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Is there a limit on how many guns you can own?
2/29/2012 12:07:34 AM
As the OP asks,
Is there a limit placed on how big a collection you may own?
18Z50
Is there a limit placed on how big a collection you may own?
18Z50
2/29/2012 12:27:26 AM
Originally Posted By 18B30:
As the OP asks,
Is there a limit placed on how big a collection you may own?
18Z50
As the OP asks,
Is there a limit placed on how big a collection you may own?
18Z50
Technically I don't think there is. However you would have to have adequate security and still show good reason for each gun you own. Obviously if numbers get really silly it becomes increasingly difficult to convince the authorities you could possibly use them all..
2/29/2012 12:39:25 AM
Is collecting dicouraged?
2/29/2012 1:51:31 AM
Originally Posted By 18B30:
Is collecting dicouraged?
Is collecting dicouraged?
Not really.
People do collect what would equate to C&R in the US, amongst other things. I think you can actually purchase firearms solely for the purpose of collecting. You can even keep certain handguns at home as part of a collection, but they cannot be fired and you won't be allowed ammunition for them.
Typically multiple firearms in the same calibre aren't encouraged, although you're usually good for two or three. If you can justify more, you can have them.
Since it all varies a bit in different counties, it's hard to say at what number the police will insist on extra security. 15+ seemed common. Everything needs to be stored in a safe, including the ammunition, hence there are practical concerns about dealing with large collections.
You can buy as many regular shotguns as you like without permission, at least until the police tell you to stop and fit added security measures.
2/29/2012 2:56:37 AM
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit 
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
2/29/2012 2:57:50 AM
The 2 collectors I know in my area are struggling to justify their collection in more recent years !
Collections of firearms are not encouraged within the UK.
You have to justify a good reason & demonsrate usage here. Collecting is not a good reason as far as I'm aware.
Collections of older rifles like the .303 Lee Enfields for instance have been amassed around those rifles different configuration, be it sights, stock, barrel length & a discipline
to shoot the rifle within. All this despite having 6 oir more rifle of the same calibre !
Some constabularies are now actively knocking the keep / aqquire totals of ammunition here along with some tougher questions as to why so many rifles of same calibre are kept.
Personally, AI think its a crock of shit. People keeping hold of some unique & rare rifles is what we need. So bloody what if they dont shoot the older stuff.
Better that, than they go to another country or end up being disposed of
Collections of firearms are not encouraged within the UK.
You have to justify a good reason & demonsrate usage here. Collecting is not a good reason as far as I'm aware.
Collections of older rifles like the .303 Lee Enfields for instance have been amassed around those rifles different configuration, be it sights, stock, barrel length & a discipline
to shoot the rifle within. All this despite having 6 oir more rifle of the same calibre !
Some constabularies are now actively knocking the keep / aqquire totals of ammunition here along with some tougher questions as to why so many rifles of same calibre are kept.
Personally, AI think its a crock of shit. People keeping hold of some unique & rare rifles is what we need. So bloody what if they dont shoot the older stuff.
Better that, than they go to another country or end up being disposed of
2/29/2012 6:45:38 AM
Originally Posted By Winsx3:
The 2 collectors I know in my area are struggling to justify their collection in more recent years !
Collections of firearms are not encouraged within the UK.
You have to justify a good reason & demonsrate usage here. Collecting is not a good reason as far as I'm aware.
Collections of older rifles like the .303 Lee Enfields for instance have been amassed around those rifles different configuration, be it sights, stock, barrel length & a discipline
to shoot the rifle within. All this despite having 6 oir more rifle of the same calibre !
Some constabularies are now actively knocking the keep / aqquire totals of ammunition here along with some tougher questions as to why so many rifles of same calibre are kept.
Personally, AI think its a crock of shit. People keeping hold of some unique & rare rifles is what we need. So bloody what if they dont shoot the older stuff.
Better that, than they go to another country or end up being disposed of
The 2 collectors I know in my area are struggling to justify their collection in more recent years !
Collections of firearms are not encouraged within the UK.
You have to justify a good reason & demonsrate usage here. Collecting is not a good reason as far as I'm aware.
Collections of older rifles like the .303 Lee Enfields for instance have been amassed around those rifles different configuration, be it sights, stock, barrel length & a discipline
to shoot the rifle within. All this despite having 6 oir more rifle of the same calibre !
Some constabularies are now actively knocking the keep / aqquire totals of ammunition here along with some tougher questions as to why so many rifles of same calibre are kept.
Personally, AI think its a crock of shit. People keeping hold of some unique & rare rifles is what we need. So bloody what if they dont shoot the older stuff.
Better that, than they go to another country or end up being disposed of
Collections are permitted
The primary issue us provision of adequate security for the storage of the guns.
