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Surly  [Member]
10/2/2010 11:10:43 AM
All of you members need to contact the NRA and tell them they fucked this one up. I'm in the process of seeing how high I can go to get this looked at. If you have any info, feel free to post it here or IM it to me. The rep for the Dakotas is the same so you NoDakers need to get after them too if they are supporting commie incumbents.

Herseth may vote for 2A rights, but the other 90% of the time she's towing the party line and this needs stopped.
meltdown  [Moderator]
10/3/2010 9:09:27 AM
What's your opinion on this? =>
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/247820/staying-target-jim-geraghty?page=1
Surly  [Member]
10/3/2010 9:57:25 AM
Originally Posted By meltdown:
What's your opinion on this? =>
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/247820/staying-target-jim-geraghty?page=1


My opinion is that they are a bunch of shallow dolts that are promoting their own demise by not looking deeper into whom they are giving positive endorsements. I'm going to do what I can to make a dent in this and I'm considering dropping the NRA life membership as well. They are essentially doing the RINO compromise and I've had enough of that shit from the jerks I've voted into office as of late. I suggest you all get after them too regarding the discrepancies with their flawed rating system.
meltdown  [Moderator]
10/3/2010 11:44:11 AM
Thank you for the clarification. From your first post it wasn't clear (at least to me) that you understood
the NRA's stance of "The NRA does not endorse conservatives; it endorses Second Amendment supporters."
From your response, it is clear that you are aware of that.

While I think that the NRA makes some questionable compromises and could be improved in several aspects
I personally will continue my membership and use their ratings as one of multiple considerations in who I vote for or against.





Surly  [Member]
10/3/2010 11:51:40 AM
Whatever you do, don't vote for Herseth unless you want to see this admin succeed in fundamentally transforming us into commies.
meltdown  [Moderator]
10/3/2010 12:37:58 PM
Um, No. I have never and will never vote for her.

cletussd  [Member]
10/3/2010 5:15:13 PM
Originally Posted By Surly:
All of you members need to contact the NRA and tell them they fucked this one up. I'm in the process of seeing how high I can go to get this looked at. If you have any info, feel free to post it here or IM it to me. The rep for the Dakotas is the same so you NoDakers need to get after them too if they are supporting commie incumbents.

Herseth may vote for 2A rights, but the other 90% of the time she's towing the party line and this needs stopped.


The NRA Rep for North and South is Clay Pederson.Trust me he is NOT happy about the NRA backing
Steffy,that decision came from his boss'es not him.
pokey074  [Member]
10/4/2010 1:28:53 AM
Herseth is a lot more conservative than most of the current RINOs.
Surly  [Member]
10/4/2010 8:22:47 PM
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Herseth is a lot more conservative than most of the current RINOs.


Yeah, you can vote for Daugaard and feel good about yourself with that rationale.

Herseth voted WITH PelosiI 90% of the time. The other 10% was gun votes to win the hearts and minds of voters like you. I'm certain drooling Johnson would appreciate your vote too the next go-around. If you want more of the same, you go ahead and vote her in again...I sure as hell won't.

Surly  [Member]
10/4/2010 8:27:33 PM
Originally Posted By cletussd:

The NRA Rep for North and South is Clay Pederson.Trust me he is NOT happy about the NRA backing
Steffy,that decision came from his boss'es not him.


Have you contacted him? I was going to give him a call and see who else I can call. As for now, no more "round-up" with my purchases and no more cash to these shills. I've been getting bent for the past 24 years after elections and enough is enough already!

cletussd  [Member]
10/4/2010 8:52:08 PM
Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By cletussd:

The NRA Rep for North and South is Clay Pederson.Trust me he is NOT happy about the NRA backing
Steffy,that decision came from his boss'es not him.


Have you contacted him? I was going to give him a call and see who else I can call. As for now, no more "round-up" with my purchases and no more cash to these shills. I've been getting bent for the past 24 years after elections and enough is enough already!



