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 10/30 PMags or others?
Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 2:47:47 PM EST
looking for some 30rnd body Pmags blocked to 10 rounds PERMANENTLY...for use at the range.

Anyone know of a source for such a thing, or similar USGI mfg mag thats perm modified to hold ONLY 10? Whether it be via a weld, rivets, etc.
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Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 2:49:36 PM EST
oops...durr..

found somethin..

Link to 10/30 Pmags

Any other sources, preferably CHEAPER than $22ea? At that price point ill just use darn prebans with ranger floorplates.


$21....

another


Industrial Epoxy? Would this even be ok here in NY? The riveted ones seem like a safer bet

third
Iggyort  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 2:56:53 PM EST
Try here: http://www.riflegear.com/c-47-556mm-magazines.aspx


Or here: http://midwestpx.com/index.php?cPath=15&osCsid=a86kep0lovpm256vfk6fhl7dr0
RabidMonkeyPox  [Member]
3/10/2011 3:02:11 PM EST
Spikes
PattyOSullivan  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 3:15:40 PM EST
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.
bigrog0_5  [Member]
3/10/2011 3:15:59 PM EST
calegalmags.com 20.00
Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/10/2011 3:19:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"
NoZombies  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 3:14:51 AM EST
seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.
rkbar15  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 3:27:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By NoZombies:

seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.


this/ Or just buy 20 rd preban mags if you're shooting from a bench.


emsjeep  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 5:18:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"


The riflegear mags are epoxied in place...I did everything within reason to try to get one off...no dice. Its nice to have some always reliable mags around to function test and rule out mag problems from bent and deformed USGI pre-bans.
DaveM4P99  [Member]
3/11/2011 5:38:26 AM EST
Henderson Defense makes permanently blocked off Pmags...

Why not buy 20/10 blocked mags? Or do you want 30/10 mags for training purposes?
Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 5:39:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"


The riflegear mags are epoxied in place...I did everything within reason to try to get one off...no dice. Its nice to have some always reliable mags around to function test and rule out mag problems from bent and deformed USGI pre-bans.


Originally Posted By NoZombies:
seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.




emsjeep plays it pretty safe usually...and he has these blocked mags.



you guys are tough. lol
emsjeep  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 6:32:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"


The riflegear mags are epoxied in place...I did everything within reason to try to get one off...no dice. Its nice to have some always reliable mags around to function test and rule out mag problems from bent and deformed USGI pre-bans.


Originally Posted By NoZombies:
seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.




emsjeep plays it pretty safe usually...and he has these blocked mags.



you guys are tough. lol


With the mags we are at least blessed with the "readily capable of being converted to..." language that offers some measure of unreasonability to the 5 minutes and various power and hand tools it would take to manufacture the thing back to accept more than 10 rounds. As always, the call is yours. If things get to the point that we are getting picked off at the ranges for having mags that can be remanufactured and partially destroyed to hold 11 rounds, we have bigger problems. In theory all you would have to do to bump the capacity up would be to cut a slit in the side of the magazine and cut through the plastic stop. Assuming you don't cut the spring in the process you could make it 11+, but the residual plastic would still not allow you to get 30.

DaveM4P99  [Member]
3/11/2011 7:27:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"


The riflegear mags are epoxied in place...I did everything within reason to try to get one off...no dice. Its nice to have some always reliable mags around to function test and rule out mag problems from bent and deformed USGI pre-bans.


Originally Posted By NoZombies:
seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.




emsjeep plays it pretty safe usually...and he has these blocked mags.



you guys are tough. lol


With the mags we are at least blessed with the "readily capable of being converted to..." language that offers some measure of unreasonability to the 5 minutes and various power and hand tools it would take to manufacture the thing back to accept more than 10 rounds. As always, the call is yours. If things get to the point that we are getting picked off at the ranges for having mags that can be remanufactured and partially destroyed to hold 11 rounds, we have bigger problems. In theory all you would have to do to bump the capacity up would be to cut a slit in the side of the magazine and cut through the plastic stop. Assuming you don't cut the spring in the process you could make it 11+, but the residual plastic would still not allow you to get 30.



But with a block and epoxy poured in, you'd destroy the mag trying to convert it.

But then again, that's what we always thought about epoxied/pinned stocks, and pinned/welded breaks.........
emsjeep  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 8:11:27 AM EST
As I understand it, the block is a plastic spike that comes up through the middle of the spring...if you dremeled through the side of the magazine without cutting the spring you could cut the spike in half and stuff 20 or so rounds into the magazine. Its no lose pin in a stock that you can remove by hand, but, it can be done....just not "readily," probably.
NY_Shooter  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 10:49:24 AM EST
When Magpul released the 2011 catalog, there was a 10 round PMag in it, no? (An actual 10 round mag, not a 20 or 30, pinned down to 10)
DaveM4P99  [Member]
3/11/2011 11:33:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
When Magpul released the 2011 catalog, there was a 10 round PMag in it, no? (An actual 10 round mag, not a 20 or 30, pinned down to 10)


I don't see it on their website...but it is in their 2010 PDF catalog (5, 10 and 15 round pmags)...where can they be purchased? They'd be good for range use, so I don't need to wear out the feed lips of my pre-ban 30 rounders.
NY_Shooter  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 11:39:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By DaveM4P99:
Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:
When Magpul released the 2011 catalog, there was a 10 round PMag in it, no? (An actual 10 round mag, not a 20 or 30, pinned down to 10)


I don't see it on their website...but it is in their 2010 PDF catalog (5, 10 and 15 round pmags)...where can they be purchased? They'd be good for range use, so I don't need to wear out the feed lips of my pre-ban 30 rounders.