There are other considerations, but as long as you are a collector and not just amassing an enormous arsenal of guns for the hell of it, then you should have no issues.
I know a guy who has a huge number of guns.
2/29/2012 7:40:34 AM
When I got to eight Hampshire Constabulary told me no more until I got an alarm.
2/29/2012 7:49:17 AM
With Avon & Somerset it was five before I was told I needed to get an alarm.
2/29/2012 7:51:36 AM
Originally Posted By Badger66:
When I got to eight Hampshire Constabulary told me no more until I got an alarm.
When I got to eight Hampshire Constabulary told me no more until I got an alarm.
15 for old London Town
2/29/2012 7:52:06 AM
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
It would seem an almost pointless condition otherwise.
2/29/2012 7:52:47 AM
Originally Posted By DavidTS:
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
I have one 308, which I use for multiple purposes
ETA, in Kent I was told maximum of 6 unless a security alarm fitted.
2/29/2012 7:54:03 AM
For A&S it was OK for me to install a DIY alarm myself, the firearms officer mentioned that when I get to double figures they'd ask for a monitored alarm.
2/29/2012 8:06:39 AM
Originally Posted By LV426:
I have one 308, which I use for multiple purposes
ETA, in Kent I was told maximum of 6 unless a security alarm fitted.
Originally Posted By DavidTS:
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
I have one 308, which I use for multiple purposes
ETA, in Kent I was told maximum of 6 unless a security alarm fitted.
Poofs in Kent
I have 5 .223's BTW
2/29/2012 8:25:41 AM
Originally Posted By LV426:
I have one 308, which I use for multiple purposes
ETA, in Kent I was told maximum of 6 unless a security alarm fitted.
Originally Posted By DavidTS:
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
If you can justify good reason, the sky's the limit
I'm still testing it.....
As Anaxes said, multiples of the same calibre are possible (I have three .308's, for different uses).
I have one 308, which I use for multiple purposes
ETA, in Kent I was told maximum of 6 unless a security alarm fitted.
Mine are somewhat extreme multiple purposes
A 1200 yard range is for one .308, with a 30" barrel and muzzle brake.
The second is a stalking rifle with moderator.
The third is my SLR, a gallery range fun rifle
Don't think one would do all three somehow
2/29/2012 8:33:27 AM
Originally Posted By silentjeff:
For A&S it was OK for me to install a DIY alarm myself, the firearms officer mentioned that when I get to double figures they'd ask for a monitored alarm.
For A&S it was OK for me to install a DIY alarm myself, the firearms officer mentioned that when I get to double figures they'd ask for a monitored alarm.
That's good as the cost of a monitoring/maintenance contract is quite a bit.
I pay £420 ex VAT p.a. for a dualcom system.
2/29/2012 9:19:11 AM
Originally Posted By DI_Burnside:
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
It would seem an almost pointless condition otherwise.
Not necessarily, although it is beneficial to have a monitored system. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who owns a large security installations company and got a very good deal on a monitoring and maintenance package, as well as regular upgrades.
There are other security measures you can take, which just elevate the level of security you have. My security level has always been way higher than that required by the police fro the number of Guns I have so it's never really been a point of contention.
I'm not prepared to give details of mine online naturally, but I will give a few pointers next time we speak.
2/29/2012 9:56:07 AM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Not necessarily, although it is beneficial to have a monitored system. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who owns a large security installations company and got a very good deal on a monitoring and maintenance package, as well as regular upgrades.
There are other security measures you can take, which just elevate the level of security you have. My security level has always been way higher than that required by the police fro the number of Guns I have so it's never really been a point of contention.
I'm not prepared to give details of mine online naturally, but I will give a few pointers next time we speak.
Originally Posted By DI_Burnside:
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
It would seem an almost pointless condition otherwise.
Not necessarily, although it is beneficial to have a monitored system. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who owns a large security installations company and got a very good deal on a monitoring and maintenance package, as well as regular upgrades.
There are other security measures you can take, which just elevate the level of security you have. My security level has always been way higher than that required by the police fro the number of Guns I have so it's never really been a point of contention.
I'm not prepared to give details of mine online naturally, but I will give a few pointers next time we speak.
Ah go on, are you at Defcon 2 or Defcon 3 right now?
2/29/2012 10:08:42 AM
my security at the old house was refered to by the police as the fuhrer bunker
2/29/2012 10:09:10 AM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Not necessarily, although it is beneficial to have a monitored system. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who owns a large security installations company and got a very good deal on a monitoring and maintenance package, as well as regular upgrades.
There are other security measures you can take, which just elevate the level of security you have. My security level has always been way higher than that required by the police fro the number of Guns I have so it's never really been a point of contention.
I'm not prepared to give details of mine online naturally, but I will give a few pointers next time we speak.
Originally Posted By DI_Burnside:
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
With regard to an imposed alarm condition, would it need to be a monitored alarm with Police response such as RedCare or DualCom?
