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 Parker County Restricts Firearms use on private property under 10 acres in size
TXSteveT  [Member]
3/19/2009 2:39:17 PM
http://www.weatherforddemocrat.com/local/local_story_072123420.html

One thing not mentioned in the article is that the meetings are normally held on the 2nd and 4th Monday of the month. This one just happened to be moved to Friday and it seems
that the only people that knew about it turned out to be the ones wanting the new restirctions.
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douglasmorris99  [Team Member]
3/19/2009 3:01:35 PM
same in Lamar co. I think it is a state law as the only reference I could find when bying my 9ac was that to hunt with centerfire hand gun or long gun it had to be 50 ac and 10 for shotgun and bow,
according to the sheriff, they go with the state referal.
pissed me off as I intended to install my own range when I was buying...



DanParker  [Team Member]
3/19/2009 3:34:18 PM
Bear in mind that, assuming a square tract of land, 10 acres is an area only 220 yds. long on each side. While I could see that being used well for a shooting range, assuming a good berm...it's not really sizeable enough to reliably guarantee that a discharged bullet isn't going to end up on your neighbor's land when hunting.
kells81  [Team Member]
3/19/2009 11:53:32 PM
LOL I thought it was the law all over TX, I am pretty sure somewhere in the Outoor anual it covers something about gun hunting and 10 acres or less. could be wrong I didnt stay at a holiday inn express last night so the information might be a little off
nightfighter4d  [Team Member]
3/20/2009 7:26:55 PM
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.
DanParker  [Team Member]
3/20/2009 8:14:44 PM
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.

Can you cite the applicable TX statute?
mm38  [Team Member]
3/20/2009 9:03:01 PM
Originally Posted By DanParker:
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.

Can you cite the applicable TX statute?


Texas Local Government Code

"§ 235.022

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/LG/content/htm/lg.007.00.000235.00.htm

The late ETH commented and knew the parties involved when Collin County created a law which restricted shooting on lots smaller than 10 acres. We had a discussion on this, the topic was started by Gopher back in early June 2005.
I mainly remember this because ETH did not support the person who's range was being shut down, but rather the lady that was the neighbor....according to ETH, there was a berm of sorts but her house was behind it.


It's not quite the law all over the state. But it does allow the counties to make such laws.

mm
DanParker  [Team Member]
3/20/2009 9:10:57 PM

Originally Posted By mm38:
Originally Posted By DanParker:
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.

Can you cite the applicable TX statute?


Texas Local Government Code

"§ 235.022

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/LG/content/htm/lg.007.00.000235.00.htm

The late ETH commented and knew the parties involved when Collin County created a law which restricted shooting on lots smaller than 10 acres. We had a discussion on this, the topic was started by Gopher back in early June 2005.
I mainly remember this because ETH did not support the person who's range was being shut down, but rather the lady that was the neighbor....according to ETH, there was a berm of sorts but her house was behind it.


It's not quite the law all over the state. But it does allow the counties to make such laws.

mm

Yes, I know that statute and cited it myself in the other current thread on this same topic. But that does NOT establish a state minimum of 10 acres for centerfire rifle discharge. There are only two mentions of weapons and acreage...

"Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

...and...

"Sec. 235.042. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. (a) To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate hunting with bows and arrows on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

These simply provide county commissioners the authority to regulate "firearms" discharges (not centerfire specifically) and bow hunting on lots that are 10 acres or less in size, should they choose to do so. That does NOT constitute a state minimum of 10 acres for anything. It just means that they (the county) cannot impose such regulations on lots larger than 10 acres.
Fourman  [Team Member]
3/20/2009 11:08:14 PM
Originally Posted By DanParker:

Originally Posted By mm38:
Originally Posted By DanParker:
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.

Can you cite the applicable TX statute?


