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 Hawaii Drivers License: Can I Buy A Gun In Oregon?
w153r  [Member]
11/13/2008 6:00:08 PM
My friend is here going to school (21 no felonies), and he is from Hawaii, he doesn't want to change his address cause he's bouncing around alot each year... So my question is, can he buy a gun in Oregon only having a valid Hawaii license?

TIA!
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elcid11  [Member]
11/13/2008 6:07:56 PM
He Cannot buy a handgun.

Hawkeye15  [Member]
11/13/2008 6:46:29 PM
Really? So someone from TX cannot buy a pistol from OR?? I didn't know you had to be a resident to buy a pistol... Thats wierd..
Chizilds  [Member]
11/13/2008 6:57:39 PM
I went up to Washington to buy a handgun that sportsmans was out of here.... no dice.... Long guns and shot guns were fine, but no handguns.
aquariumjunky  [Member]
11/13/2008 7:00:31 PM
Could he buy it have it transferred to Hawaii do the background and then have it transferred back or something like that so he bought it in his home state?
lizardman_u  [Member]
11/13/2008 7:15:08 PM
If he were in the millitary and stationed in Oregon he would have dual residency (Oregon and Hawaii) and therefore would be legal in purchasing a handgun. He would use the Info from his Hawaii drivers license, a copy of his orders, and a few months of utilities bills to prove his residency.

If he is simply a student he may or may not have dual residency based on how long he has lived in this state and whether college students are afforded the same rules as someone living out of their state on millitary orders.

Case in point I was an Oregon resident with driver's license, but was stationed in Oak Harbor Washington when I turned 21. I applied for and recieved my Washington state CCW and purchased my first pistol there in the state of Washington in a gun shop in Anacortes (North of Seattle, may have spelled the name of the town incorrectly).

But this was back in 1991.

Dave
themuffinman  [Member]
11/13/2008 8:18:20 PM
I had to call my dealer the other day with this same question. He told me that an out of state resident can buy rifles and shotguns only. No handguns.
Hawaiianone  [Member]
11/13/2008 8:25:58 PM
If he is living here going to school, he should be able to get a State ID. Not everyone drives a car and has a drivers license. He should be able to purchace the gun with the State ID.
ma96782  [Team Member]
11/13/2008 9:05:45 PM
Say the buyer was a non-FFL Hawaii resident that wanted go to on vacation on the Mainland to do some shopping........

FIRST.........LOCAL LAWS VARY.

By FEDERAL LAW........it's NOT a cash and carry deal for a Hawaii resident (non-FFL Dealer) making a handgun purchase in a foreign state from an FFL Dealer. You can buy it. But, for the actual transfer, you'll need to make arrangements with a Hawaii FFL Dealer to receive the handgun from the seller Dealer.

And, as a (non-FFL) Hawaii resident you could make a cash and carry purchase of a rifle or shotgun in a foreign state from an FFL Dealer while on vacation. NOTE: I said, it could happen.

But, most times, it's just too much of a problem for the selling FFL Dealer to know all of the Hawaii Gun Laws and to be sure that you have complied with all of them. So usually, the selling FFL Dealer will only make the actual transfer to another FFL Dealer in Hawaii.

FROM THE ATF SITE.

(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]
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For a "private firearm transfer" (gift, inheritance or sale) between a non-FFL Hawaii resident (buyer) and a non-FFL resident of another state (seller)........the seller will need to transfer the firearm to an FFL Dealer in Hawaii.

(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]
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In all the cases involving your FFL Dealer in Hawaii, you can expect to be paying for the shipping to Hawaii and your FFL's fee. Once you get back to Hawaii, you pick up your firearm from the Hawaii FFL Dealer. The Hawaii FFL Dealer will be responsible to make sure that you comply with all of Hawaii's Laws and have filled out form #4473, before you take actual possession.

Don't forget about Hawaii's registration laws. Bans on hi-cap magazines and the dreaded Assault Pistol ban.



Aloha, Mark

PS..........most states have laws, about which state your driver's lic. should be issued by and how long you have to comply.

Kamaina Discounts are one thing. But, "residency" could get you (or your friend) a cheaper tuition.

Choose.
aga7040  [Team Member]
11/13/2008 9:59:21 PM
Originally Posted By Hawaiianone:
If he is living here going to school, he should be able to get a State ID. Not everyone drives a car and has a drivers license. He should be able to purchace the gun with the State ID.


Since we're talking about Hawai'i, anyone from there, was once stationed there, both, or???

w153r  [Member]
11/13/2008 10:27:30 PM
Darn, thanks for the responses... I was hoping the "Guy from X goes on Vacation in Y...." had some bearing, but I guess only with shotguns and long rifles... interesting! I was looking to take him to a certain gun dealer in Gresham to get his first pistol... darn! He is dead-set on a Glock17.

Maccrage  [Team Member]
11/14/2008 12:46:57 PM
Originally Posted By aga7040:
Originally Posted By Hawaiianone:
If he is living here going to school, he should be able to get a State ID. Not everyone drives a car and has a drivers license. He should be able to purchace the gun with the State ID.


Since we're talking about Hawai'i, anyone from there, was once stationed there, both, or???


I was stationed there for 4 years.

2hawk  [Team Member]
11/14/2008 2:50:28 PM
Grew up there, '63-'97. Miss the weather, the people... not the economy, prices.

Hawaii No Ka Oi, but Oregon's pretty damn cool
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