He stops by my neighbors house when he's in Rapid.
Last time I talked to him I asked about the endorsment for Steffy.
He told me he tried to tell the higher-ups that there would be alot of backlash,but they did'nt seem to care.
I told him to passs on to his boss that if they keep up the BS they will be down more than just myself for people cancelling
their meberships.
He said he would let them know.
Dissident  [Member]
10/4/2010 11:13:47 PM
To be honest, I wouldn't be a member were it not for the fact that I have to be in order to renew my membership to the local range. Last year they kept sending me renewal notices telling me that I had only had months before my membershio was going to expire. I decided to pull out my card and realized that I in fact actually two more years to go.
meltdown  [Moderator]
10/5/2010 12:37:02 AM
Originally Posted By Surly:
Johnson would appreciate your vote too the next go-around.


ouch, that's gotta hurt.
I know you feel very strongly about this topic but are you insinuating pokey74 is a liberal ?
We're on the same side here, men, let's try not to misdirect our frustration on each other.

pokey074  [Member]
10/5/2010 1:00:31 AM
You're unhappy about the NRA endorsing Herseth despite the fact that she overwhelmingly votes pro gun?

Don't assume you know how I'll vote.

Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Herseth is a lot more conservative than most of the current RINOs.


Yeah, you can vote for Daugaard and feel good about yourself with that rationale.

Herseth voted WITH PelosiI 90% of the time. The other 10% was gun votes to win the hearts and minds of voters like you. I'm certain drooling Johnson would appreciate your vote too the next go-around. If you want more of the same, you go ahead and vote her in again...I sure as hell won't.



MrGreg  [Team Member]
10/5/2010 6:30:21 PM
The NRA endorsed Pomeroy (D) over Berg (R) in the ND Representatives race, too. Both have received A ratings from the NRA, but Pomeroy has repeatedly voted against guns, an example being the 94 AWB.

Seriously, what gives?
Surly  [Member]
10/5/2010 9:04:08 PM
Originally Posted By cletussd:
He stops by my neighbors house when he's in Rapid.
Last time I talked to him I asked about the endorsment for Steffy.
He told me he tried to tell the higher-ups that there would be alot of backlash,but they did'nt seem to care.
I told him to passs on to his boss that if they keep up the BS they will be down more than just myself for people cancelling
their meberships.
He said he would let them know.


They must be under the impression that we're a bunch of fudds here or that there's not enough to really count. Regardless, I'm going to raise all of the hell I can about this and if they gaff me off, that's it.

Surly  [Member]
10/5/2010 9:09:04 PM
Originally Posted By pokey074:
You're unhappy about the NRA endorsing Herseth despite the fact that she overwhelmingly votes pro gun?

Don't assume you know how I'll vote.


I don't care that she votes pro-gun when she's voting pro-strip-me-and-everyone-else-of-their-liberties to tow her party line the other 90% of the time. Noem is unknown at this point and I'll bet the farm on her over what we have now due to Herseth's record after maobama. Screw the single-interest stance...I'm done with it.
cletussd  [Member]
10/5/2010 11:13:52 PM
Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By cletussd:
He stops by my neighbors house when he's in Rapid.
Last time I talked to him I asked about the endorsment for Steffy.
He told me he tried to tell the higher-ups that there would be alot of backlash,but they did'nt seem to care.
I told him to passs on to his boss that if they keep up the BS they will be down more than just myself for people cancelling
their meberships.
He said he would let them know.


They must be under the impression that we're a bunch of fudds here or that there's not enough to really count. Regardless, I'm going to raise all of the hell I can about this and if they gaff me off, that's it.



I completely agree I have already sent NRA an email letting them know I will NOT be renewing my membership.
I highly dought it will do anygood.But if enough members tell then they've had it with the BS and drop their membership,Maybe just maybe
thy will get it.
cletussd  [Member]
10/5/2010 11:18:09 PM
Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By pokey074:
You're unhappy about the NRA endorsing Herseth despite the fact that she overwhelmingly votes pro gun?

