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 GE vs Generac 20 kw generators from Home depot ? which is the better deal ? Please share thoughts
gettingstarted  [Member]
8/7/2010 10:30:26 AM EST
I am looking purchasing this 20 kw generac with 200 amp transfer switch

OR

this 20 kw GE with 200 amp transfer switch

Will be hooked up to a natural gas line and will have a licensed electrical contractor do the electrical side . I will do the pad myself .

Any one have experiance with the above equipment ? is Ge or Generac better ? Is home depot the cheapest place to buy this stuff at ?

Thanks in advance

edited to cross post in survival
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geegee  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 10:43:41 AM EST
Re-post this question in the Survivavl Forum. There's a motherlode of generator knowledge over there.
fook  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 11:04:43 AM EST
Home Despot will likley have the best price, $400 cheaper than Northern.



I went with the Generac 20kw because no dealers in my area will make a house call on the GE for warranty purposes. Local numnut told me I would have to bring it in.......



Frankly, I will never buy another GE product. Shitty warranty service and high parts prices ran me off.
ACEB36TC  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 2:12:23 PM EST
I put in a 30 KW Kohler recently. I HAVE BEEN VERY VERY HAPPY. I did my homework and there is a WORLD of difference between generators and REAL generators. My unit is natural gas fired and the transfer switch is NOT household grade. Total cost was about $12,000,,,Is it worth it? To me yes. This unit will run all three of my central A/C units including starting loads as well as the remainder of my home. It has a built in 20 min once per week start& run feature, self adding additional oil reivoir, 3 cyl GM water cooled engine as well as tons of other features. Be apprised that the nat gas pressure for these is much higher than it is for your home appliances and it will require a seperate valve/pressure regulator. If , in my opinion, you are going to need a generator then get one that will do the job as opposed to one that just looks like it will. Kohler services these units almost anywhere you live although you can easily do basic oil/filter changes.
joemama74  [Member]
8/7/2010 3:09:38 PM EST
We've got a 30kw Onan at work with a 6 cylinder Cummings diesel on it. Gotta be 30 years old, just had it overhauled last winter. The mechanic didn't know the idle speed, so it was off when we cranked it back up. Called the guys at Southwest Electric Motor Service and they told me what to check. I bought a $25 Kill-a-watt meter from Home Depot and have it dialed in now.

Runs like a bat of of hell. Loud, but for industrial use, works pretty good. Instead of a transfer switch, we just put a 200 amp panel on the generator trailer with 10- 20 amp sockets, one 230v socket, and we run cords. It's a little awkward, but it's cheap and it works.
NAK  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 4:17:18 PM EST
We use the generac as backup power at radio tower sites. I love em
Skibane  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 4:26:36 PM EST
GE isn't exactly a huge name in home standby power systems. My guess is that this model is actually made by someone else.
Fuggit  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 4:53:34 PM EST
I have a 10kw Generac. Works fine.

I will never intentionally by a GE product.
BeNotAfraid  [Team Member]
8/7/2010 5:46:01 PM EST
+1

Go GENERAC. Good website to check out products and local Dealers:

Texas GENERAC Dealers

What I'd do is call a local Dealer and see if he's got any "lightly used" or scratch & ding units around for a hefty discount. At any rate, I'd drive over to your local GENERAC Dealer. Especially at the Parts & Service counter. Eyeball what's getting repaired a lot, what parts seem to be in great demand, and just shoot the breeze with the guys. You'll learn a heck of a lot.

(I'd try and buy direct from GENERAC; maybe the outfit you work for will let you give a dealer a PO and you just pay your employer. I quit buying stuff from HomoDepot, since they sponsor gay, lesbian and trans-sexual stuff with their employees and logos.)
HankZudd  [Member]
8/8/2010 3:16:18 AM EST
ditto on the search for genny knowledge on Survival Gear forum.

NEVER buy any genny with a Chineese made motor.

that's all you need to know. Everything else is size & how much you want to spend: how much is the 'letricity worth NOW,
when you're sitting in the dark baking your ass cause the POS bargin you bought won't start, or stay running,,,,,,
Civis_Romanus_sum  [Member]
8/8/2010 7:55:24 AM EST
My observations after Hurricane Ike:

Many homeowners in SE Texas installed permanent mount generators after Rita-many were fueled by natural gas.

Ike uprooted a lot of live oaks and other large trees whose roots had entwined with the gas and water lines-ripping them up out of the ground. The gas company didn't have much choice but to shut out entire subdivisions-even if individual homes had no damage. Generators died, people sweated, and food spoiled. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Natural gas is a good, safe, and usually dependable fuel supply-and may be the only option if your city prohibits fixed propane tanks. But you might look into some sort of "tee" whereby you could bring in a portable propane tank (even a large household size on a trailer) to supplement the natural gas if you lose gas service.
Skibane  [Team Member]
8/8/2010 9:31:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By Civis_Romanus_sum:
My observations after Hurricane Ike:

Many homeowners in SE Texas installed permanent mount generators after Rita-many were fueled by natural gas.

Ike uprooted a lot of live oaks and other large trees whose roots had entwined with the gas and water lines-ripping them up out of the ground. The gas company didn't have much choice but to shut out entire subdivisions-even if individual homes had no damage. Generators died, people sweated, and food spoiled. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Natural gas is a good, safe, and usually dependable fuel supply-and may be the only option if your city prohibits fixed propane tanks. But you might look into some sort of "tee" whereby you could bring in a portable propane tank (even a large household size on a trailer) to supplement the natural gas if you lose gas service.


Also, in many areas, the gas and electric lines are buried in the same easements - and can be taken out by the same event. When a telco worker hit a gas line near a relative's home, the fire burned through the underground electric lines in just a few minutes. Result: No one in the entire subdivision had gas, electric or land line telephone service for many hours afterwards.
ACEB36TC  [Team Member]
8/8/2010 5:47:01 PM EST
Good points above about natty gas supply issues. I still have a large portable gas generator that I will never sell for those reasons.
GAU19  [Member]
8/8/2010 7:17:54 PM EST
Natural gas and propane do not have the same btu per mcf, requires different orfices.
CaptSchofield  [Team Member]
8/8/2010 7:43:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By CaptSchofield:
Try this site, it is were I got mine 5 years ago. Free delivery, Best price, Generac 13,000 NG runs great Don' know much about the GE's.

Never noticed any spike in my Gas bill when the Generators runs in Power outs. Even when it ran 27 hours straight without stop. Sure was nice not having to worry about running out of Fuel or trying to get fuel when Snowed in.

Once a year change oil, filter & the spark plugs No way, does it cost $7 to $9 an hour for it to run

My NG Generator gives me a vey warm comfortable feeling

http://norwall.com/?SRC=goog&Camp=AGPSGenerators&GRP=generators&KEYWORD=generators&gclid=CL6xqY6CqaMCFRCenAodtRKK3g

You are correct. I went back and ran the numbers on this unit. My math was incorrect above.

His 20kw gen specs say it will burn 206 cubic ft at half load and 294 at full load.

In my case and for what I pay for NG ( it would cost between $2.09 per hour at half load and $2.97 per hour at full load to operate. This includes taxes and fees.



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