Moving from New York to North Carolina

I am seriously considering escaping from the occupied territory of the People's Republic of New Yorkistan to North Carolina. I know that NC honors all pistol permits, so I am not too concerned with that piece as I will become a NC resident and eventually get the NC permit. However, what about my rifles? I have numerous AK variants, some pre ban, some post ban, FALs, HK rifles, etc... I am assuming if they are legal in NYS then they will be legal in NC. But my question is what do I need to do in order to have the firearms as a NC resident? Is this the same process for hand guns as well?

I guess my question is - Do I need to do anything with my firearms when becoming a resident?

Ammo and a range to shoot at. Come on down.

Moving to Raleigh when I get back from Afghanistan. Where are you located kind sir?

Yeah, pretty much just load them up, drive on down, unload them into your residence, and go shooting as time allows. Durham County has handgun registration (though there seems to be some question whether it is actually enforced), but I wouldn't suggest you live in Durham County anyway. That is the only form of registration of firearms in NC other than federal registration for NFA items (which are also legal here). You have to have a handgun purchase permit to buy a handgun, but not to own one. A NC CHP exempts you from the purchase permit requirement (and the call-in check on long guns). All in all our laws are not so bad, with the exception of a lot of off-limits places for carry. We are slowly working on that.

What area are you moving to?

Rifles are easier and of less hassle than pistols. We do have laws about weapons secured so a child/children can't easily access them. Mecklenburg county used to give out free gun locks with pistol permits and/or if you walked in and asked within reason of course, unsure if they or others still do.

The rifles will be fine, NC doesn't have any stupid capacity magazine limits, unless hunting which has it own set of rules. I'm not a hunter, so I can answer those questions. If there are any NFA weapons in that collection, then if it varies by area for the Chief LEO sign off.

The pistols, you may need to do a transfer through an ffl (the first question will give us a guide on who to recommend for cheap transfers and discounts if multiples for your area) to yourself for bringing them in legally. But you should get to save on that stupid shipping fee

Although if you are the first owner(does NY make you register them?) and no hits(stolen, wanted for evidence, ect) come back as clean most LEO down here are pretty laid back. As in please do not reload the weapon until I'm gone. My area has had some bad officers but both the public and good LEO have helped encourage them to find new careers...You may run into their work at our DMV getting plates for your car(s). So as long as you're honest and open about the firearm with them, they'll treat youwith respect and courtesy. I have had numerous dealings with LEO ( I'm what's called an "urban pioneer", had to make a lot of calls to clean up my section...), never had an issue and rural officers are even friendlier.

Ranges can be issue for price and access(membership & driving distances). Although there's lots of rural land and friendly folk here who don't mind an extra partner. Fire ants and yellow jackets are great for zeroing that scope on
Water moccasins(aka cotton mouth), Timber rattlesnakes and copperheads are our snakes to watch out for. There are some flat areas, so please make sure we(tinw) don't have an accident like what happened back in the 1980's (note the anti-gun description of an AK as high powered, a typical antigun exaggeration in the media,local news isn't gun friendly here) "Stray bullet blamed in girl's death police question man who fired at target range" by David Perlmutt and Gary L. Wright, Staff Writers for local Charlotte paper
Police say a stray bullet, fired from a high-powered rifle a half-mile away, apparently killed a 6-year-old York County girl Sunday in the Carowinds wave pool.Late Monday, police were questioning a Mecklenburg County man who said he was target practicing in a nearby clearing at the time of the shootings.Police confiscated a Russian-made, semi-automatic AK47 rifle.hey believe the killing of Michele Ann Sexton and wounding of 6-year-old Ahesha Rollins of Charlotte…Published on 1987-06-09, Page 1A, Charlotte Observer, (NC) .

This bullet went through woods, across a road,(2 or 4 lane) through rides frame work and a mig dual wooden roller coaster at that , dodging buildings, the employee parking lot of a large theme park, the fence through back area park operations , through patrons and into the wave pool for that unlucky connection, a difference the wave top or bottom ) might have changed the ending. There was way back before there were any of the major development in the area and one could assume a reasonable level of safe shooting out there. I think there was charges of talked and maybe went formal but ere dropped. Adding to it was the park splits the state line for North Carolina and South Carolina for whose jurisdiction? Carowinds makes a point of using that on the state line for certain laws like building a concert amphitheater on the North Carolina side for alcohol sales for concerts on sunday (legal in nc ,illegal in SC on alcohol sales on Sunday)... Its an ugly black eye shooters have and there wasn't much to real blame for majority error here, mostly that bullet should never have made that flight. There were a lot of newspaper articles about it on line.Shooting it that area still has some extra caution.

Depending on the area you'll find a gun shows that are with reasonable driving distance about every month(30-45 days). Large cities usually have two promoters with one show being bigger and better than the other.



Over all, once you learn to drink sweat tea and eat the right type of barbecue, you'll like it. Just get ready for the massive news Blizzard (insert year) for 1-2 inches of snow and the bread and milk shortages that follow) .In defense most people here can't drive in snow and/or ice we get so little, once out/down from the piedmont. This link may also be of help "North Carolina by city forum guide for help about schools, areas,. is this a fair market price kinda options"

I will be moving to Raleigh.

I will be good with my NYS permit temporarily right? Once I get the NC carry permit I'll be able to transfer it to my self, correct? They are all registered in NYS but if NC honors all pistol permits I don't see this as an issue? Am I right?

