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coonman  [Member]
2/15/2012 9:18:26 AM
i am interviewing for job in MI this week. what gun laws do i need to know ? i will not get a right to carry permit for a while. just need to know some of these basic laws.

1. to transport SHOTGUN OR RIFLE in pickup truck does gun need to be in a locked case or can gun be in a leather zip up case ?

2. to transport a pistol in pickup truck does pistol need to be locked in a hard case or can i put pistol in a zip up leather gun case ?

3. any rules / laws transporting ammo in pick up truck ?

4. do you need some kind of registration card to own a firearm ? like ILL were you need a card with picture on it from state that says you can own a gun and by ammo at the store ?

5. any other special laws i should be aware of ?

thanks. marty

THOLL223  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 3:16:13 PM

Originally Posted By coonman:
i am interviewing for job in MI this week. what gun laws do i need to know ? i will not get a right to carry permit for a while. just need to know some of these basic laws.

1. to transport SHOTGUN OR RIFLE in pickup truck does gun need to be in a locked case or can gun be in a leather zip up case ?

2. to transport a pistol in pickup truck does pistol need to be locked in a hard case or can i put pistol in a zip up leather gun case ?

3. any rules / laws transporting ammo in pick up truck ?

4. do you need some kind of registration card to own a firearm ? like ILL were you need a card with picture on it from state that says you can own a gun and by ammo at the store ?

5. any other special laws i should be aware of ?

thanks. marty


There is no distinction on kind of case required. Should be in a compartment separate from the passenger compartment (ie the trunk) Ammo should be separate from guns.

No ownership card needed but Handguns must be registered with the local law enforcement (if you are a resident) Technically, you can run into trouble transporting firearms in MI unless you are going somewhere (hunt, range etc) without a Concealed Pistol License. With one you can carry a loaded pistol in your vehicle. You can not have any long guns loaded in your vehicle. Every Michigan gun owner should really have a CPL.

More info can be found here: http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654––-,00.html
coctailer  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 8:49:43 PM
I just came in here to start a new thread.
Mind if I "piggy-Back" on yours?

I tried reading the legalese in the sticky.....my questions are dumbed down.(because I'm dumb)

Which NFA items are legal for civvies?........besides obvously silencers. CONGRATS!!!
MG?
AOW?
Destructive Device?
I'm assuming SBR and SBS are no-go?


If a person moves to MI, and currently owns several handguns, do they need to take them in for registration? (There used to be a "Green Card" when I lived there)
THOLL223  [Team Member]
2/15/2012 11:47:39 PM

Originally Posted By coctailer:
I just came in here to start a new thread.
Mind if I "piggy-Back" on yours?

I tried reading the legalese in the sticky.....my questions are dumbed down.(because I'm dumb)

Which NFA items are legal for civvies?........besides obvously silencers. CONGRATS!!!
MG?
AOW?
Destructive Device?
I'm assuming SBR and SBS are no-go?


If a person moves to MI, and currently owns several handguns, do they need to take them in for registration? (There used to be a "Green Card" when I lived there)

NFA: Suppressors, MG, AOW, don't think DD's not sure. No SBR or SBS

Yes if you move to MI with handguns you must "register" them. All you have to do is fill out the appropriate form and mail them into the local Popo. You no longer have to actually take them into the station.


tutone  [Member]
2/17/2012 2:28:34 PM
I know some will flame me for this but...

You may not have to register your handguns that you own when you move to michigan. there was a thread on here within the last serveral months where sombody was in the same situation and somebody posted very recent legislation stating such. basically it said that residents aquiring handguns had to fill out and file the requisite forms and even clearified that if you already owned and possessed the handguns that the purchase permits did not need to be filed.

Non-state residents can't by handguns. handgun purchasers must file a purchase permit withthe state police within so many days of the transfer. if there is no transfer within the state then do you need to file the purchase permit? I believe that is what the post I'm refering to carified. it may not have been legislation that it sited it may have been an AG interpretation?

Go ahead, flame away but I know somebody with time to search this forum can find the thread that sites the legislation.

-T
watertower  [Member]
2/17/2012 4:08:14 PM
I really wish I would have left a pistol or two unregistered. Registering handguns was a major bummer when I moved back from Virginia.
coonman  [Member]
2/17/2012 5:10:40 PM
thanks for info. marty
STJ  [Team Member]
2/17/2012 6:45:37 PM
A long gun does NOT need to be separate from you

750.227d Transporting or possessing firearm in or upon motor vehicle or self-propelled vehicle designed for land travel; conditions; violation as misdemeanor; penalty.

Sec. 227d.

(1) Except as otherwise permitted by law, a person shall not transport or possess in or upon a motor vehicle or any self-propelled vehicle designed for land travel a firearm, other than a pistol, unless the firearm is unloaded and is 1 or more of the following:
(a) Taken down.
(b) Enclosed in a case.
(c) Carried in the trunk of the vehicle.
(d) Inaccessible from the interior of the vehicle.

As stated it only has to unloaded and meet ONE of the above criteria...So an AR can be taken down (spit in two) and sitting on the passenger seat.
MCDC  [Team Member]
2/19/2012 5:04:39 PM
Why The Fug would you want to move to here????

tutone  [Member]
2/21/2012 9:45:28 AM
Originally Posted By tutone:
I know some will flame me for this but...

