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 Transporting across state lines
762bodydropper  [Team Member]
6/20/2007 6:47:58 PM EST
I am leaving Friday morning for Dallas TX. We are driving, i have done the research and each state we will enter accepts our Firearms license. And Pretty much have the same laws as we do as far as the go-no go places. What I dont understand is the federal law thing about transporting across state lines, as long as the gun is unloaded in a compartments where the driver cant reach it.
WTF does that mean?

Do I need to stop before I cross each line, unload my gun and put it in the trunk, cross the border, stop and load up and put it back on?
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GeorgiaBII  [Member]
6/20/2007 7:14:17 PM EST
I wouldn't... The line is razor thin so I don't see how you could violate that...
saj195  [Member]
6/20/2007 7:49:39 PM EST
under the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution, the states you travel through must respect the law of your state of origin until you reach your trip's destination state. (don't CC if you make any tourist detours. only at gas/food stops on the highway would seem permissible.)

then, you must obey the law of the destination state.

there may be something on packing.org, IIRC.

note that the FedLaw is to allow the transportation (where oppressive states may have restrictions that hamper the transportation of legal property), not to restrict it.

just use your head. and always remember that while you may beat the rap, you may have to take the ride.


Tamron  [Member]
6/21/2007 4:26:39 AM EST
Maybe I'm just a lucky guy, but, in the several decades of my adult life, I've never just been pulled over and had my car searched for firearms. I wouldn't worry too much, since you're not going through any of the "sissy" states.
Muddy  [Member]
6/21/2007 6:12:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By saj195:
under the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution, the states you travel through must respect the law of your state of origin until you reach your trip's destination state. (don't CC if you make any tourist detours. only at gas/food stops on the highway would seem permissible.)


If only this was the case for CCW permits...but it's not.

Aside from either reciprocol agreements amongst the states or provisions in a specific state's concealed carry law to honour another state's permits the only protections you have for lawful transport in Federal law are those in the Firearm Owner's Protection Act:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > § 926A Prev | Next

§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

MAT-49  [Member]
6/21/2007 6:17:47 AM EST
Drive safe. It's a long haul.

You could put a gun on one bag and mags on the other.
saj195  [Member]
6/21/2007 7:21:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Muddy:
If only this was the case for CCW permits...but it's not.

Aside from either reciprocol agreements amongst the states or provisions in a specific state's concealed carry law to honour another state's permits the only protections you have for lawful transport in Federal law are those in the Firearm Owner's Protection Act:

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > § 926A Prev | Next

§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.



i thought i mentioned this (i did) and pointed out that it is not a restriction, but an authorization by the FedGovt.
762bodydropper  [Team Member]
6/21/2007 12:09:59 PM EST
I have laredy researched the gun laws of alabama, missississippippissi, Louisanna,and texas, and they are all pretty much the same as ours. And the federal that you pasted, is the exact law that is confusing me. But I think I did find some clarification.

That federal law is just to allow me to transport my pistol through non carry states, without goin to jail. But before I enter the state, I have to unload, and place the pistola in the trunk.

As far as just getting pulled over just for having a pistol. Thats not what I am worried about. Texas has this law.
If you are asked by a law enforcement officer to show ID (as in a traffic stop), you are REQUIRED to volunteer that fact you are armed by showing your CHL along with driver's license.

I guess if I dont drive they have no reason to ask. But the rest of states, I just have to have my liscense if I am carrying. But I dont have to tell, unless they ask.

Also does anyone know what the penalty is for not having your license on you when your carrying.
saj195  [Member]
6/21/2007 7:22:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By 762bodydropper:
Also does anyone know what the penalty is for not having your license on you when your carrying.


probably misdemeanor in all your states. you should be able to check that pretty quickly.

the real world penalty is you go to jail until you get bonded out, your firearm is thrown into the property control unit as Evidence (not Property, which is easy to get out), and you'll have to make your court date the next business day morning to answer for it, probably without having your license to prove your innocence...

why do you ask?


762bodydropper  [Team Member]
6/23/2007 7:26:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By saj195:

Originally Posted By 762bodydropper:
Also does anyone know what the penalty is for not having your license on you when your carrying.


probably misdemeanor in all your states. you should be able to check that pretty quickly.

the real world penalty is you go to jail until you get bonded out, your firearm is thrown into the property control unit as Evidence (not Property, which is easy to get out), and you'll have to make your court date the next business day morning to answer for it, probably without having your license to prove your innocence...

why do you ask?




Sorry it took so0 long to get bakc here, I drove to new orleans friday, then to dallas TX saturdey morning. I have soe pics of NO I will post when I get back home. Doesnt look like much has changed since the floods.

The reason I ask, is I was in the mall the other day and realized, as I walked by a sheriff, that i had my gun, and my wallet was in the truck. And then reading on packing.org, I saw that one of the states gives a 25 dollar fine for the first offense, then ont he second offense it becomes a misdemener, then escelates from there. So I was just wondering what the penalty was in the GA....

GeorgiaBII  [Member]
6/23/2007 8:07:08 PM EST
I went to NO about 3-4 months after katrina. What a dump it was. While I was there the conference center electrical caught on fire and the floor started to flood again.


I wasn't impressed with the place let me tell you.
762bodydropper  [Team Member]
6/24/2007 4:41:22 AM EST
Yeah, one of the tings I found amazing is that therre are people living in the houses, and they still have the clearing marks on them, also many of the houses still have the water line on them, Some of them the lines are just inches below the overhang for the roof.

I made the comment to the guy we stayed with,A long time friend, who is stationed there, he actually stsyed throught both hurricanes. To guard t he base. that "The storm really tore this place up" His reply "Na it was a shit hole before"

We went through some parts of town, the made me uncomfortable, and that takes alot. He said that the parts we went through were only the tip of the iceberg.
HighlandMac  [Member]
6/24/2007 12:42:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By 762bodydropper:
Yeah, one of the tings I found amazing is that therre are people living in the houses, and they still have the clearing marks on them, also many of the houses still have the water line on them, Some of them the lines are just inches below the overhang for the roof.

I made the comment to the guy we stayed with,A long time friend, who is stationed there, he actually stsyed throught both hurricanes. To guard t he base. that "The storm really tore this place up" His reply "Na it was a shit hole before"

We went through some parts of town, the made me uncomfortable, and that takes alot. He said that the parts we went through were only the tip of the iceberg.


I was down there for about 4 months right after Katrina. It was a shit hole before, during, and forever after the storm. Nothing will change in the big easy.

If you didnt get to see the lower 9th, and Chalmette you really missed some way over the top fucked up shit. Entire houses moved a couple hundred yard off their foundation and placed intact in the middle of the road. What a great time it was down there!


krountre  [Member]
6/29/2007 7:56:05 PM EST
I am in Texas returning from a trip to Colorado. I started to go to the visitors center at the Air Force Acadamy today and just as I was approaching the guard shack remembered my AR was in a case under the back seat. Hated to miss the visitors center, but I just didn't want to explain it to the guard.

I'm all for "don't ask, don't tell" in a traffic stop situation; but the best thing is not to put yourself in that situation. I'll stay close to the speed limit in order to carry protection.

With all the pronghorns on 87 in the NM plains today, it was tempting to pull out the AR and load one up in the back of the truck; but I figured I wouldn't get far.
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