You don't have to register or transfer anything. If I understand what you're saying, it sounds like your NY permit is specific to your pistol(s)?

In NC your permit is not tied to any one pistol.

And your NY permit becomes invalid the minute you move to NC since you don't live in NY anymore. And you don't need it to own pistols here.

If you have a NY permit that allows concealed carry, you can't conceal carry in NC on it as a resident of NC (its an NY resident permit). There's no grace period in the law so it basically comes down to when you become a resident (there's obviously a gray area where for a while you aren't either).

I've seen civilians (non-military) live here for 2-5 years and claim not to be residents (out-of-state plates, DL, etc) while buying a house, having a job, etc. When it falls apart, it falls apart!

So my NYS permit will be good in NC until I establish permanent residency and at that point I need to obtain a NC ccw in order to carry concealed?

Yep, don't monkey around with the residency/ permit deal.

So it will be legal for me to own the handguns but I just can't carry until I become a legal resident and get the NC ccw. Please forgive me on this. Living in a free state is going to be a new thing for me.

Yes.

Are you military? If not, then immediately (as soon as you have an address): get an NC driver's license (http://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/driver/license/) and register your car (get NC plates). Then take the NC CCW course and go down to your local sheriff's office, get the forms, fill them out and apply. http://www.ehow.com/how_2061101_get-permit-carry-concealed-weapon.html

If you are military and live off base, you just have to get an NC driver's license and take the course (the "3 state rule" is in effect and your tags can be either from the state you were last stationed in, your state of permanent residency, or NC - for firearms you are basically an NC resident - as soon as you sign in - and a resident of your home state, but having an NC driver's license with an NC address on it makes it sooo much easier to buy guns and everything else and you have to have it to get your CHP).

If you are military and live on base, the installation commander may have stupid gun rules about buying guns. The FFLs aren't bound by them but you are. Beyond that, you can't CCW on a military installation.

With an address and a NC DL, you are basically a "legal resident" except for instate college tuition. Also, don't forget to register to vote 30 days after you get here!

We used o make Yankees live in Cary (Concentration Area for Relocated Yankees) for 7 years and then apply for naturalization, but since the "Andy Griffith" progressive Demonrats took over everywhere and turned the entire state into "stealth Yankeeland" we don't do that any more.

Got it. I am in the reserves (CA) so I think that military rule goes out the window right ? Also is there a waiver for the course since I am military and can prove I'm qualified with handguns?

Believe me, there is a reason I am leaving the north east at 26. I can't stand the north east. I can't stand NY... I love the south, especially NC.

Yes, the Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act only applies when you are on active duty.

No, no waiver.

As I understand it, New York says that your pistol permit becomes invalid as soon as you move out of New York, so it wouldn't be valid for concealed carry in North Carolina not because of NC but because NY says it isn't good anymore. However, there is nothing in NC law that says you have to carry on a NC permit if you are a NC resident. So, the solution here would be to apply for a non-resident permit from a state that issues to non-residents. Virginia, Florida, and New Hampshire all issue non-resident permits completely through the mail. Then you can carry on your non-resident permit in NC until you can get residency established, take the NC CHP class, and apply for your NC permit. Just make sure the non-resident permit is issued with your NC address on it, or you change the address with the issuing authority to your NC address as soon as you know what it is.

Since you are moving to Wake County you may be required to live in Cary rather than Raleigh, sorry.

No, just bring them down and start shooting.

Can not wait to get out of New Yorkistan.

So, I could essentially carry with an AZ non-resident permit while I am a NC resident and during the period of time before I get my NC permit.

Yes, so long as the permit is still valid. NC is kind of funny about the permits having the correct address on them (though the computerized address being correct/the same on your license would likely be fine, the law about changing one's address technically only applies to NC issued permits, but rather than having it possibly being an issue, it is easier just to make sure it is changed). As of Dec. 1st NC now honors all other states' permits, so where ever you have one from is fine.

And you can also open carry without a CCW- in most towns that is.

IIRC Chapel Hill and Cary prohibit open carry, those are the only two in the Raleigh area that I know of. I am sure Chapel Hill does, I have read the text, but not so sure about Cary.

There are lots of ranges near Wake County. You should look at Wake County Gun range, its pretty nice and has a lot of bays for both rifles and pistols.

There are gun shows at the NC State Fair Grounds about every 2 months, so you will have now problem feeding your addiction.

I'd like to know where they get the authority to do that since the NCSC in State v. Dawson ruled that we have a rigth to carry and NCGS 14-409.40 titled (Statewide Uniformity of Local Regulation) doesn't allow them to do that either.

I can't say for sure, Chapel Hill isn't my jurisdiction, but I think 14-409.40 didn't apply to already passed ordinances that didn't reference concealed carry. So, it was (is?) legal to prohibit open carry, but not concealed carry. At any rate, Chapel Hill's ordinance prohibits open carry of handguns by size, so it doesn't actually apply to all handguns. Some of the large ones are exempt. So, for example, it would be illegal to open carry a J-frame but not an AR pistol. Go figure.

I could be wrong but I still think that the NC surpreme court case State v. Dawson which said "the carrying of a gun per se constitutes no offense. For any lawful purpose either of business or amusement the citizen is at perfect liberty to carry his gun." would make that law null and void

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