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 ACOG +RMR?
akchameleon  [Member]
11/30/2011 1:39:16 AM
Hello everyone. I'm currenlty looking at adding a RMR to my ACOG.
Only problem is I would like to check one out mounted to a ACOG before spending the $.

Does anyone in the Anchorage area have an RMR mounted on a ACOG?

uafgrad  [Moderator]
11/30/2011 2:37:33 AM
best options would be AK Tactical or WWG I would think unless there is one in private hands

Viper is loaded, tell him you want him to order one for your T&E
mtime7  [Member]
11/30/2011 11:30:14 AM
I have an RMR but I can't figure out how to mount it, I have the acog with the fiber optic light source, and when I try to mount the rmr it wont clear the adjustment cape on the scope. My guess is the mount I have is for a TA01, but I could be wrong, I havent fooled with it much.

OK, I just tried it again and it went on with no problem, I was trying to mount it to far foward before and it actually fits on the very edge of the rear of scope.
I am not in anchorage, but I appreciate you getting me off my ass to mount it
Spartan117  [Team Member]
11/30/2011 4:32:32 PM
I would recommend mounting it at a 45 degree angle instead of on top of the ACOG. After trying one mounted like that, I had formed the political party "The Optic is Too Damn High". It's very uncomfortable and is less stable shooting. At 45 degrees however, it works great and is both comfortable and stable. In fact, it's in some ways more comfortable than a traditional stance (more ergonomically friendly to the wrist).

ridewaves  [Team Member]
11/30/2011 5:54:42 PM
Originally Posted By Spartan117:
I would recommend mounting it at a 45 degree angle instead of on top of the ACOG. After trying one mounted like that, I had formed the political party "The Optic is Too Damn High". It's very uncomfortable and is less stable shooting. At 45 degrees however, it works great and is both comfortable and stable. In fact, it's in some ways more comfortable than a traditional stance (more ergonomically friendly to the wrist).

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/obsidianstudio/main_ar_02.jpg


Concur. I ran a TA01NSN-TRD for a while... too damn high. Especially with a RMR. Thats an expensive piece of kit to be running in a less than optimal position like that.
akchameleon  [Member]
12/1/2011 3:23:45 AM
Does anyone in Anchorage/Wasilla area have a RMR mounted on a ACOG that would be willing to meet me at the Birchwood range?
CMANavy  [Member]
12/6/2011 12:46:24 AM
Kind of over kill to run another sight with the ACOG. It is made to run close up and far.
Glockfan  [Team Member]
12/6/2011 1:03:43 PM
Originally Posted By CMANavy:
Kind of over kill to run another sight with the ACOG. It is made to run close up and far.


I disagree. The ACOG is really at its best from 25 yards and out. While you can do well if you practice with the ACOG and get used to it. For most shooters it will never be as fast up close (inside 25 yards) as a 1x optic. Just my take. I personally have run these set ups on past builds.




ridewaves  [Team Member]
12/6/2011 4:24:53 PM
Really depends on what ACOG as well.
desentis  [Member]
12/6/2011 11:55:18 PM
Good pics.

I guess it does depend on the ACOG. Mine has a very nice red dot sight when I keep both eyes open. A red dot on top of that would be redundant.

Is it the BAC? I feel like Trijicons web site lists some with BAC and some without.

I have to think it would be heavy to mount two sights.

But I have been eyeballing the Eotech XPs and a flip out magnifier. That would be a pretty sweet set up. And less expensive than my ACOG.

Is that a TA33-8? I was looking at buying one of those. Maybe I don't want one after all.

desentis  [Member]
12/7/2011 12:21:06 AM
From the Trijicons site (sight):

Bindon Aiming Concept (BAC) models feature bright daytime reticles using fiber optics which collect ambient light.

My TA31A says with BAC. Looks like only some of the 4x models have it.
Glockfan  [Team Member]
12/7/2011 1:37:31 AM
BAC works fine when your shooting from a stationary position but it falls down at least for me when your moving and shooting or trying to shoot and scan for additional targets.
Pat
akchameleon  [Member]
12/7/2011 3:34:03 AM
No offense but I don't care for the angled red dot option. This is one of the reasons why I have been wanting to check out a RMR mounted ontop of an ACOG.

desentis  [Member]
12/7/2011 8:35:43 PM
The latest book of the AR is plastered with the new Kruger optical 1-8 scope that has an integral red dot on top.

The reviewer said it was too high to get a good cheek weld, and that made the dot inconsistent. I wouldn't think a red dot would need a good cheek weld, but maybe it does.

I'm scoping a long barrel, so maybe I will try that canted red dot. I can't really shell out big bucks see days, and that seems like it might be a good solution.
desentis  [Member]
12/7/2011 8:41:06 PM
There's a used jpoint on the EE right now with an ACOG mount.

How similar is this to the RMR?
akchameleon  [Member]
12/8/2011 2:06:50 AM
I'm not mounting it on an AR platform.

Glockfan  [Team Member]
12/8/2011 2:42:27 AM
Originally Posted By akchameleon:
No offense but I don't care for the angled red dot option. This is one of the reasons why I have been wanting to check out a RMR mounted ontop of an ACOG.



A friend of mine likes it on the top. I don't because you have to have a high jaw weld which I find slow to use and your bore off set is really bad. With the angled mount its fast and you simply rotate the rifle while maintaining your cheek weld. The only disadvantage is negotiating strong side corners because you have to wind your elbow out to shoot that way.
Pat
desentis  [Member]
12/11/2011 12:13:09 AM
1/2 price doctor optic

http://swfa.com/Docter-Red-Dot-Sights-C1885.aspx

Does anyone have experiance with this sight, or know about thier shipping to Alaska?
ridewaves  [Member]
12/11/2011 12:24:10 AM
If you're going with a Docter/Jpoint/TRD/Fastfire/etc... you might as well go with a RDP II. TNVC says theyre supposed to be for training only, but my experience is that ALL of those sights are easy to break if you use your gun hard. While I haven't been thrilled with the performance of any MRDS, for me, the RDP performed just as well for less $$. I do not have any experience with the RMR, but they seem to offer a bit more that the rest of the field in terms of durability... not to mention the fiber optic/tritium illumination. If I had to get a MRD again for a work gun, it'd be an RMR.
CMANavy  [Member]
12/12/2011 9:56:30 PM
Pat, you have too many cool toys...