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 What triggers are you guys using on your 3 gun AR rifles?
HermanSnerd  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 10:37:38 AM
Single stage or two stage?

What pull weight?

What brand?

Anyone having success with the 15 minute trigger job and saving alot of money?
15 miunte practical trigger job by AFreeMan

I am working on my ideal AR upper design for 3 gun and have it all
figured out except for what trigger I will use.

uscbigdawg1  [Member]
12/10/2010 10:50:50 AM
JP.

Rich
strat81  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 11:52:27 AM
Geissele SSA.

Two stage, advertised as 4.5 pounds total, non adjustable, reputed to be incredibly reliable.
aimforthemedic  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 1:46:29 PM
Timney
3-gun  [Member]
12/10/2010 2:14:30 PM
Geissele DMR
Terrato  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 2:23:46 PM
RRA 2-stage. Nice to have for longer-distance precision shooting. I have tested it vs. a standard AR trigger with a shot timer, with no noticeable time difference on close targets. YMMV.
HermanSnerd  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 2:32:40 PM
I would think that a single stage trigger would be better
for 3 gun than a two stage.

Interesting that several of you are using two stage triggers.

I have a Rock River 2 stage trigger that is great for bench work,
but I am thinking that the long travel of the first stage would be
slower when trying to get off two shots quickly.


gosebubbe  [Member]
12/10/2010 2:56:28 PM
Single stage JP triggers in all mine.
TruePunisher  [Member]
12/10/2010 5:52:26 PM

Originally Posted By gosebubbe:
Single stage JP triggers in all mine.

Likewise.
Assaulter  [Member]
12/10/2010 6:54:41 PM
I run a Chip McCormick. No complaints.
StealthyBlagga  [Member]
12/10/2010 9:26:38 PM
JP across the board... single stage FTW
Cold  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 9:59:48 PM

Originally Posted By 3-gun:
Geissele DMR

Same here.
Derek45  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 10:41:53 PM
Originally Posted By StealthyBlagga:
JP across the board... single stage FTW


+1

gotigers  [Team Member]
12/10/2010 10:51:22 PM
what weights are your triggers?

I have a stock S&W with JP yellow springs pulling +/- 4.5lbs. For my level of 3 gun it is just fine.
AZ3GUNNER  [Member]
12/11/2010 12:55:14 AM
Originally Posted By Cold:

Originally Posted By 3-gun:
Geissele DMR

Same here.


Ditto. I don't think the 2 stage slows me down in any way. In fact, I don't even realize its a 2 stage once the clock goes off. I have it set to 3 lbs but it feels less.
unclemoak  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 2:25:20 AM

Originally Posted By strat81:
Geissele SSA.

Two stage, advertised as 4.5 pounds total, non adjustable, reputed to be incredibly reliable.


GorillaTactical  [Member]
12/11/2010 2:44:24 AM
You might not realize your using a 2 stage when your shooting, but if you pulled a single stage in the same scenario, you'd feel a huge difference....Chip Mc. Single Stage here.....running at +/- 3 lbs

To be honest, all of the high end triggers work really well (JP, Chip, Timney, Gieselle, AR Gold)
nickforney  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 5:50:06 AM
I have a geissele SSA on my noveske and have a SSA-E in a pack I just got will be putting it on another rifle. Wish I had waited a bit longer as the new S3G triggers just came out and would like to have tried out that one. Good clean breaks on the SSA have used others but feel like the geisseles are sturdy as hell. I use my rifles for many things and one thing I don't want is a fancy trigger that could break. It is all prefrence I am sure that there are other great companies that others swear on but I trust geissele and will continue buying from them.
slashsplat  [Team Member]
12/11/2010 11:45:36 AM
AR-Gold FTMFW. Technically 2 stage, but disappears when you go to pull it. 4.5#+ so all my triggers are NRA/CMP match compatible.

I have used JP and Geisselle, and like these the best BY FAR.

Bill Springfield trigger jobs are great value for the $$.
Gamma762  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 12:35:10 AM
Stock trigger, cleaned up and polished, with takeup preset screw.