It would seem an almost pointless condition otherwise.
Not necessarily, although it is beneficial to have a monitored system. I'm lucky enough to have a friend who owns a large security installations company and got a very good deal on a monitoring and maintenance package, as well as regular upgrades.
There are other security measures you can take, which just elevate the level of security you have. My security level has always been way higher than that required by the police fro the number of Guns I have so it's never really been a point of contention.
I'm not prepared to give details of mine online naturally, but I will give a few pointers next time we speak.
I know what he's got......
2/29/2012 11:44:57 AM
Originally Posted By UKGuy:
my security at the old house was refered to by the police as the fuhrer bunker
my security at the old house was refered to by the police as the fuhrer bunker
Phalanx is armed and operational
2/29/2012 12:13:36 PM
I know of one collector with 200+ rifles (mostly .303 I believe!)
2/29/2012 2:00:56 PM
I think it's the same anywhere, as long as you have the money, you can get quite a lot.
Of course in America you could live in a trailer and have lots of guns, but over here you'd have to live in a fairly substantial house with decent security to acquire a large collection.
When I'm over in the states visiting friends and family I'm often lecturing them on the importance of securing their firearms.
Of course in America you could live in a trailer and have lots of guns, but over here you'd have to live in a fairly substantial house with decent security to acquire a large collection.
When I'm over in the states visiting friends and family I'm often lecturing them on the importance of securing their firearms.
3/1/2012 4:17:43 PM
Originally Posted By target-hunter:
I know of one collector with 200+ rifles (mostly .303 I believe!)
I know of one collector with 200+ rifles (mostly .303 I believe!)
That's not a collection - that's a scrapyard!
3/1/2012 4:51:36 PM
Hm, looks like we danes have found a sensible compromise...: All firearms have to be locked away in an approved safe. Having more than 25 firearms of normal type, shotguns, repeating rifles etc mandates a direct alarm and a better safe. Having more than 10 of particularly dangerous firearms, e.g. pistols or semi's; Same thing: upgraded safe and a direct alarm.
Soren (Keeper of a small but well maintained scrap yard)
Soren (Keeper of a small but well maintained scrap yard)
3/1/2012 9:55:43 PM
So what do you do for ammo ? can you reload ? I have 2 safes full and a couple of extras
and a couple of extras 3/2/2012 12:53:41 AM
Had 6 in my old house, but was then told that the security would need to be improved before further slots were added... (old house had no alarm and was a bit isolated)
Moved to new house, "good" alarm fitted, with recommendation of FEO) and never been restricted since... running out of space now..
ETA: Page 2 belonga Dave
Moved to new house, "good" alarm fitted, with recommendation of FEO) and never been restricted since... running out of space now..
ETA: Page 2 belonga Dave
3/2/2012 1:21:32 AM
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
So what do you do for ammo ? can you reload ?
So what do you do for ammo ? can you reload ?
There are restrictions on how much you can possess and purchase at one time (why both? I have no idea). It has to be kept in a safe and cannot be sent directly, only to our FFL equivalents. Shotgun cartridges don't have either of those restrictions, except for slug (basically).
Reloading is very popular as ammunition costs a lot more here, although most of us load with expensive components. Good factory match ammunition tends to be uncommon and very expensive, at least around here. There aren't really many controls on reloading and you don't usually need to log the ammunition you make, unlike purchases of factory ammunition.
3/2/2012 2:57:40 AM
Originally Posted By Anaxes:
There are restrictions on how much you can possess and purchase at one time (why both? I have no idea). It has to be kept in a safe and cannot be sent directly, only to our FFL equivalents. Shotgun cartridges don't have either of those restrictions, except for slug (basically).
Reloading is very popular as ammunition costs a lot more here, although most of us load with expensive components. Good factory match ammunition tends to be uncommon and very expensive, at least around here. There aren't really many controls on reloading and you don't usually need to log the ammunition you make, unlike purchases of factory ammunition.
Originally Posted By whiskerz:
So what do you do for ammo ? can you reload ?
So what do you do for ammo ? can you reload ?
There are restrictions on how much you can possess and purchase at one time (why both? I have no idea). It has to be kept in a safe and cannot be sent directly, only to our FFL equivalents. Shotgun cartridges don't have either of those restrictions, except for slug (basically).
Reloading is very popular as ammunition costs a lot more here, although most of us load with expensive components. Good factory match ammunition tends to be uncommon and very expensive, at least around here. There aren't really many controls on reloading and you don't usually need to log the ammunition you make, unlike purchases of factory ammunition.
+1
And the fact that a lot of europeans still shoot old factory military surplus ammo at matches, though a bit self defeating, illustrates the price level. It's not as if there are extra taxes on ammo, it is simply expensive.
Soren