You may not have to register your handguns that you own when you move to michigan. there was a thread on here within the last serveral months where sombody was in the same situation and somebody posted very recent legislation stating such. basically it said that residents aquiring handguns had to fill out and file the requisite forms and even clearified that if you already owned and possessed the handguns that the purchase permits did not need to be filed.

Non-state residents can't by handguns. handgun purchasers must file a purchase permit withthe state police within so many days of the transfer. if there is no transfer within the state then do you need to file the purchase permit? I believe that is what the post I'm refering to carified. it may not have been legislation that it sited it may have been an AG interpretation?

Go ahead, flame away but I know somebody with time to search this forum can find the thread that sites the legislation.

-T

Does anybody recall this thread?
S_A_C  [Member]
2/21/2012 7:18:41 PM
Originally Posted By coonman:
i am interviewing for job in MI this week. what gun laws do i need to know ? i will not get a right to carry permit for a while. just need to know some of these basic laws.

1. to transport SHOTGUN OR RIFLE in pickup truck does gun need to be in a locked case or can gun be in a leather zip up case ? Zip up is fine.

2. to transport a pistol in pickup truck does pistol need to be locked in a hard case or can i put pistol in a zip up leather gun case ? Zip up is fine.

3. any rules / laws transporting ammo in pick up truck ? No, just don't have it loaded in a weapon.

4. do you need some kind of registration card to own a firearm ? like ILL were you need a card with picture on it from state that says you can own a gun and by ammo at the store ? No

5. any other special laws i should be aware of ? No SBR's, or SBS's unless they are C&R, a Purchase Permit permit is required to buy a Handgun unless you have a CPL, Handguns must be registered including any you bring with you, Rifles, or Shotguns that are less than 30 inches in overall length but more than 26 inches in overall length are a Handgun under Michigan Law, and are subject to purchase permits, and registration, under 26 inches in overall length is an SBR, or SBS under Michigan Law, length is measured with any folding, or collapsible stocks folded, or collapsed, unless it is non functional like that, Airguns over .177 caliber, or with Rifled Barrels are considered Firearms, so if you have an air handgun it is subject to the same purchase permit, registration, carry, and transport restrictions as a real Handgun, but this does not include paintball guns, or Airsoft.

thanks. marty



S_A_C  [Member]
2/21/2012 7:20:55 PM
Originally Posted By THOLL223:

Originally Posted By coonman:
i am interviewing for job in MI this week. what gun laws do i need to know ? i will not get a right to carry permit for a while. just need to know some of these basic laws.

1. to transport SHOTGUN OR RIFLE in pickup truck does gun need to be in a locked case or can gun be in a leather zip up case ?

2. to transport a pistol in pickup truck does pistol need to be locked in a hard case or can i put pistol in a zip up leather gun case ?

3. any rules / laws transporting ammo in pick up truck ?

4. do you need some kind of registration card to own a firearm ? like ILL were you need a card with picture on it from state that says you can own a gun and by ammo at the store ?

5. any other special laws i should be aware of ?

thanks. marty


There is no distinction on kind of case required. Should be in a compartment separate from the passenger compartment (ie the trunk) Ammo should be separate from guns.

No ownership card needed but Handguns must be registered with the local law enforcement (if you are a resident) Technically, you can run into trouble transporting firearms in MI unless you are going somewhere (hunt, range etc) without a Concealed Pistol License. With one you can carry a loaded pistol in your vehicle. You can not have any long guns loaded in your vehicle. Every Michigan gun owner should really have a CPL.

More info can be found here: http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654––-,00.html


Actually you do not need a purpose for carrying an unloaded rifle, or shotgun, any lawful purpose works including personal protection.
S_A_C  [Member]
2/21/2012 7:22:49 PM
Originally Posted By coctailer:
I just came in here to start a new thread.
Mind if I "piggy-Back" on yours?

I tried reading the legalese in the sticky.....my questions are dumbed down.(because I'm dumb)

Which NFA items are legal for civvies?........besides obvously silencers. CONGRATS!!!
MG?
AOW?
Destructive Device?
I'm assuming SBR and SBS are no-go?


If a person moves to MI, and currently owns several handguns, do they need to take them in for registration? (There used to be a "Green Card" when I lived there)


All NFA is fine, but SBR's, and SBS's must be C&R. Handguns still are registered, but you no longer need to take them in.
coctailer  [Team Member]
2/21/2012 10:35:45 PM
Originally Posted By S_A_C:
Originally Posted By coctailer:
I just came in here to start a new thread.
Mind if I "piggy-Back" on yours?

I tried reading the legalese in the sticky.....my questions are dumbed down.(because I'm dumb)

Which NFA items are legal for civvies?........besides obvously silencers. CONGRATS!!!
MG?
AOW?
Destructive Device?
I'm assuming SBR and SBS are no-go?


If a person moves to MI, and currently owns several handguns, do they need to take them in for registration? (There used to be a "Green Card" when I lived there)


All NFA is fine, but SBR's, and SBS's must be C&R. Handguns still are registered, but you no longer need to take them in.


Cool.
Seems so simple when put that way.
dlm37015  [Member]
3/3/2012 10:55:47 PM
i dont think i would want to live there