turned. A standard 50 bmg will not fit into a 50 "Match" chamber. Sorry your panties are all knotted up.
"National Match" refers to something specific and it's not just venue nor use.
1/22/2011 10:41:09 PM
Well what do you know? Looks like fun. Sort of like benchrest with really big guns? How big is the field for the "National Match"? I couldn't find any results.
1/25/2011 12:00:20 PM
There are 40- 50 shooters in each of four classes at the "National Match". Three classes are shot from the bench and hunter is prone bipod. The skills I learned from shooting NRA Highpower ( except standing 
) have helped me win a regional match in the hunter class.
) have helped me win a regional match in the hunter class.1/25/2011 5:56:34 PM
The name of the match in that link is "FCSA National Championship" not "FCSA National Match."
Besides National Match, when talking about equipment denotes the set of accurizing standards set forth in the Army manual.
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Besides National Match, when talking about equipment denotes the set of accurizing standards set forth in the Army manual.
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