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 Is NICS a fixed price or can a FFL Overcharge?
Fishpaw  [Member]
6/9/2008 5:45:53 AM EST
As my local FFL is ill and elderly, ive been looking for a new one in my area. I checked out the FFL listing on gunbroker and found another local guy, but he is overcharging for the nics check. His fee is $30 for a transfer and $40 for the nics. Is he allowed to do this? Everyone else I found charges $15.
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SSJGohanMlm  [Member]
6/9/2008 6:32:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Fishpaw:
As my local FFL is ill and elderly, ive been looking for a new one in my area. I checked out the FFL listing on gunbroker and found another local guy, but he is overcharging for the nics check. His fee is $30 for a transfer and $40 for the nics. Is he allowed to do this? Everyone else I found charges $15.


well, it's his business so he can charge whatever he likes. My usuall FFL charges $38 for xfer and check. However, another local FFL charges $50 for xfer and check.
dblackrifle  [Member]
6/9/2008 6:34:30 AM EST
I know that when a FFL makes the NICS call it does cost the FFL money , but i dont know how much.
rkbar15  [Team Member]
6/9/2008 7:49:22 AM EST
There is no cost to the FFL for an FBI NICS check in NJ or any other state. The NJSP are the NICS point of contact and NJ charges the FFL a fee for the state check.

A NY FFL that charges for a NICS check is just pocketing the money.
PK90  [Life Member]
6/9/2008 7:49:32 AM EST
It is a fixed $15 + tax = $16.05 right on the phone bill as an MCI charge.

ETA: Call 1-900-263-4444 and hangup after the recording. Hit 0 and you will be charged.
rkbar15  [Team Member]
6/9/2008 7:58:48 AM EST
Adding state sales tax to a NJ NICS check doesn't even sound lawful. Does NJ charge sales tax on other state mandated fees?
dblackrifle  [Member]
6/9/2008 8:13:40 AM EST
Wouldn't surprise me if they did
phumb  [Team Member]
6/9/2008 9:26:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By PK90:
It is a fixed $15 + tax = $16.05 right on the phone bill as an MCI charge.

ETA: Call 1-900-263-4444 and hangup after the recording. Hit 0 and you will be charged.


what if its done online?
eta, just noticed most involved in this thread are NJ, i'm NY, no fees here.....yet.....
PK90  [Life Member]
6/9/2008 9:48:17 AM EST
No online NICS allowed. No digital bound book allowed. This is NJ.
fp1201  [Team Member]
6/9/2008 3:51:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By dblackrifle:
I know that when a FFL makes the NICS call it does cost the FFL money , but i don't know how much.


NO IT DOESN'T
A condition of having an "01" FFL is registering with the National Instant Background Check System. Any associated costs are the dealers time, ink, and phone charges (and it's a 800 number). for the service of receiving a firearm, logging it in, processing your 4473/NICS check, and annotating the disposition.
Most have been charging ~$25. Handguns in NY are usually more because there is a hell of a lot more paperwork.
Unless you're purchasing the gun from the dealer, he cannot collect sales tax on the purchase price, but can on the service charge of receiving it.
It's the dealers licenses and you're purchasing a service from him, I suggest having a firm understanding of his charges & requirements before asking to have a weapon sent there. YMMV
pfinac  [Member]
6/10/2008 3:10:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By fp1201:

Originally Posted By dblackrifle:
I know that when a FFL makes the NICS call it does cost the FFL money , but i don't know how much.


NO IT DOESN'T
A condition of having an "01" FFL is registering with the National Instant Background Check System. Any associated costs are the dealers time, ink, and phone charges (and it's a 800 number). for the service of receiving a firearm, logging it in, processing your 4473/NICS check, and annotating the disposition.
Most have been charging ~$25. Handguns in NY are usually more because there is a hell of a lot more paperwork.
Unless you're purchasing the gun from the dealer, he cannot collect sales tax on the purchase price, but can on the service charge of receiving it.
It's the dealers licenses and you're purchasing a service from him, I suggest having a firm understanding of his charges & requirements before asking to have a weapon sent there. YMMV


You are correct---------For New York..........I know a couple guys that charge $5 to cover the cost of their cell phone bill......What Crap!!
I think in some states though there is a state agency that the calls go through and there are charges associated to the Nics call. It seems New Jersey is one of those.
dblackrifle  [Member]
6/10/2008 4:22:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By fp1201:

Originally Posted By dblackrifle:
I know that when a FFL makes the NICS call it does cost the FFL money , but i don't know how much.


NO IT DOESN'T
A condition of having an "01" FFL is registering with the National Instant Background Check System. Any associated costs are the dealers time, ink, and phone charges (and it's a 800 number). for the service of receiving a firearm, logging it in, processing your 4473/NICS check, and annotating the disposition.
Most have been charging ~$25. Handguns in NY are usually more because there is a hell of a lot more paperwork.
Unless you're purchasing the gun from the dealer, he cannot collect sales tax on the purchase price, but can on the service charge of receiving it.
It's the dealers licenses and you're purchasing a service from him, I suggest having a firm understanding of his charges & requirements before asking to have a weapon sent there. YMMV



I guess i should have said that i was referenceing NJ NICS checks
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