Fine abrasive stone, dremel buffing wheel and rouge, one set screw and allen wrench, and loctite from the hardware store.
rust4brains  [Member]
12/12/2010 7:57:51 AM
I'm a noob to it. But I am shooting a Bill Springfield 3 lb.
R4B
owlless  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 8:21:27 AM
Chip Mc Single stage. Weight is probably abou 3-4 lbs.
Gregory_K  [Team Member]
12/12/2010 6:48:28 PM
Single stage JP triggers, Standard AR-15 springs. Supplied Yellow springs get tossed in the trash.
SSgt82-02  [Member]
12/12/2010 9:27:53 PM
Bushmaster stock trigger parts with JP yellow spring set. Surfaces polished with Fllitz and a Dremal polishing wheel.
ManDown  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 8:45:57 AM
Geissele Super Dynamic 3-gun Trigger...really really nice trigger. Short single stage, clean break with short reset makes puttting rounds down range a lot faster. Really happy with mine and midway has them on sale for $209.
Couch-Commando  [Team Member]
12/13/2010 11:00:43 PM
I shoot my stock colt in 3-gun, but the 4.5 lbs giessele service rifle trigger feels so light that when pulling it fast, it feels like a single stage. I'd imagine the DMR would be even better.
Forgetfull  [Team Member]
12/14/2010 12:01:09 AM

Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
I would think that a single stage trigger would be better
for 3 gun than a two stage.

Interesting that several of you are using two stage triggers.

I have a Rock River 2 stage trigger that is great for bench work,
but I am thinking that the long travel of the first stage would be
slower when trying to get off two shots quickly.



I'm doing 0.13 sec splits with a RRA 2-stage FWIW.
uscbigdawg1  [Member]
12/14/2010 11:49:23 AM
Voigt (i.e. multiple USPSA National and multiple IMGA 3-Gun Champion) back in the day ran a 2 stage. Hell he may still run one. Doesn't appear to hurt him much.

Like the previous poster, you CAN rip a 2-stage quite well when you need to.

Rich
tojan19  [Team Member]
12/15/2010 6:18:35 AM
I'm happy so far with my Bill Springfield worked single stage. Crisp and quick.
HermanSnerd  [Team Member]
12/15/2010 9:51:06 AM
I ordered some 3 and 1/2 lb. springs from JP and I am gonna
use some flitz and the dremel polisher and see how much I can improve my
factory trigger.



smoothdraw  [Member]
12/15/2010 12:43:03 PM
I now use Geiselle S3G (Super 3 Gun). Hybrid 2 stage. Check out the dynamic versions also with flat bow. I haven't tried it yet but others like them a lot.
boomfab  [Team Member]
12/17/2010 3:35:08 PM
The notion that two stage triggers are slow is a myth.

I get 0.12 splits with 2 stage Geisseles no problem.
kyreb  [Team Member]
12/17/2010 10:11:47 PM
JP trigger with low mass hammer. Estimated pull at 2.5 lbs. Love it.
alemonkey  [Member]
12/17/2010 10:36:37 PM
Stock Stag Arms LPK

Honestly, for 3 gun purposes I don't notice the difference. It's not as nice as a high end trigger when I'm punching paper at the range, but when I'm running & gunning it's just fine for me. And this is coming from a guy who raves over the superb < .5lb double set trigger on his Pedersoli 1874Sharps. Now THAT is a trigger . It's like it's wired directly to your brain.
zzzspacezzz  [Team Member]
12/26/2010 4:02:36 PM
Originally Posted By alemonkey:
Stock Stag Arms LPKK

Honestly, for 3 gun purposes I don't notice the difference. It's not as nice as a high end trigger when I'm punching paper at the range, but when I'm running & gunning it's just fine for me. And this is coming from a guy who raves over the superb < .5lb double set trigger on his Pedersoli 1874Sharps. Now THAT is a trigger . It's like it's wired directly to your brain.



I'm with you there. I think the stock stag trigger is the best out-of-the-box trigger made.
I have them on both my ar's. And, the more I use it, the better it gets.
t-payne  [Member]
12/27/2010 9:29:36 AM
Ar Gold set at about 1.5#. Haven't felt a better trigger yet.
Another-Bill  [Team Member]
1/2/2011 6:55:40 PM
I have two of the JP trigger/hammer/spring single stage sets.

One is at 2.5 and the other is at 2.75 pounds.

The first one was bought around 1992-94 or so. I'm guessing based on the house I was in at he time and the rifle it was in at the time.

First it was in a Colt HBAR (back before the flat tops) and next I put it in a Bushy (flat top).
I could only guess the round count based on the cases of ammo I bought through the years but suffice to say the trigger
has seen a shit load of rounds through it and today it is still wonderful at 2.75 pounds crisp.

So much for the "match triggers aren't tough enough" bit.





Bill
aaronfor10  [Team Member]
1/2/2011 8:36:15 PM
Originally Posted By ManDown:
Geissele Super Dynamic 3-gun Trigger...really really nice trigger. Short single stage, clean break with short reset makes puttting rounds down range a lot faster. Really happy with mine and midway has them on sale for $209.