Texas Local Government Code

"§ 235.022

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/LG/content/htm/lg.007.00.000235.00.htm

The late ETH commented and knew the parties involved when Collin County created a law which restricted shooting on lots smaller than 10 acres. We had a discussion on this, the topic was started by Gopher back in early June 2005.
I mainly remember this because ETH did not support the person who's range was being shut down, but rather the lady that was the neighbor....according to ETH, there was a berm of sorts but her house was behind it.


It's not quite the law all over the state. But it does allow the counties to make such laws.

mm

Yes, I know that statute and cited it myself in the other current thread on this same topic. But that does NOT establish a state minimum of 10 acres for centerfire rifle discharge. There are only two mentions of weapons and acreage...

"Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

...and...

"Sec. 235.042. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. (a) To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate hunting with bows and arrows on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

These simply provide county commissioners the authority to regulate "firearms" discharges (not centerfire specifically) and bow hunting on lots that are 10 acres or less in size, should they choose to do so. That does NOT constitute a state minimum of 10 acres for anything. It just means that they (the county) cannot impose such regulations on lots larger than 10 acres.


I have had many issues with my neighbors on shooting and I have talked to the sheriff many times and whenever I brought up the 10 acres thing (I am 13 acres BTW) he was not interested in talking about it. It was almost as his way of stating that it was not a Texas state law. Also what about ranges that are on less than 10 acres????

pepperbelly  [Team Member]
3/21/2009 2:40:47 AM
Originally Posted By DanParker:

Originally Posted By mm38:
Originally Posted By DanParker:
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.

Can you cite the applicable TX statute?


Texas Local Government Code

"§ 235.022

http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/LG/content/htm/lg.007.00.000235.00.htm

The late ETH commented and knew the parties involved when Collin County created a law which restricted shooting on lots smaller than 10 acres. We had a discussion on this, the topic was started by Gopher back in early June 2005.
I mainly remember this because ETH did not support the person who's range was being shut down, but rather the lady that was the neighbor....according to ETH, there was a berm of sorts but her house was behind it.


It's not quite the law all over the state. But it does allow the counties to make such laws.

mm

Yes, I know that statute and cited it myself in the other current thread on this same topic. But that does NOT establish a state minimum of 10 acres for centerfire rifle discharge. There are only two mentions of weapons and acreage...

"Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

...and...

"Sec. 235.042. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. (a) To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate hunting with bows and arrows on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision."

These simply provide county commissioners the authority to regulate "firearms" discharges (not centerfire specifically) and bow hunting on lots that are 10 acres or less in size, should they choose to do so. That does NOT constitute a state minimum of 10 acres for anything. It just means that they (the county) cannot impose such regulations on lots larger than 10 acres.




This is to protect houses in town or a neighborhood in an unincorporated part of the county.


Jim
douglasmorris99  [Team Member]
3/21/2009 6:54:14 AM
in doing some reading and web searching, the 10 ac rule is pretty much state wide, though maybe not a state law. and it is shotgun, bow ONLY in every thing I find mandating the 10ac rule..for rimfire and center fire the restrictions move to 50ac or more ONLY. it is another, not so clear, leave it up to the officer on site to make the call ruling by govt. I have 9.93 ac, well over 1200 ft deep with no neighbor behind me for 1/2 mile and was told no by lamar co sherriff...
JET74  [Team Member]
3/21/2009 10:37:27 PM
Originally Posted By nightfighter4d:
10 acres is state law minimum for the discharge of centerfire weapons. Nothing new here. Move on please.


Wrong. I hate it when people post incorrect information as fact. There is no state law mandating 10 acres minimum at all
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dragongoddess  [Member]
3/22/2009 1:10:30 AM
ec. 235.001. APPLICABILITY. (a) This subchapter applies only to a county with a population of one million or more.

(b) This subchapter does not apply to fire, police, or military personnel acting in the course of their professional duties.

(c) This subchapter does not affect the authority of a municipality in the county to enact ordinances under other law concerning explosives.
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