Yeah, now that you said it, it was their 2010 catalog. As for where you can buy them........I have no idea. I just knew they planned on coming out with them, and figured they would have by now.

Maybe someone should start a thread in their subforum.
gman556  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 12:07:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By Dieter122:
Originally Posted By PattyOSullivan:
Magpul makes a piece to drop in. I am sure this can be made permanent with some epoxy.


i dont trust epoxy on mags after my MSAR mags which were "blocked"


The riflegear mags are epoxied in place...I did everything within reason to try to get one off...no dice. Its nice to have some always reliable mags around to function test and rule out mag problems from bent and deformed USGI pre-bans.


Originally Posted By NoZombies:
seems like a good way to draw unwanted attention to yourself. just by ten rounders and be done with it.




emsjeep plays it pretty safe usually...and he has these blocked mags.



you guys are tough. lol


Actually, I was thinking the same thing. I am getting more and more paranoid about bringing my preban 30rd mags to the range with all the bullshit that is going on in this state, and thought that a permanently blocked 10/30 or 10/20 would be a good practice mag, no?

rkbar15  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 1:21:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:

Yeah, now that you said it, it was their 2010 catalog. As for where you can buy them........I have no idea. I just knew they planned on coming out with them, and figured they would have by now.

Maybe someone should start a thread in their subforum.

Midway says the 5, 10 & 15 (for NJ) are on backorder. I'll believe it when I see it though.

Date expected in stock: 3/15/2011

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=627464
NY_Shooter  [Team Member]
3/11/2011 2:13:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By NY_Shooter:

Yeah, now that you said it, it was their 2010 catalog. As for where you can buy them........I have no idea. I just knew they planned on coming out with them, and figured they would have by now.

Maybe someone should start a thread in their subforum.



Midway says the 5, 10 & 15 (for NJ) are on backorder. I'll believe it when I see it though.

Date expected in stock: 3/15/2011

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=627464


Interesting. I'm gonna do the "remind me when back in stock" thing, just for curiosity to see if they get them.

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rkbar15  [Team Member]
3/25/2011 5:09:52 AM EST
I think this is just a cruel joke on the part of Magpul & Midway.

Status:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=627464

Out of Stock, Backorder OK

Date expected in stock: 4/9/2011
emsjeep  [Team Member]
3/25/2011 6:27:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
I think this is just a cruel joke on the part of Magpul & Midway.

Status:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=627464

Out of Stock, Backorder OK

Date expected in stock: 4/9/2011



So in Midway language does that mean you should get them sometime in 2014?
Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/26/2011 12:55:01 PM EST
Originally Posted By rkbar15:
I think this is just a cruel joke on the part of Magpul & Midway.

Status:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=627464

Out of Stock, Backorder OK

Date expected in stock: 4/9/2011


dealer at the Saratoga show claims he heard of the 10/30s by PMag but said they wont ever be released.

I dont particularly take dealers words at gunshows as gospel though.

i hope they come out
kdc19  [Member]
3/26/2011 1:35:38 PM EST
i know you're looking for cheaper than $22, and $21 isn't much cheaper, but I run the Bushmaster 10 round straight-body for highpower & have been quite happy with them.

Bushmaster 10 Round Straight-Body Magazine
.223 Rem. / 5.56mm 10 Round capacity steel magazine with black finish and black follower. Works great in the M17S Bullpup, but can be used in all AR type rifles - and is accepted for High Power Match use by the Civilian Marksmanship Program and the N.R.A. Bushmaster ships these magazines with our DCM Competition Rifles - made in U.S.A.
Price: $20.98
Part No: 30-452
Dieter122  [Team Member]
3/26/2011 2:04:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By kdc19:
i know you're looking for cheaper than $22, and $21 isn't much cheaper, but I run the Bushmaster 10 round straight-body for highpower & have been quite happy with them.

Bushmaster 10 Round Straight-Body Magazine
.223 Rem. / 5.56mm 10 Round capacity steel magazine with black finish and black follower. Works great in the M17S Bullpup, but can be used in all AR type rifles - and is accepted for High Power Match use by the Civilian Marksmanship Program and the N.R.A. Bushmaster ships these magazines with our DCM Competition Rifles - made in U.S.A.
Price: $20.98
Part No: 30-452


they look nice.

i just snapped up a few prebans, all for the $15 range. I think ill just use those...+ Magpuls on the bottom + Magpul followers. Puts me right at the $20 mark per mag, but gives me a full capacity mag thats even more durable than those Bushy mags.
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