This is what I'm sporting now and I'm loving it. Light and crisp and I'm loving the flat trigger surface. I've had the ssa and the knights 2 stage and this is my favorite so far.
RTBA-8  [Team Member]
1/14/2011 3:21:30 PM
Originally Posted By aaronfor10:
Originally Posted By ManDown:
Geissele Super Dynamic 3-gun Trigger...really really nice trigger. Short single stage, clean break with short reset makes puttting rounds down range a lot faster. Really happy with mine and midway has them on sale for $209.


This is what I'm sporting now and I'm loving it. Light and crisp and I'm loving the flat trigger surface. I've had the ssa and the knights 2 stage and this is my favorite so far.


I just put one of these in my rifle and really like it.
gotigers  [Team Member]
1/17/2011 2:24:21 PM
Originally Posted By rust4brains:
I'm a noob to it. But I am shooting a Bill Springfield 3 lb.
R4B


How are the Bill Springfield triggers? creep, travel, reset, etc?

edit:

Originally Posted By tojan19:
I'm happy so far with my Bill Springfield worked single stage. Crisp and quick.


I guess it is worth the $75 to try it.

APDSWAT  [Team Member]
1/18/2011 9:44:22 PM
LMT 2 stage
jestevens3  [Member]
1/18/2011 10:15:12 PM
Geissele SD-3G. 3-4 pounds. Breaks like a glass rod. Best I have found.
ARinKCMO  [Team Member]
1/19/2011 6:54:54 AM
I have a two stage in my Bushmaster Varminter, love it. My other AR just has the standard trigger in it, and I was planning on putting in a RRA two stage in it as I am building it into my dedicated 3 Gun rifle. I'm far to slow to be able to give advice on whether or not it is faster or slower, but I can say that when taking long 300 yards shots, I definitely prefer the two stage trigger over the standard. Close up stuff I don't think it will matter as much.
Pro2AinPA  [Member]
1/21/2011 10:45:59 AM
Timney 3 lb.
bowhuntr09  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 11:03:39 AM
Originally Posted By ManDown:
Geissele Super Dynamic 3-gun Trigger...really really nice trigger. Short single stage, clean break with short reset makes puttting rounds down range a lot faster. Really happy with mine and midway has them on sale for $209.


Currently on sale for $189, just installed mine last night.
christof  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 7:26:17 PM
im looking at upgrading and at first wanted a single stage to keep it simple and more reliable...is there any merit to this theory? im not shooting benchrest so i dont "need" an ultra light 2 stage,
Gamma762  [Team Member]
1/21/2011 7:49:24 PM
Originally Posted By christof:
im looking at upgrading and at first wanted a single stage to keep it simple and more reliable...is there any merit to this theory? im not shooting benchrest so i dont "need" an ultra light 2 stage,

I doubt many "benchrest" shooters are shooting a two stage trigger.

It's a common misconception that somehow "two stage" is a precision trigger, when that's not the case at all. Two stage triggers are required for some kinds of matches (CMP/NRA service rifle IIRC) but otherwise would be uncommon in the precision shooting disciplines.
Bishop3  [Member]
2/20/2011 11:29:57 PM
Geissele SSA

Came stock with the LWRC M6A3 DMR.

Fast and beats a standard trigger by far. I like it, but I'm inclined to try out the new Geissele S3G since it is a single stage and the claim they are fast.
MTNmyMag  [Team Member]
2/20/2011 11:45:04 PM
How many rounds do you guys have on these after market triggers?
Gregory_K  [Team Member]
2/21/2011 7:12:30 AM
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By christof:
im looking at upgrading and at first wanted a single stage to keep it simple and more reliable...is there any merit to this theory? im not shooting benchrest so i dont "need" an ultra light 2 stage,

I doubt many "benchrest" shooters are shooting a two stage trigger.

It's a common misconception that somehow "two stage" is a precision trigger, when that's not the case at all. Two stage triggers are required for some kinds of matches (CMP/NRA service rifle IIRC) but otherwise would be uncommon in the precision shooting disciplines.


No they are not, only pull weight is checked. You can use a single stage trigger, as long as it lifts the min weight you are good to go.
Gregory_K  [Team Member]
2/21/2011 7:13:50 AM
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
How many rounds do you guys have on these after market triggers?


me on my JP I have about 7,000
I know of one that has over 12,000. Two shooters shared the same rifle for years in matches.