Don't assume you know how I'll vote.


I don't care that she votes pro-gun when she's voting pro-strip-me-and-everyone-else-of-their-liberties to tow her party line the other 90% of the time. Noem is unknown at this point and I'll bet the farm on her over what we have now due to Herseth's record after maobama. Screw the single-interest stance...I'm done with it.


I agree Noem is a shot in the dark.But she claims she wont vote with or for Comrad Pelotski.
That right there is enough for her to get my vote.
pokey074  [Member]
10/6/2010 12:36:02 AM
Please explain what issues Herseth has voted on to strip away our rights. She voted against the bloated "Obamacare" bill. She's pro-gun and has demonstrated a dedication towards our veterans. I'm neither a Democrat, nor necessarily a Herseth supporter, but I fail to see the supposed heinous injustices she's committed.

Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By pokey074:
You're unhappy about the NRA endorsing Herseth despite the fact that she overwhelmingly votes pro gun?

Don't assume you know how I'll vote.


I don't care that she votes pro-gun when she's voting pro-strip-me-and-everyone-else-of-their-liberties to tow her party line the other 90% of the time. Noem is unknown at this point and I'll bet the farm on her over what we have now due to Herseth's record after maobama. Screw the single-interest stance...I'm done with it.


Surly  [Member]
10/6/2010 9:27:23 PM
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Please explain what issues Herseth has voted on to strip away our rights. She voted against the bloated "Obamacare" bill. She's pro-gun and has demonstrated a dedication towards our veterans. I'm neither a Democrat, nor necessarily a Herseth supporter, but I fail to see the supposed heinous injustices she's committed.


Here you go, slick...do your own homework if you really want to know. http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=48367

A NO vote to repeal maobamacare is a YES vote for maobamacare. She won't state directly that she will or won't vote to repeal it which means she'll wait for her party to tell her how to vote when the time comes. She also claims there are some good things in the bill which is a bunch of bullshit.

pokey074  [Member]
10/7/2010 12:55:54 AM
That's the website I went to to check out her voting record. I'm still failing to see how she's voting away our rights.

Originally Posted By Surly:
Originally Posted By pokey074:
Please explain what issues Herseth has voted on to strip away our rights. She voted against the bloated "Obamacare" bill. She's pro-gun and has demonstrated a dedication towards our veterans. I'm neither a Democrat, nor necessarily a Herseth supporter, but I fail to see the supposed heinous injustices she's committed.


Here you go, slick...do your own homework if you really want to know. http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=48367

A NO vote to repeal maobamacare is a YES vote for maobamacare. She won't state directly that she will or won't vote to repeal it which means she'll wait for her party to tell her how to vote when the time comes. She also claims there are some good things in the bill which is a bunch of bullshit.



Surly  [Member]
10/7/2010 9:20:05 AM
Originally Posted By pokey074:
That's the website I went to to check out her voting record. I'm still failing to see how she's voting away our rights.


I'm not going to give you a lesson in English either. My Noem vote will counter your Herseth vote and that's that. Looks like there are more Noem voters to counter the commie insurgency as well.
snoman  [Member]
10/7/2010 8:50:31 PM
The reason this wanna be wouldn't be getting my vote is the fact that her vote on Bam-Bam's medical takeover act was clearly a throw away vote. Should it come to a tighter vote the next time around and she's in that seat, I guaran-damn-tee you she'd vote for that crap in a New Yawk minute.
MrM4  [Member]
10/7/2010 9:16:37 PM
Personally i think she is in the pocket of the higher ups of the Dem party, and i think she is hoping to make a life in washington. She wont be getting my vote. And the NRA already has stoped getting my money.
luv_the_huskers  [Team Member]
10/11/2010 11:18:41 PM
I had occasion to visit with Noem at length at the Central States Fair. One point I did inquire about with her was her view on the 2nd Amendment and the RTKBA. She assured me, without knowing my stance, that she is most decidely pro 2A. Granted just my asking probably tipped my hand, but I was left with the impression that her stance is more than political rhetoric. We discussed a variety of issues, both by my prodding and hers. Let me tell you, my impression is one of pro 2A, pro rancher, and anti Obama. She has my vote.

