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What are my options of a nj legal MP5 clone? And where should i be looking?
11/3/2011 10:12:55 PM
So I have decided after shooting my friends wifes (FBI agent) full auto MP5 this past weekend. I was going to purchase a Kimber covert II but now I have decided a 9mm mp5 clone is my next purchase on the list. So what are my options and brands to look at that offer one that is NJ compliant. I have been having a hard time finding them. Also if anyone could direct me to where i could find them in stock.
Any help would be great thank guys.
Any help would be great thank guys.
11/3/2011 10:47:40 PM
Why not get a GSG5. I've got one and once you start shooting you can't put it down. Shoot all day for $20.
11/3/2011 11:04:26 PM
i have a gsg5. Its alot of fun to shoot. But u can never have to many guns. and 9mm isnt to bad to shoot either tho. Not $20 but not to bad.
11/3/2011 11:36:14 PM
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
11/4/2011 2:30:25 PM
Figure $2500 to get you into the game with a "real" MP5
The guys at Atlantic have hooked me up good in the past and ive been eyeballing this rifle
MP5 clone
It is not roller locked but def looks the part, have it sent to hemcon for neutering id think youd be GTG
The guys at Atlantic have hooked me up good in the past and ive been eyeballing this rifle
MP5 clone
It is not roller locked but def looks the part, have it sent to hemcon for neutering id think youd be GTG
11/4/2011 2:41:38 PM
Originally Posted By scatterbrains:
Figure $2500 to get you into the game with a "real" MP5
The guys at Atlantic have hooked me up good in the past and ive been eyeballing this rifle
MP5 clone
It is not roller locked but def looks the part, have it sent to hemcon for neutering id think youd be GTG
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/data/default/images/catalog/large/VR5S.jpg
Figure $2500 to get you into the game with a "real" MP5
The guys at Atlantic have hooked me up good in the past and ive been eyeballing this rifle
MP5 clone
It is not roller locked but def looks the part, have it sent to hemcon for neutering id think youd be GTG
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/data/default/images/catalog/large/VR5S.jpg
All i gotta say is wtf
non roller lock? Whats the point? How would you even gey replacement parts?11/4/2011 2:53:33 PM
supposedly atlantic backs it, from what i can find on HKpro they arent garbage but guys dont like them due to not roller locked
11/4/2011 2:53:44 PM
I have the GSG 5SD .22. As others have said, its a lot of fun at the range. If you are going to be using the clone for CQB courses and any future zombie invasions go spend the 2K+. But if its going to be just for plinking and looking pretty in the cabinet concider the .22.
11/4/2011 5:32:05 PM
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
I like my MKE. They're the best balance of price and quality out there right now IMO. A build by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid is the ultimate though but be prepared to pay ~$2500 for one.
I'll have mine at the hometown shoot this weekend, anyone who'd like to try it is more than welcome to.
11/4/2011 6:03:33 PM
Originally Posted By mak0:
I like my MKE. They're the best balance of price and quality out there right now IMO. A build by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid is the ultimate though but be prepared to pay ~$2500 for one.
I'll have mine at the hometown shoot this weekend, anyone who'd like to try it is more than welcome to.
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
I like my MKE. They're the best balance of price and quality out there right now IMO. A build by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid is the ultimate though but be prepared to pay ~$2500 for one.
I'll have mine at the hometown shoot this weekend, anyone who'd like to try it is more than welcome to.
what price do they run? And also what model is the one with a fixed stock and 16 inch barrel so there NJ legal? also do you know anywhere that has them? I realy dont want to spend more then $1500 and def dont want to spend over 2000 and i dont think i can get a good build for that from what i have read.
11/4/2011 6:38:45 PM
Originally Posted By pulser9:
what price do they run? And also what model is the one with a fixed stock and 16 inch barrel so there NJ legal? also do you know anywhere that has them? I realy dont want to spend more then $1500 and def dont want to spend over 2000 and i dont think i can get a good build for that from what i have read.
