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NYSRPA: Let Microstamping Rest in Peace
4/2/2012 5:07:37 PM
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association: Let Microstamping Rest in Peace
ALBANY, NY (04/02/2012)(readMedia)–– Putting aside the flair for the hysterical in use by pro-microstamping forces, and claims that the blocking of microstamping legislation will hinder police investigations – thus making the streets of New York more dangerous: the only response that can be offered is "here we go again"! The hype, the hysteria and the half truths role off the tongues with such fervor that we can only ask: Are the political proponents of microstamping that badly misinformed, or do they simply want to ignore the facts to shove more bogus, ill-conceived and dubious technology down the throats of New Yorkers and into law? The arguments and promises about current microstamping technology, law enforcement needs, the supporting characters and the disregard for independent research results are the same tactics used eleven years ago to foist the recently-repealed CoBIS law on the citizens of New York. Microstamping is not reliable and is easily defeated. It is supported only by the patent holder, those anti-Second Amendment forces wanting all guns out of private hands, and the politically-motivated associations who depend on the political process for their continued existence.
We have always said that this is about freedom rather than guns, and the sponsor of the microstamping legislation confirmed that on March 20, 2012 when she said "the legal gun owners of New York are going to have to give up some of their Liberties". See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZD0FT4sUbA
ALBANY, NY (04/02/2012)(readMedia)–– Putting aside the flair for the hysterical in use by pro-microstamping forces, and claims that the blocking of microstamping legislation will hinder police investigations – thus making the streets of New York more dangerous: the only response that can be offered is "here we go again"! The hype, the hysteria and the half truths role off the tongues with such fervor that we can only ask: Are the political proponents of microstamping that badly misinformed, or do they simply want to ignore the facts to shove more bogus, ill-conceived and dubious technology down the throats of New Yorkers and into law? The arguments and promises about current microstamping technology, law enforcement needs, the supporting characters and the disregard for independent research results are the same tactics used eleven years ago to foist the recently-repealed CoBIS law on the citizens of New York. Microstamping is not reliable and is easily defeated. It is supported only by the patent holder, those anti-Second Amendment forces wanting all guns out of private hands, and the politically-motivated associations who depend on the political process for their continued existence.
We have always said that this is about freedom rather than guns, and the sponsor of the microstamping legislation confirmed that on March 20, 2012 when she said "the legal gun owners of New York are going to have to give up some of their Liberties". See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZD0FT4sUbA
4/2/2012 5:43:48 PM
Despite support from some heavy political hitters, it's nice to know that NYC's head cop, Ray Kelly, has applied some logic. Kelly was quoted as saying in the article below, "The guns used to murder people (in NYC) are typically unlicensed and come from easy-to-buy states." Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/iron-pipeline-carries-guns-554042.html?cxtype=rss_news
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/iron-pipeline-carries-guns-554042.html?cxtype=rss_news
4/2/2012 6:53:59 PM
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.4/2/2012 7:09:02 PM
Kelly also wants all of his officers to have the optics backwards in-case they are ever used to lower the chance of casualty
4/2/2012 7:27:36 PM
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
4/2/2012 9:29:22 PM
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
All the City "gun crimes" are committed by the easily licensed thugs from up-state.
Truth does not matter to the politician only getting what he wants, and in this case NO ONE except his Police Force and the chosen few should have anything that shoots....or cuts, or could possibly be used to protect ones self.
4/2/2012 9:42:32 PM
good luck....microstamping will come up every year. It will not go away.
I was told this by a high ranking R senator on Saturday night,
Dems will NOT GIVE UP on microstamping.
I was told this by a high ranking R senator on Saturday night,
Dems will NOT GIVE UP on microstamping.
4/3/2012 7:46:31 AM
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
His comments about "easy to buy states" and such are not anti-microstamping. But more fuel to support Bloomie's illegal actions in other states. This way, Bloomie can excuse his illegal activities by saying he is investigating to protect NY.
Yes, a gang member will drive to Arizona, Tennessee, Texas or any other "easy to buy state" and buy a gun, drive back here just to break into somebody's home. Makes PERFECT sense to me.
4/3/2012 8:52:26 AM
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
He's a political hack and serves at the will and pleasure of Bloomberg. He will support anything Bloombutt tells him to support. When he was Mayor Dinkin's hack he fought tooth and nail against converting the NYPD to semi-auto pistols and when he lost that battle he tried to restrict mag capacity to ten rounds.
4/3/2012 8:57:39 AM
Originally Posted By guyver0313:
His comments about "easy to buy states" and such are not anti-microstamping. But more fuel to support Bloomie's illegal actions in other states. This way, Bloomie can excuse his illegal activities by saying he is investigating to protect NY.
Yes, a gang member will drive to Arizona, Tennessee, Texas or any other "easy to buy state" and buy a gun, drive back here just to break into somebody's home. Makes PERFECT sense to me.
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Originally Posted By sititunga:
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
Thankfully, we can deduce from this that the commissioner has applied some commonsense to the proposition of microstamping and its blatantly obvious pitfalls.
If it was up to Kelly the NYPD would still be using revolvers with 158 gr RN bullets. He's is one of the prime supporters of microstamping.
Then there is a big disconnect between what he has been quoted as saying. If most of the crime guns used in NYC come from out of state, as he has been quoted as saying, how can he logically believe microstamping is going to have any impact on gun crime?
His comments about "easy to buy states" and such are not anti-microstamping. But more fuel to support Bloomie's illegal actions in other states. This way, Bloomie can excuse his illegal activities by saying he is investigating to protect NY.
Yes, a gang member will drive to Arizona, Tennessee, Texas or any other "easy to buy state" and buy a gun, drive back here just to break into somebody's home. Makes PERFECT sense to me.
While this might be the case the fact most crime guns come from out of state, means that logically microstamping isn't going to have any impact on gun crime whatsoever. Kelly knows this. His support for microstamping is therefore only driven by his need to kowtow to his political paymasters.