ETA: spelling
MrM4  [Member]
10/12/2010 12:01:58 AM
Originally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
I had occasion to visit with Noem at length at the Central States Fair. One point I did inquire about with her was her view on the 2nd Amendment and the RTKBA. She assured me, without knowing my stance, that she is most decidely pro 2A. Granted just my asking probably tipped my hand, but I was left with the impression that her stance is more than political rhetoric. We discussed a variety of issues, both by my prodding and hers. Let me tell you, my impression is one of pro 2A, pro rancher, and anti Obama. She has my vote.

ETA: spelling



These are 3 thing that i put alot of value in as well. She has my vote as well.
Surly  [Member]
10/13/2010 8:48:41 PM
I think she has a lot of our votes.
Tommytwoguns  [Team Member]
10/21/2010 8:17:16 AM
I looked thru the Rifleman today. They have the election section in it this month. Both Herseth and Noem have A ratings from the NRA. It is their policy to always endorse incumbents over newcomers if the incumbent has a good rating.

I think that anyone who does a little research will see that Noem has a good rating from the NRA. Even a little more research will show that Herseth isn't really a "blue dog" democrat. She is just a democrat. Like all the other democrats. And most of the Republicans.
Surly  [Member]
10/22/2010 10:29:44 PM
Originally Posted By Tommytwoguns:
I looked thru the Rifleman today. They have the election section in it this month. Both Herseth and Noem have A ratings from the NRA. It is their policy to always endorse incumbents over newcomers if the incumbent has a good rating.

I think that anyone who does a little research will see that Noem has a good rating from the NRA. Even a little more research will show that Herseth isn't really a "blue dog" democrat. She is just a democrat. Like all the other democrats. And most of the Republicans.


Now it's my policy to vote the bums out. The NRA can kiss my ass...I'll never give them a penny again over this bullshit.
SoDakShooter  [Member]
10/25/2010 1:56:09 PM
Kristi Noem was at our Friends of the NRA banquet in Watertown. She sponsored a table and was active in the auction. It appears she is very pro-gun and will get my vote.

The NRA is a single issue organization. It would be detrimental to the foundation of their organization to put other politics into it. I will still support them because it is all we have. I don't necessarily agree with all of their nominations but I certainly understand most of them.
Surly  [Member]
10/25/2010 8:16:19 PM
Originally Posted By SoDakShooter:
Kristi Noem was at our Friends of the NRA banquet in Watertown. She sponsored a table and was active in the auction. It appears she is very pro-gun and will get my vote.

The NRA is a single issue organization. It would be detrimental to the foundation of their organization to put other politics into it. I will still support them because it is all we have. I don't necessarily agree with all of their nominations but I certainly understand most of them.


JPFO will be getting my cash from here on out. They're a no BS single issue that's really focused on freedom and not political hopefuls that are wolves in sheep's clothing.
MrM4  [Member]
11/3/2010 1:34:02 AM
I'm more then happy to see the Bitch kicked to curb.
Surly  [Member]
11/3/2010 8:21:37 PM
Originally Posted By MrM4:
I'm more then happy to see the Bitch kicked to curb.


Damn right! Despite all of the voter fraud on the rez and the third party dork that's a little premature for this race...the good prevailed. The easy shit's over with and the hard work begins in January.
MrM4  [Member]
11/3/2010 9:30:55 PM
Now we have all had alittle time to be happy and say FU to the DEMs, but in a few months we will find out if we just changed the names and face of evil. Washington is still going to be business as usual if these people are corrupted by the sitter sens. and reps. whom where not up for election this time.
Danmotron  [Member]
11/4/2010 5:21:27 AM
All of the reps were up for election.