Originally Posted By mak0:
I like my MKE. They're the best balance of price and quality out there right now IMO. A build by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid is the ultimate though but be prepared to pay ~$2500 for one.
I'll have mine at the hometown shoot this weekend, anyone who'd like to try it is more than welcome to.
Originally Posted By ZEROTHOMAS:
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
No Mp5 clone will be cheap. Do a google search on Todd Bailey and all of his companies. Stay away from anything made by all of them. Vector arms makes a quality rifle but its not cheap. I also hear the MKE AT-94's arent bad. I know Mak0 has one, maybe he can enlighten on that. Also anything built by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid will do you well but again, not cheap.
I like my MKE. They're the best balance of price and quality out there right now IMO. A build by Ghilliebear or Chopstix Kid is the ultimate though but be prepared to pay ~$2500 for one.
I'll have mine at the hometown shoot this weekend, anyone who'd like to try it is more than welcome to.
what price do they run? And also what model is the one with a fixed stock and 16 inch barrel so there NJ legal? also do you know anywhere that has them? I realy dont want to spend more then $1500 and def dont want to spend over 2000 and i dont think i can get a good build for that from what i have read.
The AT94-A2 is the carbine version (fixed stock, 16" barrel) that is legal in NJ. The only downside to these is that they take proprietary magazines although modifying regular MP5 mags to fit is not terribly difficult with a dremel. Also, people have removed the mag well blocks in the gun to make it accept regular MP5 mags with just a dremel. Buds has them in stock right now for $1249 shipped: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62302
If you want one don't hesitate, they are not being imported anymore.
11/4/2011 6:48:57 PM
Definitely tempting. So many things i want, not enough money
11/4/2011 7:01:02 PM
The AT94-A2 is the carbine version (fixed stock, 16" barrel) that is legal in NJ. The only downside to these is that they take proprietary magazines although modifying regular MP5 mags to fit is not terribly difficult with a dremel. Also, people have removed the mag well blocks in the gun to make it accept regular MP5 mags with just a dremel. Buds has them in stock right now for $1249 shipped: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62302
If you want one don't hesitate, they are not being imported anymore.
If you want one don't hesitate, they are not being imported anymore.
Thats all i needed im sold
11/4/2011 7:03:22 PM
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
11/4/2011 7:08:32 PM
Originally Posted By pulser9:
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
Correct.
MKE builds these under HK contract using original HK tooling.
11/4/2011 9:27:38 PM
Originally Posted By mak0:
Correct.
MKE builds these under HK contract using original HK tooling.
Originally Posted By pulser9:
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
Correct.
MKE builds these under HK contract using original HK tooling.
well i just ordered it. hopefully the lady of the house dosnt look at the bank statment this month.
Do you have links to instructions on how to remover the tabs int he magwell? Or do you know of anywhere that sells extra mags?
11/4/2011 9:41:07 PM
Originally Posted By pulser9:
well i just ordered it. hopefully the lady of the house dosnt look at the bank statment this month.
Do you have links to instructions on how to remover the tabs int he magwell? Or do you know of anywhere that sells extra mags?
Originally Posted By mak0:
Correct.
MKE builds these under HK contract using original HK tooling.
Originally Posted By pulser9:
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
that is a roller lock not a blow back knock off corect?
Correct.
MKE builds these under HK contract using original HK tooling.
well i just ordered it. hopefully the lady of the house dosnt look at the bank statment this month.
Do you have links to instructions on how to remover the tabs int he magwell? Or do you know of anywhere that sells extra mags?
Congrats on your purchase, they are extremely fun guns.
The mags are almost impossible to find. ATI says they've had an order in for extra mags with MKE for a long time but there is no ETA on when they will be here.
In my experience cheaper, low powered ammo like Federal Champion 115gr and Remington UMC 115gr barely have enough power to cycle the action and the cases just fall at your feet. I've been shooting Winchester RA9124N though mine which runs great. I've had many people on HKpro recommend Sellier & Bellot 115gr also. I've actually bought a case of this recently but haven't tried it yet.
Here is a video on youtube of a guy explaining how he removed the mag well block:
